President Obama intends to "finish the job" in Afghanistan.

So now he just needs to tell us which one of the 'jobs' we're supposed to finish.

1 - Finding Bin Laden
2 - Destroying the Taliban
3 - Destroying Al Queda
4 - Stabilizing Afghanistan
5 - Creating a 'democracy'
6 - Measuring his dick size against Bush's

Or any of the other dozen of 'jobs' we've been told Afghanistan is supposed to be about.

With the dispatch of more troops to die for a hopeless cause in Afghanistan, the President has just committed Obamacide. His presidency is finished. What a tragic disappointment!

Not only will the United States be doomed to the misery of repeating its worse heinous act of the 20th century, but Barack Obama throws away. lives, treasure, reality, decency, and opportunity for what is probably an internecine political play that will not work...

...and god damn Dick Cheney's shit-filled soul to hell.

"The Senate leadership thinks the reconciliation process is far more trouble than it's worth."

Easy for those white millionaires who will never have to worry about health insurance.

Scumbags. And cowards. The Republicans never thought this way.

The relationship to India is important. India regards the US as the dumping ground for surplus techie drones. Most of these illegal aliens come here on H-1B and L-1 visas. Most of them wildly exaggerate on CV, faking credentials, lying about expertise. In addition, the credentials are poorly understood in the US. An Indian physician is not the same as a US physician - the Indian physician does not have the undergrad degree.

We need to get the H-1B and L-1 programs cancelled. We need the jobs. We have a 10% unemployment rate. We cannot continue any longer of being the employment location for the world. Our children, our unemployed, need the jobs. Not scabs from India.

I think what we need in Afghanistan is the definition of "job." What does it mean to "finish" the job? More important: what do the people of Afghanistan want, and who represents the people? As we can see with HCR in this country, the people and the representatives are not in agreement. How could we possibly know who represents the Afghan people?
Unfortunately, admitting a mistake and pulling out does not seem to be one of the items "on the table." Too bad...

Does finishing the job in Afghanistan mean that the oil companies can build their damn pipeline and not worry that someone is going to blow it up? Good luck with that.

Wow. 1 in 4 mortgages under water. Astonishing. I wonder if it had anything to do with people obsessing about cartoon Kenynesianism and failing to do shit to make banks write down their losses.

But the guy on TV said "Real estate values can never go down!" You do believe your TV don't you?

I'm surprised to see so little here about the Honduran crisis. For five months, Honduras has been under the rule of a coup which has brutally cracked down on protesters. Secretary Clinton and President Obama brokered an agreement that the golpistas proceeded to ignore, moving ahead with what looks to be a sham election, monitored by a "watchdog" that has previously been involved in efforts to overthrow other leftist Latin American presidents. At this point, the U.S. has gone against most of the hemisphere in promising to honor the results of this election next week. In short, it is a diplomatic fiasco right in our own hemisphere.

But as Alex Koppelman noted, if these early reports are accurate, they raise the prospect of what may have been a politically-motivated slaying: "There are always people who have some sort of paranoia about the federal government and the census, but things might be worse this time around. There's been a lot of talk on the right about the connection (always very tenuous, and now severed) between the census and ACORN, a group that's been conservatives' favorite bogeyman of late. And Rep. Michele Bachmann, R-Minn., has been spreading her own fears about the census, at one point even suggesting a link between the census and Japanese internment during World War II -- a frightening parallel for modern conspiracy theorists who fear that the government is setting up similar camps for them now."

Who's the paranoid conspiracy monger now, Stevie? No apology? Classless.

P.S. Since you apparently think O'Reilly was serious about Waters' role in Moyers' retirement, you're also a bit dim-witted.

THE KAGANS SPAWN YET ANOTHER ARMCHAIR GENERAL

In the latest edition of Why Is This Person On My TV ?, Fred Kagan's wife, Kimberly Kagan, was just on the ABC World News, celebrating in the gloriousness of sending more American troops to Afghanistan.

The Kagans just NAILED Iraq, after all.

POed Lib's is largely correct.

The problem though is not because of the Indian government, but due to the greed of the American corporate managers.

These scumbags are willing to sacrificing American jobs, quality of the products they sell, and the health of the Amaerical economy in the long run for their short term gains. The paid of Congress is only too glad to oblige.

Well, I see that others have adequately dealt with Obama's surge insanity, so I'll just comment on this:

Nearly one in four U.S. mortgages is under water (owner owes more than the home's value). That's astounding.

It's only astounding to those who have spent the last 10 months fluffing Obama and cherry-picking stats. For those of us who have been actually paying attention to the econ, it's quite in keeping with what we've known all along.

* Census worker Bill Sparkman's death has been ruled a suicide by Kentucky state police. -- Steve Benen

That suicide, for me, is harder to believe than that the insurers gave the cops 15-20% of the insurance money (depending on how large the policies were) and saved the rest. And why state police and not the FBI? He was working for the feds when died.

Just jamming: President Louis Dobbs yesterday met with European leaders ...

Still funny.

Is the right still worked up about those stolen CRU emails?

Yes, and so are the center and the left. George Monbiot, for example, feels betrayed, and he isn't even a climate change skeptic. He is calling for resignations.

President Obama intends to "finish the job" in Afghanistan.

What's more, the eventual American withdrawal will depend on progress in training the Afghan security forces, not on a fixed timetable.

POed Lib on November 24, 2009 at 6:20 PM

That's not true. the Indian immigrants are mostly highly trained and highly motivated. Without them our economy would be in even worse trouble than it is.

Here's what I want to know: Why can the Prime Minister of India can get a nice looking nehru jacket but I cannot find one in the US?

Breaking the neck of "bending the curve"

Was it Ezra that made that phrase hip geek speak? Or some other rad freakonomic pundit with a pulpit?

No matter. Or better: Whatever. That clip and paste phrase has now jumped the shark into the shallow end of the public meme pool. It is now "so everywhere" that it has become pseudo mathematically annoying in an exponential sort of way...

Ergo, I hereby declare "bending the curve" to be as passe as Condi's and Rummy's "viz a viz." Remember when that piece of DC verbiage was pasted into every other republican sentence? It was I seem to recall, viz a viz, a Cheney favorite too...

In short: It's way past time to start bending the fugging curve on "bending the curve."
Hereafter: Only the dumb cool kids are using it. Capiche?

Hi,
I like this article but..
Can someone tell me about Barack Obama..
I know that he is a serious candidate for '08, but I would like to know where he stands on the issues. I checked his site but nowhere can I find the info. i am looking for.
so please tell me...

but I would like to know where he stands on the issues.

Hopey-Changey

Matthew,

Is the right still worked up about those stolen CRU emails?

"Yes, and so are the center and the left. George Monbiot, for example, feels betrayed, and he isn't even a climate change skeptic."

And he isn't even a climatologist.

If I recall George Monbiot has made qualified comments considering the facts in the matter .
This is an example of the difference between having a conclusion , proceeding from that conclusion to the Elysian fields of cherries picked amongst the caveats and explanations . How remarkably different those "cherries" appear without the fog of disembling .

Oh give me a home where the robots don't roam
and the facts are good for more than one day
Where seldom is heard a more partisan word
Than I hope you and your family are well
Da da da da da ...

From Political Wire:

Quote of the day: "We did not have a terrorist attack on our country during President Bush's term."

-- Bush Press Secretary Dana Perino, in an interview on Fox News.

( Video at http://politicalwire.com/archives/2009/11/25/quote_of_the_day.html#032385a )

A prediction...as our paid for media continues to "report" on the sinking of the Obama administration, the leadership of our Congress will find fewer and fewer reasons (all based on their personal careers/fortunes) to be supportive of the policies Obama has tried to put forth (like health reform) and so will find much of the work necessary to bring relief in ANY form to the American people..."too much trouble to bother with"....While a previous poster is damning Cheney's soul to HELL (and I couldn't agree more) let's do the same for all who live with such impatience that they must have INSTANT GRATIFICATION and INSTANT CHANGE...after watching Bush and Company drive this country into the toilet!

The Bill Sparkman item should have been handled like the "stolen CRU emails" item, as in "Is the left still worked up about the death of Bill Sparkman?" with a link to the September 26, 2009 article "Bill Sparkman's Gruesome Death" and the report that Bill Sparkman killed himself.

Also, a note should have been added at the end of the September article. Just before the anti-free speech rants.

While clever, the current approach is deceitful.

exlibra,

Apparently you missed this sentence: "State police, working with the FBI, said at a press conference moments ago that Sparkman had recently taken out two life insurance policies that would not pay out for suicide."

The FBI doesn't have enough resources to waste them on left-wing fantasies.