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December 10, 2009

A COMMISSION WHOSE TIME HASN'T COME.... After weeks of chatter, Senate Budget Committee Chairman Kent Conrad (D-N.D.) and Senate Budget Committee Ranking Member Judd Gregg (R-N.H.) unveiled legislation to create a bipartisan "commission" on deficit reduction.

Their plan is to create a task force with 18 members -- eight congressional Democrats, eight congressional Republicans, the Treasury secretary, and another administration official. After the midterms, the commission would make recommendations to Congress -- a combination of raising revenue and curtailing spending -- which would need the support of 14 of the 18 members.

From there, Congress would have to vote on the package, up or down, without amendments, and be approved by 60% majorities in both chambers.

In other words, Conrad and Gregg have created a plan that's almost certain to fail. Jonathan Chait explained:

Let me get this straight. You have a commission proposing a package of highly unpopular legislative changes. And, in addition to having to surmount the 60-vote barrier in the Senate, which is nearly insurmountable for major legislation and which was avoided for both of the last two major deficit-reducing bills, it's also going to impose a new supermajority requirement in the House and a 78% threshold in the commission itself?

To say that this procedure "is designed to get results" shows a very odd understanding of American political institutions. Conrad and Gregg seem to think that instituting major reforms in the public interest is rare because the threshold for passing legislation is too low. Thus they've designed a process that creates new and higher supermajority requirements, on an issue where getting even 51% to sign on is probably impossible. And if that fails, maybe they'll conclude the process was too easy. Next time they could also require the commission members to create a cold fusion reactor or retrieve a magical ring from inside a volcano.

A variety of national progressive groups, including major labor unions, the NAACP, and the National Organization for Women, spoke out against the Conrad/Gregg idea, calling it "undemocratic," and likely to create "a hidden process aimed at eviscerating vital programs and productive investment."

I'm quite certain these groups are right, but I'm nearly as confident that it won't matter -- the result of the commission's work stands almost no chance of clearing its own hurdles.

To be sure, I understand where the proponents are coming from here. By mandating supermajorities at every stage of the process, Conrad and Gregg hope to create some kind of consensus. It's one big "grand bargain" -- some Republicans would be forced to accept tax increases they don't want, in exchange for the spending cuts they do want. For Dems, it would be vice versa. By requiring a bipartisan result, the intention is to create a credible result that would be subjected to less demagoguery.

For the record, I'd find the commission idea misguided whether it was based on feasible framework or not, but as it stands, Conrad/Gregg is largely pointless. Ezra concluded, "It's like trying to cure the flu by competing in a triathlon. You can respond to the breakdown of bipartisanship by making bipartisanship less necessary (say, by ending the supermajority requirement) or by trying to attack the roots of polarization. But this doesn't make any sense. If you're a deficit hawk, it's arguably worse than nothing, as it will make people think something is being done when nothing is actually happening."

Steve Benen 11:30 AM Permalink | Trackbacks | Comments (20)

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Maybe the intent is to make it look like something is happening when nothing actually is.

Posted by: Rob on December 10, 2009 at 11:33 AM | PERMALINK

Labor unions, the NAACP, and the National Organization for Women are against it. So of course democrat representatives and senators will be against it too.

Posted by: Al on December 10, 2009 at 11:38 AM | PERMALINK

it is an odious camel's nose, nonetheless. Mock it if we want...just like the odious Repugnant's "alternate weather," but keep watch.

Noting is safe in Washington DC...did you see Stupak in the NY Times yesterday? Like Palin in the WaPo? Nothing is safe.

Posted by: neill on December 10, 2009 at 11:52 AM | PERMALINK

Great. The recipe that f*cked up California now even more exacerbated at the national level.

Posted by: Eserwe on December 10, 2009 at 11:59 AM | PERMALINK

If you're a deficit hawk, it's arguably worse than nothing, as it will make people think something is being done when nothing is actually happening

Ah, but they're not deficit hawks, they're deficit fearmongers. If the deficit went away, they couldn't campaign on it anymore.

Posted by: j.e.b. on December 10, 2009 at 12:06 PM | PERMALINK

Clueless.

Posted by: beep52 on December 10, 2009 at 12:11 PM | PERMALINK

"It's like trying to cure the flu by competing in a triathlon."

No, it's like trying to cure a broken leg by jumping into a shark tank. High Broderism at its finest.

Morans.

Posted by: Racer X on December 10, 2009 at 12:20 PM | PERMALINK

More important---would someone please point out to me where any of this procedure is contained in the Constitution?

Posted by: Stuart Shiffman on December 10, 2009 at 12:23 PM | PERMALINK

With Democrats like Kent Conrad, who needs Republicans?

Jesus. I wish the Democrats had been this creative at obstructing the majority party when they weren't the majority party.

Posted by: kc on December 10, 2009 at 12:32 PM | PERMALINK

In other words, Conrad and Gregg have created a plan that's almost certain to fail.

If that's their intent, maybe they should start the cost-cutting by disbanding Congress altogether (since it doesn't do anything anyway) and go home.

Posted by: qwerty on December 10, 2009 at 12:33 PM | PERMALINK

all of the above plus -don't you just love the 50/50 split that so perfectly represents our majorities in both houses???

Posted by: sue on December 10, 2009 at 1:09 PM | PERMALINK

Labor unions, the NAACP, and the National Organization for Women are against it. So of course democrat representatives and senators will be against it too.

Hallucinating more than usual? One thing the Villagers, including most Democrats, always agree on is the importance of spitting on feminists and Unions. Even the Union members on the networks do it, right in front of their Union brothers working the cameras and microphones. And when was the last time the NAACP was brought into any national discussion for more than a token statement?

Posted by: Midland on December 10, 2009 at 1:10 PM | PERMALINK

"don't you just love the 50/50 split that so perfectly represents our majorities in both houses???"

Obviously they're thinking ahead.

Posted by: Dave H on December 10, 2009 at 1:18 PM | PERMALINK

You want to reduce the deficit? It's easy:

STOP THE FUCKING WARS AND CUT THE DEFENSE BUDGET IN HALF (OR MORE).

Reinstall the progressive tax rate structure we had in the 1960's.

Eliminate the gross wage disparity and concentration of wealth in our society.

There, fixed it.

Posted by: bdop4 on December 10, 2009 at 1:23 PM | PERMALINK

But deficits don't matter! That fine upstanding 'murrican patriot Dick Cheney told me so. Are you telling me that Dick Cheney was wrong and/or lying? Nooooooo!

Posted by: bikelib on December 10, 2009 at 1:35 PM | PERMALINK

"This doesn't make any sense".
Sure does. GOP wants zero reform on HCR, regulation, jobs, etc. etc. during the Obama administration. The way to do that is to engage (appear proactive) in a sham to do nothing (their goal) and provide blowback (we're working on it) when progressives tire of waiting and take their own initiative. DUH!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Chopin on December 10, 2009 at 2:48 PM | PERMALINK

Well, it makes perfact sense from the point of view of Conrad and Gregg and the other"centrists" i.e. center-rightists who will appoint themselves to the commission.
They get to go on all the talking-heads shows and be fawned over for their "moderate" views- "hey, let's cut taxes on rich folks and make up for it by slashing SS, Medicare and poverty programs".

As well, every special interest with an ox to gore will be pouring campaign contributions into their pockets.

What's not to like?

Posted by: MikeN on December 10, 2009 at 5:46 PM | PERMALINK

They got the name wrong:

Bipartisan "Depression Era II House of Pain" Committee to Fuck the Middle Class

brought to you by Peter G Peterson Foundation for the Preservation of the Leech Class, Goldman Sachs and the rest of the Wall St banksters.

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