The federal government is supposed to issue new rules about debt levels for students in for-profit colleges. In the meantime, the states are working on their own regulations.
There arent nearly enough counterterrorism experts to instruct all of Americas police. So we got these guys instead.
By Meg Stalcup and Joshua Craze
December 19, 2009
THIS WEEK IN GOD.... First up from the God Machine this week is a look at something called the "prayercast," organized by Family Research Council Action PAC, a leading religious right outfit. The point of the event was to organize right-wing activists to pray for the failure of health care reform in the Senate.
It's hard to truly appreciate the true madness surrounding the event and its neo-theocratic organizers/participants, but I found Rachel Maddow's coverage helped capture some of the more disturbing elements.
Of particular note, remember that high-ranking, elected federal officials were integrally involved in this rather bizarre right-wing gathering. Alongside religious right heavyweights like Tony Perkins and James Dobson, Sens. Jim DeMint (R-S.C.) and Sam Brownback (R-Kan.) were on hand, and Rep. Michele Bachman (R-Minn.) even helped lead attendees in prayer against health care reform.
Right Wing Watch had some of the best coverage of the "prayercast" anywhere, and posted some striking clips from the event, including this one in which Rep. Todd Akin (R-Mo.) argues that the Bible should be a "blueprint" for American government, and this one in which James and Shirley Dobson ask God to "frustrate the plans of the Evil One."
Also from the God Machine this week:
* Megachurch pastor, televangelist, and John McCain ally the Rev. Rod Parsley is apparently hurting financially, in part because of an abuse lawsuit stemming from an incident at his church's daycare center. This week, Parsley claimed to be the victim of a "demonically inspired financial attack."
* An evangelical legend passed this week: "Evangelist Oral Roberts, founder of the Oral Roberts Evangelistic Association and Oral Roberts University, died Tuesday from complications of pneumonia in Newport Beach, California, his spokeswoman said. He was 91."
* Citing a study conducted by the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life, the New York Times' Charles Blow reported, "Democrats were almost twice as likely to believe in ghosts and to consult fortune-tellers than were Republicans, and the Democrats were 71 percent more likely to believe that they were in touch with the dead." (thanks to reader D.J. for the tip)
Rep. Todd Akin (R-Mo.) argues that the Bible should be a "blueprint" for American government.
I agree wholeheartedly . . . .
Matthew 6
5)And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
6)But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
(Emphasis mine)
Posted by: SteveT on December 19, 2009 at 12:37 PM | PERMALINK
I just had to read the article on the last item, since it seems (to me, at least) counter-intuitive to the both the Dem and Repug mindsets that I usually encounter. I ran across this tidbit in the article:
The report is further evidence that Americans continue to cobble together Mr. Potato Head-like spiritual identities from a hodgepodge of beliefs — bending dogmas to suit them instead of bending themselves to fit a dogma. And this appears to be leading to more spirituality, not less.
- [Emphasis added]
That gives it a little perspective. The Repug mindset thrives on dogma and loves to be told what to do; the Dem mindset hates to be boxed in, and tends to rebel against authority.
In my own humble opinion, of course. :)
Posted by: Michael W on December 19, 2009 at 12:37 PM | PERMALINK
god finally brought brother oral back to the compost heap, and we all hope the components will contribute to a more benign subunit the next time around, brother coburn and his branch of the family are considered to be on a short list of speakers to the ugandan retribution society
Posted by: TulsaTime on December 19, 2009 at 12:41 PM | PERMALINK
---Rep. Todd Akin (R-Mo.) argues that the Bible should be a "blueprint" for American government---
Check the care tag on his suit. If he's wearing anything made out of mixed fibers, the bibble says he must be stoned to death. Then we would have to execute the entire NFL for profaning the sabbath.
(What government agency will be in charge of setting the standards for stones used in stonings? Probably need a new agency. So much for shrinking the size of government.)
Posted by: Tim H on December 19, 2009 at 12:46 PM | PERMALINK
Somehow it all fits together...
While the Repugnants are gathered with the neanderthal Christianists praying for illnesses and death to befall millions more of their uncared-for fellow citizens,
the Dims are getting in touch with the dead...
Yep, indeed!
Whatta country!
Posted by: neill on December 19, 2009 at 12:49 PM | PERMALINK
Remember how well prayer worked when Dobson (I think) called on his sheep, er, flock to pray for rain on the night of Obama's acceptance speech at the 2008 Democratic Convention? Obama got clear skies and 72 degrees. But a hurricane forced the Republicans to start THEIR convention a day late. I wish them every bit as much success this time.
Posted by: T-Rex on December 19, 2009 at 12:58 PM | PERMALINK
My 12-year old son wandered in while I was playing this and asked, "Is this The Onion?"
Sadly, no.
Posted by: craig643 on December 19, 2009 at 12:59 PM | PERMALINK
Aint no bigger a nut than a religious nut! Can be Christan, Muslim or Jewish but they can all be nutty when they begin pounding the Bible, Torah or Koran. Just nuts!
Posted by: Ingramjr on December 19, 2009 at 1:03 PM | PERMALINK
" The evil one". You must be kidding me. These people are like monkeys running around helter skelter jibber-jabbering any old nonsense that comes into their heads. Is it evil to try to get health coverage for as many people as you can. Or is it evil to oppose people getting health coverage and you know be more healthy. Whats more likely is that they want to see more people suffering so that5 they can exert control over them.
Posted by: Gandalf on December 19, 2009 at 1:04 PM | PERMALINK
Steve noted: "Democrats were almost twice as likely to believe in ghosts and to consult fortune-tellers than were Republicans, and the Democrats were 71 percent more likely to believe that they were in touch with the dead."
The phenomena of clairvoyance, precognition, and the ability to experience manifestations of what appear to be aspects of human personality that survive the death of the body, are not a priori "religious" matters and have no obvious connection to any "belief" in "God".
If such phenomena occur, they are simply natural phenomena -- facts of nature -- which we presently don't understand.
Whatever their underlying nature -- whether they represent "real" phenomena, or "merely" a particular form of hallucination that many people have experienced in consistent form throughout human history -- they are categories of human experience that most certainly can and should be investigated by science.
And they certainly should not be lumped in with "religious beliefs" simply because various religious authorities have traditionally proclaimed themselves as the sole authorities on such matters as what becomes of the human personality after death.
It's as though the Church had proclaimed that heavenly bodies were "supernatural" and thus the sole domain of religion, and Galileo had said "Oh, OK!", put down his telescope, and thereafter derided anyone who picked one up as engaging in pseudoscience.
Posted by: SecularAnimist on December 19, 2009 at 1:26 PM | PERMALINK
That's right, because Jesus had no interest whatsoever in healing or helping the sick or the poor.
I truly don't understand their concept of Jesus.
Posted by: zoe kentucky on December 19, 2009 at 2:01 PM | PERMALINK
Too bad someone couldn't have infiltrated this little prayer session and quoted this from Matthew chapter 6, verses 5-6,
When thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
Posted by: zoe kentucky from pittsburgh on December 19, 2009 at 2:08 PM | PERMALINK
People praying for something that will mean the deaths for over 10,000 Americans each year for lack of health insurance. They really need to ask God to forgive them.
Posted by: david1234 on December 19, 2009 at 2:10 PM | PERMALINK
My first thought was that this is a fairly high-risk strategy for the nutjobs because when the health care bill passes it will be obvious that God is a Democrat and isn't listening to the Christianist fruitcakes.
On reflection, they'll just start screaming louder about "The Evil One" and foam at the mouth and stuff and be just as obnoxious as before.
Bummer.
Posted by: Curmudgeon on December 19, 2009 at 2:27 PM | PERMALINK
Fascinating to watch a sitting Death Palin call for God's help in continuing to murder 45,000 Americans each year through our expensive meat-grinder of a healthcare system.
Over at Redstate, anti-American filth pray for a blizzard to hit the East Coast to prevent the nation's business from being done. People are dying on the highways and the homeless will die of exposure because of this storm that their psychopathic Republican God has been asked to provide.
When will my government begin to protect me from this internal enemy called the Republican Party which murders more Americans every month than al Qaeda?
Posted by: John Thullen on December 19, 2009 at 2:31 PM | PERMALINK
---My first thought was that this is a fairly high-risk strategy for the nutjobs because when the health care bill passes it will be obvious that God is a Democrat and isn't listening to the Christianist fruitcakes.---
It was a fairly high risk strategy for Jesus to claim that the world as they knew it would end before that generation died out, but that hasn't slowed the nutjobs down a bit. (Although it is fun to read about Paul tap dancing around the problem.)
Posted by: Tim H on December 19, 2009 at 2:45 PM | PERMALINK
Oral Roberts reached the highpoint of his career when I was growing up in the 50's and 60's. When we visited our relatives in Alabama once or twice a year, we were always regaled with the stories of his miracle working activities. (A belated thanks to my parents for moving away from the Deep South when I was six weeks old.)
I vividly remember one of my great aunts spending some of her not particularly lavish income for what looked to be a sort of kitchen dish towel, but with The Healing Hands of Oral imprinted on it. You were supposed to apply this piece of cloth to whatever part of your body was in difficulties for immediate relief. If the magic dish towel didn't work then you obviously weren't a true believer and needed to pray harder. Or send more money, I'm guessing.
I don't believe I ever heard of any mainstream religious body objecting to this sort of thing as blasphemous. They were probably just jealous they didn't think of it first.
Posted by: Mandy Cat on December 19, 2009 at 2:55 PM | PERMALINK
"God, please cause this nefarious health care reform to fail so that the poor and needy will continue to get sick and die. It's what Jesus would want. And also allow us to implement Christian sharia in these United States of America. Amen."
Matthew 15:7-9
You hypocrites! Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you:
‘These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me.
They worship me in vain; their teachings are but rules taught by men.’
Posted by: josef on December 19, 2009 at 2:55 PM | PERMALINK
The entire cast of characters are hypocrites in more ways than one. They call themselves followers of Jesus, but ignore His teachings. They host Prayercasts to publicly convince their followers of their sincerity. This is also contrary to Scripture.
Posted by: majii on December 19, 2009 at 3:08 PM | PERMALINK
These clowns have a god that doesn't "frustrate the plans of the Evil One" unless you ask him to? The hubris of declaring that God is omniscient, but they still get to tell him what to do, is pretty amazing.
Posted by: Redshift on December 19, 2009 at 3:11 PM | PERMALINK
Democrats communicating with the dead? Asking them to fill out voter registration forms, I suppose.
Sorry. I just couldn't leave that perfectly good joke lying around for some republican to pick up.
Posted by: hells littlest angel on December 19, 2009 at 3:12 PM | PERMALINK
Remember that when Jesus said "Blessed are the cheesemakers"! We know that he meant the corporate cheesmakers, not those goat herding hippies, and the poor can go scratch.
Those who preach the prosperity gospel know this well.
Posted by: Marc on December 19, 2009 at 6:20 PM | PERMALINK
Nothing to add, just one of the best threads in a while, er, well today anyway. Please continue. [holding sides, dapping eyes]
Posted by: Kevin on December 19, 2009 at 6:24 PM | PERMALINK
Given that God is almighty, Democrats must necessarily by doing God's will. When Bachman, DeMint et. al. tell God to grant Democrats' wisdom, they are really telling God to make Democrats act the way they (Republicans) want. There is a word for telling God what to do: " blasphemy"! May they rot in hell (assuming of course that it exists).
Posted by: J. Frank Panell on December 20, 2009 at 3:54 AM | PERMALINK
One of the big differences between conservatives and liberals is that conservatives assume God agrees with them.
How do you know if God agrees with you? And if God does agree with you how do you know God will respond the way you want him/her to? (grant Democrats wisdom, smite Obama, stop health care reform, etc. etc.) If conservatives' wishes go unfulfilled does that mean God disagrees with them?
Hmmmm. Aren't all these conservatives merely projecting their own image onto God? I agree with J. Frank Panel -- conservatives frequently cross the line into blasphemy. Add Glenn Beck's gold worshiping and you've got idolatry as well.
Posted by: pj in jesusland on December 20, 2009 at 4:33 AM | PERMALINK
hells littlest angel-communicating with the dead means communicating with republicans.
Posted by: ComradeAnon on December 20, 2009 at 9:25 AM | PERMALINK