December 22, 2009
PREDICTABLE TASTELESSNESS.... Right-wing blogs are not known for reaching heights of decency, so perhaps it shouldn't have been surprising when a site called "Confederate Yankee" published a post yesterday, hoping to see Sen. Robert Byrd (D-W.Va.) die in order to block health care reform.
The post was headlined "All I Want Is A Byrd Dropping For Christmas." It added that if Byrd didn't die, the blogger would settle: "Even a nice coma would do."
I was also struck by the conclusion, in which "Confederate Yankee" conceded that some may be offended by such distasteful commentary. He responded:
I'd remind them that the party wheeling in a near invalid to vote in favor of this unread monstrosity of a bill is the one that should feel shame.
What an interesting argument. As "Confederate Yankee" sees it, he can call for the death of a U.S. senator, so that 30 million uninsured Americans won't get health care coverage. That's fine. But if there's an expectation that the senator vote on the legislation, reform proponents ought to feel embarrassed.
I knew there was a reason I stopped reading right-wing blogs.
For what it's worth, "Confederate Yankee" has it backwards -- Democrats didn't create the circumstances that forced Byrd to vote; Republicans did: "[T]he ailing Robert Byrd was wheeled in at 1 a.m. to break a filibuster on the manager's amendment. Byrd's presence was not required, especially considering that he'd clearly telegraphed his intention to vote to break the filibuster. But Republicans forced him to travel to the chamber.... The Senate hasn't just lost a bit of its collegiality. It's become heartlessly ferocious -- a place where the death of an honored friend presents an opportunity to kill his legislation, and in which the infirmity of an ailing colleague is seen as a potential path to procedural victory."
—Steve Benen 9:55 AM
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I say once again, why is the right calling us a bunch of Nazis?
Posted by: ComradeAnon on December 22, 2009 at 9:57 AM | PERMALINK
Republicans - When you think they can get no lower, they amaze you and sink to new levels, what I cannot understand is how the country in general could ever trust a republican.
Posted by: JS on December 22, 2009 at 9:58 AM | PERMALINK
With apologies to Neill....
God damn the GOP's shit-filled soul to hell.
Posted by: Chopin on December 22, 2009 at 10:01 AM | PERMALINK
These guys would make Mr. Potter in It's a Wonderful Life recoil in horror and shame.
Posted by: Mustang Bobby on December 22, 2009 at 10:06 AM | PERMALINK
Killing grandma bad...
But killing Senator Grandpa is okay.
Posted by: Cantankerous liberal on December 22, 2009 at 10:09 AM | PERMALINK
I believe what is sought , is the taste of victory . Vince Lombardo's sense of "Winning isn't everything; it's the only thing" .
Lombardo had something the powerful mind of the "Confederate Yankee" has yet to grasp . I like to think of it as the grace and confidence one feels after living as an adult .
Posted by: FRP on December 22, 2009 at 10:09 AM | PERMALINK
And they're the ones screaming about death panels.
Posted by: mikek on December 22, 2009 at 10:10 AM | PERMALINK
The name says it all. The whole conservative movement is stuck in a time warp; they're still fighting the war against northern aggression.
Posted by: citizen_pain on December 22, 2009 at 10:15 AM | PERMALINK
In other places, one of the Republicans would have joined the Democrats to serve as Byrd's vote.
But then, Coburn came close to saying the same thing on the Senate floor...
Posted by: TonyB on December 22, 2009 at 10:15 AM | PERMALINK
JS said:
. . . what I cannot understand is how the country in general could ever trust a republican.
Let me count the ways . . .
The Democrats have a president who has an unhealthy fetish about bipartisanship and doesn't seem to understand that anything he allows members of the current incarnation of the Republican party to touch will be sullied.
The Democrats continue to hold a Charlie Brown-like belief that this time the corporate-controlled media will get the story right and tell Americans the truth about how the Republicans are to blame for most of what is wrong in this country.
For years the "leadership" of Congressional Democrats have hid under their desks and soiled themselves at the mere idea of being called a "liberal" or having a right-wing talking point aimed in their direction.
The Democrats are owned by large corporations to nearly the degree that Republicans are. A century ago Mark Twain said that America had "the best Congress that money can buy". That's no longer true. Now we merely have a Congress that money can buy.
Shall I go on?
Clearly the Democrats need more Alan Graysons and fewer Ben Nelsons.
Posted by: SteveT on December 22, 2009 at 10:18 AM | PERMALINK
I've read that more than one Repubnlican Senator was willing to pair with Byrd on grounds of civility, or even to vote for cloture, but the leadership (or the majority of the majority) refused to allow it.
In light of that, the supposed independence of Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins looks pretty silly. They didn't vote against cloture because that had serious concerns of one kind or another, they voted against cloture because they're terrified of Sen. McConnell (or whoever it is in the back room that pulls McConnell's strings).
Same for the supposed sane conservatives Lugar, Voinovicgh, and McCain. At least 40 members of the greatest deliberative body in the world are not free agents.
Posted by: John Emerson on December 22, 2009 at 10:19 AM | PERMALINK
Actually, I am quite proud of our Senate Democrats. They knew this fight was coming this Christmas and they (and their dedicated staffs) are up to the challenge. You go guys (and gals)! We appreciate your efforts. Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!
Posted by: Marko on December 22, 2009 at 10:26 AM | PERMALINK
<Broder>
This just undelines the fact that Obama must reach out to Republicans and make an effort to accommodate their concerns.
</Broder>
Posted by: Fleas correct the era on December 22, 2009 at 10:26 AM | PERMALINK
The darkest thoughts ever to cross the minds of liberals flow effortlessly from the tounges of wingnuts. There's no bottom to their depravity.
Posted by: Bill From PA on December 22, 2009 at 10:29 AM | PERMALINK
Vince Lombardo's....??
Between Rachel Maddow's bottom of the ninth baseball analogy and the Lombardo (Vince Lombardi's brother?) quote, I get the feeling not too many libruls watch sports.
Nonetheless, the meaning in both is clear.
Cheers.
Posted by: hopeful on December 22, 2009 at 10:41 AM | PERMALINK
And how many times did the Republicans wheel out ol' Strom to vote on some crap they were pushing? At least Byrd looks engaged.
Posted by: Andrew on December 22, 2009 at 10:48 AM | PERMALINK
Yeah, just to second Andrew's point - I'm not necessarily appalled at the "what if Byrd just died" part (it's politics... not show friends, or show business)... but the Republicans wheeled in both Strom Thurmond (and Jesse Helms IIRC) at various moments when it was needed. That's how the Senate rolls. Now, we may ask whether there's a decent interval when one ought to leave one's Senate post... but both sides play this game.
Posted by: weboy on December 22, 2009 at 10:53 AM | PERMALINK
Gun Counter Gomer is a despicable excuse for a human being who has proven himself a racist, misogynistic, homophobic intellectual lightweight who could do the human race a favor by killing himself in the most horrific and embarrassing way imaginable.
Oh ... sorry. Was that too shrill?
Posted by: Mark D on December 22, 2009 at 10:58 AM | PERMALINK
My favorite part of the post was Owens sneering at Byrd's membership in the KKK as a young man, a membership Byrd has renounced and frequently referred to as something he's ashamed of having done. It's like Owens is upset that Byrd decided that belonging to the KKK is a bad thing.
Of course, he does call himself "Confederate Yankee," so I'm guessing Owens doesn't see anything wrong with belonging to the KKK, but thinks it's bad form to leave and denounce it.
Posted by: Mnemosyne on December 22, 2009 at 10:58 AM | PERMALINK
THe right wing has long left behind any sense of decency ever since they accepted Rush Limbaugh and Michael Savage as their moral compasses.
What is even more strange in the unreal world they seem to be living in. They're not trying to kill THIS healthcare reform bill, they're trying to kill any chance of healthcare reform, period. That makes no sense. Healthcare reform...oppose, Climate change, alternative energy, education, anything constructive or beneficial to the american people...oppose, oppose, oppose.
They're nihilists. They know they're dream of a right wing oppressive Christian theocracy will never happen, so they're trying to crash everything down around them. they're out to inflict fatal damage at this point. THe hateful rhetoric is in tune with their agenda.
Posted by: SaintZak on December 22, 2009 at 11:00 AM | PERMALINK
Gun Counter Gomer is a despicable excuse for a human being who has proven himself a racist, misogynistic, homophobic intellectual lightweight who could do the human race a favor by killing himself in the most horrific and embarrassing way imaginable.
In the words of Clyde Bruckman (Peter Boyle) on "The X-Files":
"You know, there are worse ways to go, but I can't think of a more undignified way than autoerotic asphyxiation."
Posted by: Mnemosyne on December 22, 2009 at 11:02 AM | PERMALINK
Confederate Yankee sounds like a former colleague of mine who passed away a few weeks ago: A staunch and fierce ideologue who had no ability to transcend the immediate circumstance of "what's in it for me."
My colleague served my union as treasurer when I served as president, and he showed no quarter for fellow colleagues who were having legitimate beefs with their supervisor whom my recently departed colleague defended even as his and my colleagues were suffering. He couldn't take the union stance, or even the decent stance in light of the supervisors documented whim and caprice.
My recently departed colleague also had a penchant for gay-hating, and he made no bones about rhetorically denigrating other people he saw as "abnormal." Well, to make a very long story a bit shorter, he was diagnosed with colon cancer, and ended up asking all his colleagues to donate to his sick leave, to what turned out to be 2 1/2 years of donations.
Yes, Confederate Yankee is an asshole much like my colleague who left us without copping to his reliance upon those who he condemned, and as such, Confederate Yankee will get his! -Kevo
Posted by: kevo on December 22, 2009 at 11:06 AM | PERMALINK
Remember, "the South shall rise again?" Well, consider the no-separationists, the secessionists, the birthers, the tenthers, the culture warriors, the teabaggers, the anti-immigrationists...
Posted by: beep52 on December 22, 2009 at 11:07 AM | PERMALINK
It's not a surprise that Confed Yankee is a angry dolt: hey, he's a winger. But you'd think he'd remember his beloved Republitards wheeling Strom Thurmond around for more than a decade.
Posted by: mars on December 22, 2009 at 11:08 AM | PERMALINK
Why the hell do we still require Senators to be present to cast their votes. We've had the technology for decades to let Senators and Congresspeople vote from anywhere. And don't give me crap about 'floor debates'. Those have been nothing but scripted predictable events for the years now.
Posted by: thorin-1 on December 22, 2009 at 11:09 AM | PERMALINK
The most satisying result of removing the 60-vote cloture vote will be the neutering of Joe Lieberman. He is a Big Man with the rule, a dispensable nobody with it gone. Same for Ben Nelson.
Posted by: bob h on December 22, 2009 at 11:12 AM | PERMALINK
The United States exists because a near-invalid was "wheeled in" to a vote. That's why Caesar Rodney is on the Delaware quarter.
Posted by: Ken on December 22, 2009 at 11:13 AM | PERMALINK
Confederate Yankee is one huge mess of insecurities and desperation to prove he is the cartoon he man manly man.
He always sounds like he on a roid rage.
Posted by: Silver Owl on December 22, 2009 at 11:19 AM | PERMALINK
The old term for a "Confederate Yankee" was "Copperhead Traitor." In this case it's still very applicable.
This guy celebrates the Confederacy: white supremacy, unregenerate racism, reflexive militarism, an anti-democratic "aristocracy," the subjugation of women....
Back when I had my little blog "That's Another Fine Mess," I had a couple run-ins with this little turd. He's basically your typical right wing asshole who thinks it's "funny" to be "non-PC" and tell racist/sexist jokes and such.
Posted by: TCinLA on December 22, 2009 at 12:20 PM | PERMALINK
It's also rather descpicable that Gun Counter Gomer implies that the Democrats "wheeled Byrd in" as if he were some passive, non-responsive creature. It was surely Byrd's intention to vote - he would have fought to do so.
Posted by: g on December 22, 2009 at 1:20 PM | PERMALINK
I remember sometime in the 1980s the Republicans wheeled in Pete Wilson on a gurney to get the votes they needed to pass a bill out of the Senate. It's not like dramatic, last minute manuevers in the Senate haven't been tried before.
I suspect this Confederate Yankee would be singing a different tune if it was a bill he supported and the parties involved were differently aligned.
I'd sure like to experience a week, just a week!, without hearing about manufactured GOP outrage over what is normal course of business in govermental affairs. Barring that, maybe they could offer a realistic prescriptive to change the way laws are being passed, not advocating the death of a sitting member of the legislature.
Posted by: Jerry on December 22, 2009 at 1:21 PM | PERMALINK
Steve: I also remember the vote on the Stimulus Bill (believe it was that) where the Dems had to keep the vote open so that Senator Brown could fly back from his mother's funeral to cast a vote. Not one Republican would vote aye and simply say while he objects to the bill he is voting aye so that Senator Brown need not rush back from his mother's funeral. The failure of any Republican to do that really pissed me off.
Posted by: tom prendergast on December 22, 2009 at 1:35 PM | PERMALINK
A fine example of knee-jerk vitriol devoid of intelligent analysis or basic practical thinking from the extreme right. Were Sen Byrd to die or suffer a completely debilitating medical condition, the Democratic Governor of West Virginia, Joe Manchin III (whose term expires on January 14, 2013) would surely immediately appoint another Democrat to take Sen Byrd's place. Net result? Zero change in the vote on health reform except perhpas a slight delay. Confederate Yankee should go all the way and express his hate by researching to find a Democratic Senator in a state with a Republican Governor who could and would appoint a very conservative, anti-healthcare replacement Senator. And then he and his ilk could I suppose petition their god for that Senator's early death or coma. Despicable is the word that comes to mind -- immediately after the word stupid!
Posted by: John on December 22, 2009 at 2:05 PM | PERMALINK
To expand on Mnemosyne's post @ 11:02 AM, I think that Gomer's version of autoerotic death would be for one or both barrels of his shotgun to discharge as he was in the process of "catching," if you get my drift.
Yes, that's literally being a gun lover, which I'm sure that he would fully admit to being.
Posted by: BuzzMon on December 23, 2009 at 2:26 AM | PERMALINK