December 29, 2009
ABSTAINING FROM MAKING SENSE.... If there's one thing conservatives claim to hate, it's wasteful federal spending on programs that have been proven not to work.
Unless we're talking about funding for abstinence programs, in which case conservatives love wasteful federal spending on programs that have been proven not to work.
Proponents of sex education classes that focus on encouraging teenagers to remain virgins until marriage are hoping that the rescue plan for the nation's health-care system will also save their programs, which are facing extinction because of a cutoff of federal funding.
The health-care reform legislation pending in the Senate includes $50 million for programs that states could use to try to reduce pregnancies and sexually transmitted disease among adolescents by teaching to them to delay when they start having sex.
Under the federal budget signed by President Obama, such programs would no longer have funds targeted for them.
"We're optimistic," said Valerie Huber of the National Abstinence Education Association, which is lobbying to maintain funding for the programs. "Nothing is certain, but we're hopeful."
Bush/Cheney spent about $150 million a year on abstinence programs that failed miserably. Obama's budget directs funds to "teenage pregnancy prevention" for programs that have been "proven effective through rigorous evaluation." The right objected, arguing that limiting funding to effective programs would exclude their preferred initiatives. Obama didn't budge.
But abstinence proponents believe health care reform might offer new opportunities, in large part because Sen. Orrin G. Hatch (R-Utah) pushed a measure to provide $50 million to states to use for abstinence programs. It was approved in committee thanks to the support of a couple of conservative Democrats, and for some reason, the provision ended up as part of the legislation passed by the Senate. (Hatch described himself as being "as surprised as anyone" to see the provision remain in the bill.)
Reality has been stubborn on the question of abstinence effectiveness, and policymakers shaping the final health care bill would be wise to acknowledge it. The nonpartisan National Campaign to Prevent Teen and Unplanned Pregnancy found that abstinence programs do not affect teenager sexual behavior. A congressionally-mandated study, which was not only comprehensive but also included long-term follow-up, found the exact same thing. Researchers keep conducting studies, and the results are always the same.
This isn't complicated. Simply telling teenagers not to have sex doesn't affect behavior, doesn't prevent unwanted pregnancies, and doesn't stop the spread of sexually-transmitted diseases. Teens who receive comprehensive lessons of sexual health, with reliable, accurate information, are more likely to engage in safer, more responsible behavior.
That this is still even an argument reflects poorly on the seriousness with which lawmakers consider reason and evidence in shaping public policy.
—Steve Benen 11:15 AM
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"This isn't complicated. Simply telling teenagers not to have sex doesn't affect behavior, doesn't prevent unwanted pregnancies, and doesn't stop the spread of sexually-transmitted diseases."
That's the rational argument.
Now, for the Conservative POV: IT DOES, IT DOES, IT DOES!!! And nothing you say or write, and no matter how many proofs you show me, will make be think it doesn't. Thinking isn't believing. SO, IT DOES SO TOO WORK!!!
Now, back to our regularly scheduled news show: How that Muslim changling Obama is failing to protect OUR America!
Posted by: c u n d gulag on December 29, 2009 at 11:29 AM | PERMALINK
Where sex is considered an evil necessity these programs actually do make sense. If only to take away money from reasonable programs allowing teenagers to have safe yet still evil sex.
If they don't have to fear pregnancy and STDs anymore - what would prevent them from f$%&ing around? Love? Responsibility? Gimme a break! These are liberal concepts!
Posted by: Vokoban on December 29, 2009 at 11:36 AM | PERMALINK
When you put things in perspective, $150,000,000 is not very much money to drop on your favorite pet project.
We spend/waste far more than that on a lot of programs such as poorly thought out recycling programs or mass transit programs like most light rail systems.
I am not in favor of spending $150 million on a stupid program but how much money was wasted on the Denver light rail system, to name just one example.
Posted by: neil wilson on December 29, 2009 at 11:36 AM | PERMALINK
I suspect everyone knows this already, but the point isn't to reduce pregnancies in the most cost-effective manner. Abstinence programs are simply a cultural marker for conservatives to establish their worldview in the legislative arena. Abstinence programs are small dollar symbols to show religious conservatives that their legislators are still fighting for conservative beliefs. Effectiveness is WAY down on the list of priorities.
Posted by: danimal on December 29, 2009 at 11:52 AM | PERMALINK
There's nothing wrong with virginity.
Posted by: Al on December 29, 2009 at 11:55 AM | PERMALINK
As the mother of two (now young adult) daughters, I always approved of talking about abstinence. Then I made sure my daughters got a comprehensive sex education, in addition to what they learned in health class.
THAT is what works. Let teens make informed choices, knowing the full range of consequences -- diseases as well as pregnancy.
As the father of two girls, I think our president believes the same thing.
Posted by: Molly Weasley on December 29, 2009 at 12:02 PM | PERMALINK
Pardon my dangling modifier. I meant to say, "As the father of two girls, our president believes the same thing."
Posted by: Molly Weasley on December 29, 2009 at 12:03 PM | PERMALINK
Molly has it. The really bad thing about these abstinence-only classes is that they don't teach kids about STDs at all. Religious kids who want to remain virgins find all sorts of loopholes to convince themselves that they haven't really "done it", and they don't know how to effectively protect themselves. Saddlebacking and oral sex were not uncommon at all in the conservative Baptist church I grew up in, despite all the kids going through mandatory "True Love Waits" classes in 9th grade.
Posted by: Kris on December 29, 2009 at 12:06 PM | PERMALINK
Since framing is everything, I prefer the term "ignorance only" to "abstinence only".
It's more accurate too.
Posted by: Jim Ramsey on December 29, 2009 at 12:12 PM | PERMALINK
But just think of the ads Dems in purple/red districts can run after the Republican incumbant votes against the final bill:
"Rep So-and-so voted against abstinence-only sex education. Is this the kind of morals we want in Washington?"
Posted by: j.e.b. on December 29, 2009 at 12:32 PM | PERMALINK
Are there any bad ideas that weren't advanced by the "reform" bill?
Posted by: Tlaloc on December 29, 2009 at 12:38 PM | PERMALINK
the problem with comprehensive sex ed is that you have to use words like "vagina" and "penis", and that would make Orrin Hatch uncomfortable.
Posted by: whatever on December 29, 2009 at 12:46 PM | PERMALINK
Quoth Al: "There's nothing wrong with virginity."
If only your mother had espoused such a noble concept.
pwned.
Posted by: Govt Skeptic on December 29, 2009 at 12:53 PM | PERMALINK
Unwanted pregnancy is not confined to our schools.
Apparently, in the military, "Don't ask, don't tell," means, "Are you wearing a condom?"
Posted by: DAY on December 29, 2009 at 12:58 PM | PERMALINK
Exactly, Molly. The problem isn't with the abstinence, it's with the "-only". And it's not just that the programs have been proven not to work, it's that they're actively harmful compared to comprehensive sex education.
Posted by: Redshift on December 29, 2009 at 1:12 PM | PERMALINK
If it wasn't for Republican "abstinence only" sex ed, the troops in Iraq would know what is what about sex, and they wouldn't be facing court-martials for pregnancies.
Why do Republicans hate the troops?
Posted by: TCinLA on December 29, 2009 at 1:55 PM | PERMALINK
Sen. Orrin G. Hatch (R-Utah) pushed a measure to provide $50 million to states to use for abstinence programs... Hatch described himself as being "as surprised as anyone" to see the provision remain in the bill.
Why? Was he expecting the Democrats to strip out all the Republican-sponsored measures, just because none of the Republican senators voted for the bill?
Say, doesn't this mean that the bill can be called bipartisan?
Posted by: Ken on December 29, 2009 at 3:37 PM | PERMALINK
When I was a teen my thoughts were not about pregnancy or STD's or "saving myself" or anything like that. It was all about the hormones leading me along.
Teaching teens about abstinence doesn't work and shouldn't be funded no matter how loud the GOP yells. Look at Bristol Palin.....it doesn't work and is a gross waste of money.
Posted by: mishanti on December 29, 2009 at 6:13 PM | PERMALINK
Really nice information, thanks!
Posted by: GreenGoblin on October 21, 2010 at 1:19 PM | PERMALINK