Steve,
Where's the fun in just trying him and sentencing him to prison for life, if what we've heard is true?
Come on, you gotta smack the guy around some. Waterboard him and then hook him up, still wet, to a car battery. Degrade him in front of others. You know, the stuff that stiffens a good conservatives nipples and give them a Bob Dole woodie.
And you're right. They have to limits and no shame. What scares me is many Americans have no brains...

semi-related....today's republican senate committee fundraising email for rob jesmer has some pathetic fearmongering in it:

"Even more scary was knowing this country was one faulty detonator away from an American airliner being blown out of the sky. Remember right after the inauguration, it was revealed President Obama no longer wanted to acknowledge the "global war on terror" and referred to terrorist acts as "man-made disasters"? Back then you and I knew that showed a remarkable lack of understanding of the threat America faced but in the face of what nearly happened a couple days, it is even more infuriating.

Now more than ever we need a check in the Senate to stop the radical Obama agenda down until we elect a Republican President in 2012."

the gop really is beyond jumping the shark at this point

no limits, no shame...

Nor does the corporate media that convey the lies and treason to the infantilized american public.

Ok so where are the democrats defending Obama? The answer is they're to cowardly to step forward.

Hoekstra, King, Rove, DeMint and now Thiessen - they've all been pantsed in public, but now, not a one has enough sense to pull his britches up! -Kevo

I totally agree with gulag commenter and really all the rest of them listed so far.

How can we expect to keep the country safe if we first don't torture him and send him to gitmo?

Also, where are the Obama surrogates? Why is no Democrat defending the president against the Cheney tripe????

Seriously, here's a good rundown of why Republicans like Cheney thrive when people evade reality.

All of this is for entertainment value only. The airliner did not get blown up which means that the GOP can use it any way it wants. No one cares except as the administration overreacts and air travel gets even more horrendous--it appears that after some initial nonsense about having passengers pee themselves there is no great overreaction. It is the same thing with health care reform and the economy. It is the results that will matter not the nonsense put out by the talking heads--GOP, MSM or Democrat. If the economy is improving for enough people by November 2010 and people do not feel they have been hosed by health care reform and there has been no major terrorist attack on American interests, then the Democrats will not lose many seats regardless of the nonsense. On the other hand if the economy is not improving except for the fat cats, if most people feel that health care reform has done them little good and cost them a lot of money--taxes, mandates, higher premiums-- and there is a major successful terrorist attack, then the Democrats will want the GOP talking in hopes that people will believe the issues are not real. Regardless the Democrats will lose a lot of seats and probably majorities in both chambers. The folks who read this blog and the right's equivelant care about words and precedent and fairness etc, but most Americans only care about the results.

Based on _Traitor to His Class_ (Roosevelt bio) what Republicans are doing today is not much different from their antics back then. But Neill is right, the changes in journalism are significant. Because far right ideology was unpopular and consistently rejected by a majority of Americans, they decided it was necessary to change the ways in which their ideas were being framed/communicated. Attack the messenger, in other words. Interesting that it was massive frustration with the moderates of their own party (1950s) that inspired conservatives to start their long, hard push to get the notion of "balance" adopted as a new journalistic standard. They largely succeeded. Now they have a legitimate place at the political debate table, because now there is no objective fact or truth, just different opinions, all of which are potentially equally valid. Something is rotten..

Sad to see the Republicans so frustrated, after getting the terrorist attack they've been praying for over a year to happen, it was a dud. Rather than be thankful for that, they are irritated that it didn't get their point across...perpetuating the myth that there were no attacks on Bush's watch. I suppose the next step is sending GOP operatives to meet with AQ and give them some tips and training.

Obama Derangement Syndrome (ODS) rears its ugly head yet again.

Here is my guess: Richard Reid got to be tried with good ol' 'merican justice because he had a name Republicans could pronounce. They think anyone with a name they can't pronounce (Abdulmutallab) should not be granted such a privilege. It is that simple.

Withay makes part of the point that is sickens me to consider. Yes, we could pronounce "Reid" and he is white.

"Literally every day, and with literally every story, the usual suspects -- congressional Republicans, the RNC, Fox News, National Review, The Weekly Standard, etc. -- ask themselves, "How can we use this to attack the White House?" Contradictions, hypocrisy, and dishonesty are entirely irrelevant, and aren't considered obstacles to trashing the president."

Don't forget (with limited exceptions) CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC, AP, The Washington Post, ... The mainstream (barbeque) media is crap on a stick.