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February 2, 2010

WHAT THEY'RE THINKING.... Markos Moulitsas commissioned a fascinating poll in January, getting a better sense of exactly what rank-and-file Republicans are thinking nationwide.

...I'm putting the finishing touches on my new book, American Taliban, which catalogues the ways in which modern-day conservatives share the same agenda as radical Jihadists in the Islamic world. But I found myself making certain claims about Republicans that I didn't know if they could be backed up. So I thought, "why don't we ask them directly?" And so, this massive poll, by non-partisan independent pollster Research 2000 of over 2,000 self-identified Republicans, was born.

The results are nothing short of startling.

Quite right. A plurality of rank-and-file Republicans wants to see President Obama impeached. More than a third of self-identified Republicans believe he wasn't born in the United States. A 63% majority is convinced the president is a socialist, about a fourth believe he wants terrorists to be successful, and about a third think Obama is a racist who hates white people.

Nearly a third of Republicans think contraceptive use should be outlawed.

More than three-quarters of Republicans want public schools to teach children that the book of Genesis "explains how God created the world."

A third of Southern Republicans want to see their state secede from the union.

Yesterday, when Kos started leaking some of these results on Twitter, Greg Sargent noted, "Folks on the left are having fun with these poll numbers allegedly showing Republicans are crazy, but pissing on the GOP base isn't going to solve the Dems' political problems. Sorry."

That strikes me as both fair and accurate. It's very easy to review these stunning results and think, "The Republican Party is dominated by nutjobs." Whether that's true or not will have no bearing on whether those nutjobs elect like-minded candidates to help run the country. (Indeed, in the same poll, 83% of self-identified Republicans said they intend to vote in November.)

That said, the poll results are important for reasons that have nothing to do with their point-and-laugh quotient. Markos noted the practical implications: "Ultimately, these results explain why it is impossible for elected Republicans to work with Democrats to improve our country."

Exactly. When unhinged voters send far-right lawmakers to speak on their behalf, the result is a group of Republican lawmakers who a) are nowhere near the middle; b) disinclined to compromise; and c) have to toe the party line or risk punishment from the base.

I'd also note that Dems might be able to use numbers like these to characterize the GOP as having given up on the American mainstream. If independents and moderate Republicans begin to think that the GOP has fallen off a right-wing cliff, it's at least possible that fewer and fewer Americans will want to have anything to do with the party or its candidates.

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"Republicans are incapable of governing. Look: a third of Southern Republicans want to see their state secede from the union."

Repeat.

"Republicans are standing in the way of economic recovery. Because they're crazy. A 63% majority is convinced the president is a socialist, about a fourth believe he wants terrorists to be successful, and about a third think Obama is a racist who hates white people."

Repeat.

Posted by: Cazart on February 2, 2010 at 12:56 PM | PERMALINK


gop logic:

majorities rule...

unless its a democratic majority...

Posted by: mr. irony on February 2, 2010 at 12:57 PM | PERMALINK

I'm all for giving a few southern states to the Republicans and letting them secede from the union, provided they name their new nation Ignorantmotherfuckerland.

Posted by: hells littlest angel on February 2, 2010 at 1:02 PM | PERMALINK

"Whether that's true or not will have no bearing on whether those nutjobs elect like-minded candidates to help run the country"

This goes a long way to explaining the current crop of Republican congresscritters.

I went to bed last night in the 21st Century.

And I awoke this morning in Monty Python's Middle Ages. . .

Posted by: DAY on February 2, 2010 at 1:04 PM | PERMALINK

The poll in and of itself isn't the answer, however, if it is possible to push the results into some of the mainstream media's outlets, they might be in the spotlight for 5 minutes before we move onto the wingnuts demanding Rahms resignation for speaking the truth in private.

Posted by: bcinaz on February 2, 2010 at 1:06 PM | PERMALINK

Now, this is a poll of self-identified Republicans. As of last fall, that group constituted about 20% of the electorate. Let's be charitable and say they've had a 50% resurgence, and now it's 30%. So the really big number, say the 75% of them that want Genesis taught in the schools, amounts to only 22% of the public. Probably even less.

This is significantly less than the usual 27% crazification factor (though adding the weird Democrat or Independent or two, would probably get there). No big deal -- unless every Republican candidate can be tarred with this.

I say go with the contraceptive finding. About time that got some play.

Posted by: David in NY on February 2, 2010 at 1:08 PM | PERMALINK

How about a poll regarding what "rank and file Democrats" are thinking?

I am sick to death of the catering to what Republicans want the Democratic majority to do.

Elections are supposed to have consequences. I didn't realize that the consequence of the 2008 elections was that we were going to have more of the bloody same.

Posted by: karen marie on February 2, 2010 at 1:10 PM | PERMALINK

I look forward to the coming GOP conflagration when Markos' book comes out, also too

The reaction will probably be somewhat different than how Liberals and the Media treated the Doughy Pantload when Liberal Fascism hit the streets.

Posted by: bcinaz on February 2, 2010 at 1:10 PM | PERMALINK

Google took me past Althouse's blog (may I shower now?), where the comments are hilarious. Two-thirds of them say the poll is totally wrong and biased and another two-thirds think that the wacko things it finds Republicans believe (he's a socialist, not a citizen, etc.) are completely true.

QED

Posted by: David in NY on February 2, 2010 at 1:13 PM | PERMALINK

Steve Benen wrote: "Whether that's true or not will have no bearing on whether those nutjobs elect like-minded candidates to help run the country."

The problem is not that the "nutjobs" will elect like-minded "nutjobs".

The problem is that the "nutjobs" will elect bought-and-paid-for corporate stooges and career white-collar crooks who know how to push the talk-radio-programmed buttons of the "nutjobs".

The bizarre beliefs reported in this survey didn't just come out of nowhere -- they have been carefully, comprehensively, systematically developed, focus-group-tested and scripted by the corporate-owned, so-called "conservative" media for the explicit purpose of creating an army of brainwashed Ditto-Head zombies who will slavishly and unquestioningly believe, say and do whatever Rush Limbaugh and the rest of the corporate mouthpieces of the phony "conservative" media tell them.

These pathetic souls are not so much "nutjobs" as they are "puppets".

Posted by: SecularAnimist on February 2, 2010 at 1:16 PM | PERMALINK

More political parties allowed to participate in campaigns, please.

Posted by: Algernon on February 2, 2010 at 1:16 PM | PERMALINK

unfortunately, just being a democratic president rises -- in the minds of these people -- to the level of "high crimes or misdemeanors" worthy of impeachment.

Posted by: mellowjohn on February 2, 2010 at 1:17 PM | PERMALINK

The problem has less to do with Republicans being crazy, than with the fact that their ideas are treated as the serious ones by every facet of our political system.

Posted by: Roddy McCorley on February 2, 2010 at 1:18 PM | PERMALINK

But how much of right-wing opinion that we see in these polls is a result of the influence of the right-wing leadership? Why do we assume that Republican office-holders are merely reflecting the priorities of their base, rather than molding them?

Posted by: bobbo on February 2, 2010 at 1:22 PM | PERMALINK

Thanks, karen marie - you're right on.

It's beyond unfortunate that the Democrats in Congress cater tothe nutjobs instead of coming out strong and confident on the platform we voted them into office with.

Posted by: ghillie on February 2, 2010 at 1:24 PM | PERMALINK

•They're still fighting the Civil War
•They're still resentful over civil rights
•They're still bitter over Nixon

They won't be happy until:
•They've established southern christian conservatism as the nation's dominant culture
•They have constitutionally strangled non white, non straight American citizens
•They have forced a Demcratic President out of office

Posted by: SaintZak on February 2, 2010 at 1:25 PM | PERMALINK

"...they name their new nation Ignorantmotherfuckerland." Posted by: hells littlest angel

Went there once; the rides suck.

Posted by: cr on February 2, 2010 at 1:31 PM | PERMALINK

Unfortunately, these nationwide numbers are diluted by a lot of blue states. In some areas (I'm looking at you, South) the numbers will be much higher, to the point where common lunacy becomes accepted as common sense. This degree of polarization bodes ill for the unity of the nation, especially now that the South has industrialized. Any violence from either side must be swiftly and thoroughly contained. And don't kid yourself, it's not about Obama being black. I've felt since Clinton that the next Democratic President would be subjected to a breathtaking barrage of lies. There are damn few white guys who would have held up like Obama has. Ultimately the Republicans are politicians unwisely playing with fire. The embers they're fanning to life are very old. They've been smoldering for a long, long time.

Posted by: Keeping Track on February 2, 2010 at 1:31 PM | PERMALINK

I was stunned by these results until I took a look at the survey data. The survey has a heavy weighting to white southern christians. This demographic is the very difinition of "American Taliban". The appeal of the Christian right in red states, IS about rallying resistance to secular social agendas. Given their beliefs, they will attempt to impose a theocracy on an otherwise secular society.

Posted by: M. Alexander on February 2, 2010 at 1:36 PM | PERMALINK

This poll confirms what I saw last summer at my local health care reform town hall meeting: There are a lot of unhinged, intolerant conservatives who think shouting down speakers with crackpot charges and physical intimidation are democratic debate tactics.

Posted by: pj in jesusland on February 2, 2010 at 1:39 PM | PERMALINK

So, SecularAnimist, is it the Illuminati or the Gnomes of Zurich that are behind the corporations that are pulling of these puppets' strings?

For FSM sake your post is as nutty as it gets. The level of competent coordination and planning that would be required for your rant to be true would surpass the abilities of ten thousand Dr. Evil type geniuses.

Rupurt Murdoch and Roger Ailes aren't that bright or forward thinking to be able to craft a plan that complex and overarching.

And tell me who in the Republican party (Michael Steele? Newt Gingrich? Mike Pense?) would have the requisite brain power to do this?

Honestly, things are bad, but it's because of short-sighted greediness and incompetence, not some diabolical master plan to brainwash the populace of the US into accepting some Corporocracy.

Posted by: Dr. Morpheus on February 2, 2010 at 1:41 PM | PERMALINK

SecularAnimist nailed it back there (scroll up). The shadowy figures behind the public faces have schemed for decades to dumb down as much of the population as they could for just this purpose. An ignorant and easily conned electorate is the easiest thing in the world to milk in perpetuity for personal power and wealth, and they will never be the wiser.

Of course, if they are truly successful in the ultimate sense it will mean the eventual extinction of the USA as we know it, but hey, who cares as long as they've got enough money and influence to never have to worry about the consequences themselves, right?

Posted by: Curmudgeon on February 2, 2010 at 1:47 PM | PERMALINK

83% will vote.

That's the scary number.

They're disaffected and motivated.

The average Democrat is disillusioned and apathetic.

That's what worries me, but then I guess that's Steve's point.

Posted by: Jeff Wenker on February 2, 2010 at 1:50 PM | PERMALINK

Sargent is just another mainstream idiot. I wish it were not so. But 90% of the battle is about the credibility of the Republicans.

We must destroy it. It is a war, and people really are dying. In our emergency rooms, in Iraq, in Afghanistan, in rundown houses in the Midwest. We must prove to the country and the media that these clowns must not stand in the way of true, patriotic Americans who are willing to make hard decisions and do hard work.

Sargent doesn't want to appear to be the aggressor. What he and the Obama/Rahm Democrats don't appear to understand is that their obligation is not to appear reasonable. Their obligation is to fight for the 250 million Americans who would benefit from us winning this war.

Destroying Republican credibility would be an important beachhead to winning this war. Kudos to the Great Orange Satan for seeking to find facts and bring them to light.

Posted by: Dollared on February 2, 2010 at 1:52 PM | PERMALINK

"Indeed, in the same poll, 83% of self-identified Republicans said they intend to vote in November."

After the last elephant in the circus passes by, "83% of the clowns will vote" is the news we can use.

Folks considering themselves progressive who do not vote this coming November have serious mental problems.

GOTV or else.

Posted by: Doug Bostrom on February 2, 2010 at 1:53 PM | PERMALINK

To karen marie: Bravo! It is about time we started looking at the actual people who put Obama and the Dems in office. I am so tired of reading about and hearing about what the right wing thinks. Who cares? They are a bunch of dangerous nuts who already take themselves too seriously. How about the rest of us, the sane people? We are
giving way too much credence to the crazy people.

I know that the Nazi party gained power by being bullies and behaving in an aggressive way. They never had more than 30% approval, but they were loud and vocal. We should learn from History so we are not condemed to repeat it.

Posted by: Gracious on February 2, 2010 at 1:54 PM | PERMALINK

Sarah's more qualified than Obama to be preznut?

That's the only necessary data from this poll needed.

We want a bimbo! Obama's a foreighn born, white-hating, socialist who ........

JFC.

Unhinged is too polite to describe these poll results.

Secessionists worried about Obama's birthplace?

Go figure.

Posted by: Tom Nicholson on February 2, 2010 at 1:57 PM | PERMALINK

Was the question asked?
- Are Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh serious politicians spreading propaganda , pundits or entertainers?


-Do you believe Fox spreads propaganda more than tells news?

Posted by: MLJohnston on February 2, 2010 at 1:58 PM | PERMALINK

@MLJohnston

Beat me to it ...The answers are all Beck and Rushblow talking points.

Posted by: john R on February 2, 2010 at 2:02 PM | PERMALINK

I'm continually reminded by events like this how fantastic a place the USA could be without the south plus a few other states. We could accept that the Earth is more than 6000 years old, that the Earth is not at the center of the Universe, or even the solar system, that life has evolved from less exotic to more exotic forms, that you don't have to abandon a belief in a higher intelligence just because you accept science, that earthquakes are not a punishment from god, that greed is not an absolute good, that skin color has little to do with being human, that clean air and water should be a birthright ... Oh it just goes on.

Posted by: rbe1 on February 2, 2010 at 2:03 PM | PERMALINK

Just an aside to my comrade Dr. Morpheus: It's hard to believe, I know, but it's the people in the background who never appear in the headlines that are the most insidious. Billionaires like casino owner Sheldon Adelson, Richard Mellon Scaife and David Koch provide both the money and the "talent" to pursue their far-right agendas with a ferocity that boogles the mind.

Add in the equally unhinged Christianist revolutionaries with their own massive funding and organizations and you've got one potent machine out there.

And they have been very patient. They realized early on that controlling information meant controlling the country, which is why they've put so much time and resources into buying up the vast majority of the MSM out there today. How else could soulless cretins like Rush and Glenn and Bill-O dominate the airwaves as they do, and why even a mainstream network like CBS is accepting anti-abortion ads for the Super Bowl while rejecting anything even remotely progressive?

I could go on, but I think you get the drift.
Good luck, everyone. We're going to need it.

Posted by: Curmudgeon on February 2, 2010 at 2:07 PM | PERMALINK

Dr. Morpheus wrote: "The level of competent coordination and planning that would be required for your rant to be true would surpass the abilities of ten thousand Dr. Evil type geniuses."

Not really. A few Madison Avenue ad men is all it takes. Selling a phony-baloney "conservative" pseudo-ideology and a bunch of crackpot beliefs to gullible rubes is not really different from selling SUVs or deodorant. If anything, it is easier.

Posted by: SecularAnimist on February 2, 2010 at 2:07 PM | PERMALINK

I would have preferred a poll asking rank-and-file GOP Congresscritters what they are thinking.

Not that I can't come up with some entertaining notions on my own...

Posted by: Gridlock on February 2, 2010 at 2:08 PM | PERMALINK

I'm much more incline to think Obama, Rahm and Axelrod can't stand liberals (the evidence is overwhelming), although hate is a word I would never apply to the President's mindset.

Posted by: paradox on February 2, 2010 at 2:11 PM | PERMALINK

This is the kind of endemic craziness that has, for a long time, made me believe that the American Revolution was one of the major tragedies of history.

Posted by: Susan on February 2, 2010 at 2:12 PM | PERMALINK

On further thought, I'd like to suggest that Steve Benen, and other high profile bloggers, spend more time reporting the positions and opinions of the majority of people in this country, rather than assisting the Villagers in publicizing the positions and opinions of the minority.

The rightwing fringe has the power that they do because every time they sneeze it's front page news.

How about reporting more about what the rest of the public is doing and thinking. I acknowledge that it's a more complicated thing to do but it's also the right thing to do.

People on the left are fond of occasionally talking about changing the script but seem to be more comfortable with the one established by Republicans.

I've had enough for a lifetime.

Posted by: karen marie on February 2, 2010 at 2:26 PM | PERMALINK

I think we should encourage them to secede.

What did Barney Frank say? "trying to have a conversation with you would be like arguing with a dining room table"?

Posted by: short fuse on February 2, 2010 at 2:27 PM | PERMALINK

For those who scoff the idea of some 'evil genius' behind the pitchforks and teabag crowd, consider that the Chinese are masters of the "Hundred Year Plan".

Closer to home, does anyone remember the McDonald's roll out, in the 60's, of Happy Meals, Ronald McDonald, those plastic playgrounds?

Indoctrination has many guises, but they all succeed. Think about that, when you contemplate the Marine Corps, Sunday School, the Texas Textbook Conspiracy. . .

Posted by: DAY on February 2, 2010 at 2:30 PM | PERMALINK

What exactly is Obama to be impeached for?

And 75% want Genesis taught in school? Jesus Christ!

Posted by: ckelly on February 2, 2010 at 2:32 PM | PERMALINK

karen marie wrote: "I'd like to suggest that Steve Benen, and other high profile bloggers, spend more time reporting the positions and opinions of the majority of people in this country, rather than assisting the Villagers in publicizing the positions and opinions of the minority."

Of course, this is Steve's blog and he can write about whatever he wants to write about, though I assume he must at some point answer to the powers that be at The Washington Monthly.

Having said that, it is really striking that coverage of actual progressive Democrats is almost nonexistent on this blog. Certainly, Steve gives FAR more attention and blog space to the likes of Sarah Palin than to, for example, Dennis Kucinich.

Indeed, when Steve does mention progressive Democrats -- particularly the progressive Democrats in the House who have produced FAR, FAR BETTER legislation than has the Senate with regard to health care, climate change and everything else that matters -- it seems that it is usually to castigate them for not going along with the Republican-Lite, corporate-stooge "Democrats" in the Senate.


Posted by: SecularAnimist on February 2, 2010 at 2:53 PM | PERMALINK

Republican Sharia.

Posted by: Bob M on February 2, 2010 at 2:55 PM | PERMALINK
A plurality of rank-and-file Republicans wants to see President Obama impeached. More than a third of self-identified Republicans believe he wasn't born in the United States. A 63% majority is convinced the president is a socialist, about a fourth believe he wants terrorists to be successful, and about a third think Obama is a racist who hates white people.

Nearly a third of Republicans think contraceptive use should be outlawed.

More than three-quarters of Republicans want public schools to teach children that the book of Genesis "explains how God created the world."

Okay, here's the thing, so you don't be so damned Alarmist about this.

More than a third of Republicans think Obama's a born furriner. Funny. That means a solid majority of Republicans DON'T.

About a fourth believe he wants the TERRERISTS to win. Great, that means 3/4ths of Republicans believe Obama's actually trying to win the GWOT Brought To You By KBR (tm).

About a third believe Obama is a racist against Whitey. Wonderful, it means 2/3s think he's COOL Y'all.

And I'm totally relaxed considering the numbers showing 2/3rd of Republicans don't have problems with contraceptives.

Instead of focusing on the 'terrifying' numbers of how SIGNIFICANT MINORITIES in that party believe in scary crap, let's focus instead on highlighting the fact that solid majorities in the Republicans are perfectly sane and moderate, and try to use these numbers to convince those moderates that hey, guess what, STOP LETTING THOSE CRAZIES SPEAK FOR YOU and TAKE CONTROL BACK from those wingnuts who AREN'T holding popular views WITHIN YOUR OWN PARTY.

Let's worry about the real troubling numbers, such as the 63 percent that think Obama's a ZOMG SOCIALIST (he isn't!) and the 3/4ths of Republicans who want the Book of Genesis to replace our 7th Grade Biology textbook. THAT'S the scary stuff.

Posted by: PaulW on February 2, 2010 at 3:07 PM | PERMALINK

The right wing nuts on Fox continue to spread these lies and every day I gain more respect for Obama because since day 1 he has been under attack and he continues to do the work of the country with dignity and grace and he does not name call in reply, the right just shows themselves up for what they are - ignorant thugs. ( I will call them names)

Posted by: JS on February 2, 2010 at 3:18 PM | PERMALINK

I'll repeat what I've said before. GOP poll responders may be giving answers they want to win even if they don't REALLY believe it. Debunking that which they know is untrue may not serve their purposes so well.

Recall 28% approved of Dubya's performance. I believe a good portion of them didn't really mean it, but felt they had to say they did so his numbers wouldn't take below those of Harry Truman to make a new record low. These 28% I consider to answer these polls with the conservative answer regardless of facts.


49% (A plurality) wants Obama impeached.
Okay, subtract the 28% who will answer any which way and 21 out of 72% or 30% of the sincere Republicans want Obama impeached (for something or other.)


Fewer than 10% of sincere Republicans believe he wasn't born in the United States, or that he's a racist, think contraceptive use should be outlawed, or should secede (Southerners only)

35% of sincere Republicans think he's a socialist.

and not a single sincere Republican thinks he wants terrorists to be successful.


The only one that disturbs me in my little comfort zone is that 47% of sincere Republicans want public schools to teach children that the book of Genesis "explains how God created the world." Combined with the fakers, this is a solid majority and this one wingnut platform plank is for real.

Biblical fealty is STRONG in the GOP.

Posted by: toowearyforoutrage on February 2, 2010 at 3:19 PM | PERMALINK

karen marie is right as she often is.

I stood in the cold weather on the lawn of the Capital in January, 2009, watching and listening as our ELECTED president took the oath of office. I was surrounded by millions of people.

Where are those people now? Why aren't we in the streets in support of our president? No, in typical Dem fashion, he's not "progressive" enough for some Dems. So they're taking their football and going home.

Bullshit. Obama is governing in a moderate style. He's doing a good job, particularly given the mess he was asked to take over.

As someone wrote above, any Dem who doesn't vote Dem this November should have his head examined.

Posted by: phoebes-in-santa fe on February 2, 2010 at 3:25 PM | PERMALINK

What I tell you three times is true:

the ONLY way to counter the republican promotion of ignorance is to PUSH SCIENCE. Learning, eaching and experimenting. Science brings in money for the economy as it provides the basis for improved technology. The very web republicans use to disseminate their religious piffle was created by science. WE WANT MORE SCIENCE and we want it NOW!

the ONLY way to counter the republican promotion of ignorance is to PUSH SCIENCE. Learning, eaching and experimenting. Science brings in money for the economy as it provides the basis for improved technology. The very web republicans use to disseminate their religious piffle was created by science. WE WANT MORE SCIENCE and we want it NOW!

the ONLY way to counter the republican promotion of ignorance is to PUSH SCIENCE. Learning, eaching and experimenting. Science brings in money for the economy as it provides the basis for improved technology. The very web republicans use to disseminate their religious piffle was created by science. WE WANT MORE SCIENCE and we want it NOW!

Posted by: Kurt on February 2, 2010 at 3:29 PM | PERMALINK

pissing on the GOP base isn't going to solve the Dems' political problems.

Why not?

Republicans have been pissing on a mythical Democratic base (gays, feminists, blacks, radicals, whatever) for forty-five years now. And, more often than not, winning thumping majorities by doing so.

Why shouldn't Democrats start winning elections by drawing on the majority's (quite rational) fear, hatred and contempt for the ignorant, violent, racist, sexist, fundamentalist neanderthals that we all know are at the heart of the GOP? No risk of driving those guys away by demonizing them -- they're never going to vote even for the most "moderate" Bayh/Ford/Lieberman Democrat -- where's the downside?

Posted by: Basilisc on February 2, 2010 at 4:46 PM | PERMALINK

A lot can be learned from the history of diamonds in this country..

Posted by: matt on February 2, 2010 at 6:05 PM | PERMALINK

It's too bad we can't limit voting to people who can pass (70% or better) a standard exam with questions (just basic stuff) on US History, Geography, Science, political science, current events, etc. It would certainly cut down on the number of nutjobs elected to office.

Posted by: Hmmmmm on February 2, 2010 at 6:23 PM | PERMALINK

"Republicans have been pissing on a mythical Democratic base (gays, feminists, blacks, radicals, whatever, for forty-five years now." Basilisc @ 4:46 PM.

Notice that all the Democratic groups are minorities? Perhaps that's the reason the Republican base is so frightened - they're the minority now and they know it.
And they also know exactly how THEY treat minorities...

Posted by: Doug on February 2, 2010 at 6:31 PM | PERMALINK

Let's have fun with statistics.

34% of repubs think the pill is abortion
76% think abortion is murder
91% are in favor of the death penalty

What percentage believe that using the pill should be punished by death?

Posted by: DK on February 2, 2010 at 8:30 PM | PERMALINK

I'm not gonna hold my breath waiting for David Broder, Fred Hiatt, Ruth Marcus, Richard Cohen, and the rest of the WaPo's cheerleaders of bipartisanship to take note of this poll, or the reality that it illustrates.

In a world where our Versailles court actually took an interest in what the real world looked like, they'd be the true target audience of this research. But there's no way it's gonna dent their thinking, assuming they even hear of it.

Posted by: low-tech cyclist on February 2, 2010 at 8:50 PM | PERMALINK

They may not be able to govern, but they can sure as hell rewrite the entire nation's science textbooks!!
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2010/1001.blake.html

My guess is that History texts will be next.

Posted by: mezon on February 2, 2010 at 10:05 PM | PERMALINK

I hear banjos. Sounds like they're dueling....

Posted by: Swede on February 2, 2010 at 10:14 PM | PERMALINK

What is most frightening of all is the massive number of those polled on virtually every question whose response is, "I don't know." This is a party rather equally divided between people with fervently held if largely erroneous beliefs and those who don't have a f....ing clue!

Posted by: dweb on February 2, 2010 at 11:17 PM | PERMALINK

Having said that, it is really striking that coverage of actual progressive Democrats is almost nonexistent on this blog. Certainly, Steve gives FAR more attention and blog space to the likes of Sarah Palin than to, for example, Dennis Kucinich.

This is true, but consider: most progressives I assume are fairly well informed people. We already know what Kucincich, et al, are doing. The important thing that Steve and others are doing is keeping an eye on the right wing; most of us find these people to be horrible Americans and hideous people and all of our lives would be unquestionably more enjoyable if they would just go away. But they won't, and they're dangerous. Hence, it's important to keep reporting on the pernicious things they're up to.

Posted by: electrolite on February 3, 2010 at 9:53 AM | PERMALINK

Why do so many people come to this site and bitch about what Steve does or does not cover?

I mean, they claim to be so incredibly super-duper committed, yet can't seem to start their own blog -- a place where they can cover the issues they think no one else is.

Instead, they just whine like children about content on other sites that doesn't match their standards. Not sure if they're not willing to put forth the work, or are just too cowardly to expose their own thoughts to the type of criticism they dish out to others, but it's pretty damn pathetic.

WordPress and Blogger are both 100% free -- so get crackin', or quityerbitchin.

Posted by: Mark D on February 3, 2010 at 10:42 AM | PERMALINK

What has been the GOP pundit reaction to this? I've yet to see it discussed in The Corner.

Posted by: South Florida Lawyers on February 3, 2010 at 11:39 AM | PERMALINK
More than a third of Republicans think Obama's a born furriner. Funny. That means a solid majority of Republicans DON'T.

We might feel less "alarmist" if your statements were actually true. Sadly, they are not. Every single one of your statements is factually false, indicating that you either did not read the poll or did not understand it.

Posted by: PaulB on February 3, 2010 at 12:46 PM | PERMALINK




 

 

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