February 7, 2010
GOOD SEATS, STILL AVAILABLE.... The NYT briefly mentioned attendance numbers at the right-wing Tea Party convention in Nashville.
The convention had gathered here to try to turn the activism of the Tea Party rallies over the last year into actual political power. Her speech was the keynote event of the convention, and the big draw for many of the 600 people who had paid $549 to attend -- another 500, organizers said, paid $349 just to see for her speech alone.
I've seen competing totals -- ABC News said there were "nearly" 600 activists on hand for the event -- but let's just go ahead and round up, and say there were 600 people who showed up.
Maybe it's just me, but doesn't that seem like pretty weak turnout?
Granted, there was a controversy within the "movement" about the nature of the event, its organizers, and its profit margin. It seems likely that the crowd could have been larger were it not for ticket prices and the "sketchy" nature of the convention.
But even after acknowledging this relevant context, what we're left with is an event with 600 participants and a grand total of zero current House members, senators, or governors. There were, by some estimates, 200 journalists on hand to cover this convention, creating a bizarre dynamic -- one reporter for every three participants.
It's all terribly odd. The first Netroots Nation gathering (the conference formally known as Yearly Kos) had 1,400 attendees. The Tea Party convention had less than half this total.
The media attention seems a little disproportionate to what, by all appearances, was an underwhelming get-together.
—Steve Benen 9:20 AM
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Don't worry. The right wing nuts and their media enablers will spin these numbers into the tens of thousands.
Posted by: danno ranno on February 7, 2010 at 9:30 AM | PERMALINK
And 3 posts this morning on Political Animal to boot!
Posted by: lou on February 7, 2010 at 9:31 AM | PERMALINK
And don't forget, the Opryland Hotel is HUGE with tons of convention space. If there had been demand, they could have found space easily.
Posted by: TR on February 7, 2010 at 9:32 AM | PERMALINK
600 patriots is still impressive, considering the recession.
Also I know many delegates didn't make it to the final event because they were still hung over from the tailgate party. But they will still be buying the video of Governess Palin's speech.
Posted by: Al on February 7, 2010 at 9:38 AM | PERMALINK
A manufactured event, designed to get air time on TV--I wish I could be bothered enough to come up with the analogy--maybe the time when they trot out the film/photo op airliner exit ramp for the President that no one else has used since 1975.
It's a fake event that might look real on TV. But which enterprising TV reporter will start interviewing some of the masses of other reporters trying so hard to make it an event?
Or look around Nashville and find say, a quilters' convention with ten times the attendance?
Posted by: Steve Paradis on February 7, 2010 at 9:45 AM | PERMALINK
So, all totaled, the event took in $229400. And how much of that went to Palin to speak? Subtract that, and the cost of booking the room, and boy, they raked in a lot of cash to help their candidates win elections!
Posted by: LewScannon on February 7, 2010 at 9:46 AM | PERMALINK
Comparing this to the first YearlyKos event seams odd. The firs Tea Parties were last year, some of which had thousands of participants...
Posted by: Rob on February 7, 2010 at 9:51 AM | PERMALINK
"Governess Palin's"
Pay attention troll, she quit halfway through her term. That makes her Governless Palin. So what was the proportion of minorities at this big event?
Posted by: Dave on February 7, 2010 at 10:01 AM | PERMALINK
The MSM just love to pump up right-wing noise, and downplay or ridicule progressive gatherings or protests.
Posted by: neil b on February 7, 2010 at 10:01 AM | PERMALINK
The media attention seems a little disproportionate to what, by all appearances, was an underwhelming get-together.
And yet here you are, covering it for the third post today...
Posted by: Bernard HP Gilroy on February 7, 2010 at 10:02 AM | PERMALINK
The NPR headline on the Teabugger conference was "Palin Electrifies Tea Party Convention In Nashville". I don't recall a headline "Daily Kos Founder Electrifies Yearly Kos Convention".
Posted by: bob h on February 7, 2010 at 10:05 AM | PERMALINK
"The media attention seems a little disproportionate to what, by all appearances, was an underwhelming get-together."
Hmmmm. Why would that be?
Posted by: Dems lose huge in 2010 on February 7, 2010 at 10:19 AM | PERMALINK
I think the first Netroots Nation was YearlyKos and it drew about 900 people, or so I've read.
Posted by: msmolly on February 7, 2010 at 10:23 AM | PERMALINK
The media coverage of Teabagger-mania last summer was through the roof, yet every town hall meeting, every rally was sparcely populated. Oh they came in tight with their cameras to give the impression of a larger crowd, but as soon as the camera moved all pulled back the truth was clear.
The Tea bagger movement is a corporate creation to advance a big business agenda. The media lapdogs are just doing their duty.
Posted by: Saint Zak on February 7, 2010 at 10:52 AM | PERMALINK
...a bizarre dynamic -- one reporter for every three participants...
Um, isn't this pretty much how every "right-wing protest movement" gets covered?
Posted by: charles on February 7, 2010 at 10:58 AM | PERMALINK
gee, there's "something" in our society desiring to create a huge right wing, ignorant and angry mob of political activists...
i wonder what that "something" is...
Posted by: neill on February 7, 2010 at 11:11 AM | PERMALINK
This past summer, some pretty well-known knitters organized the first (and so far only) Sock Summit convention. They had 30,000 people vying for 1800 spaces when they opened the on-line registration.
That's right, you had more than twice as many people show up to knit socks than showed up for the Tea Party convention, and at a pretty similar cost, too.
Posted by: Mnemosyne on February 7, 2010 at 11:54 AM | PERMALINK
maybe al meant "governess" in an S&M kinda way.
Posted by: mellowjohn on February 7, 2010 at 12:26 PM | PERMALINK
The numbers are less important that what happens after. As a cautionary tale, I point you to a concert the Sex Pistols gave very early in their career. It was attended by about 37 people. But it's estimated that each of those 37 went on to start a band.
Posted by: Bat of Moon on February 7, 2010 at 12:34 PM | PERMALINK
Well gosh - I was watching Fair and Balanced Faix nooze this morning and they assured me that it had been a real success and that Sarah had SLAMMED Presnit Obama. That's all I need to know
Posted by: johnr on February 7, 2010 at 1:26 PM | PERMALINK
Steve Benen wrote: "It's all terribly odd. The first Netroots Nation gathering (the conference formally known as Yearly Kos) had 1,400 attendees. The Tea Party convention had less than half this total. The media attention seems a little disproportionate ..."
If it really seems "terribly odd" to you that the half-dozen giant corporations that own and control virtually all of the mass media in America use that power to marginalize, exclude and ignore progressive grassroots politics, and to legitimize, promote and build up a fake, phony, corporate-sponsored, pseudo-ideological "Astro-Turf" fraud consisting of weak-minded, ignorant, mean-spirited, brainwashed stooges of right-wing talk radio, well, I hardly know what to tell you.
It doesn't seem terribly odd to me at all. It seems terribly normal.
Posted by: SecularAnimist on February 7, 2010 at 1:28 PM | PERMALINK
"As a cautionary tale, I point you to a concert the Sex Pistols gave very early in their career. It was attended by about 37 people. But it's estimated that each of those 37 went on to start a band."
Posted by: Bat of Moon at 12:34 PM
Seems like an apt comparison. More pissed off people that couldn't play their instruments creating spinoffs that were noisy, obnoxious and short lived.
And maybe someone can even name a handful of those offshoots of musical nihilism but I doubt if many of their out of tune notes and screams are coming out of speakers today.
It was great that real punks wanted to go down spitting and choking on their own bile and vomit. Good on 'em. The one's they were hardest on were their own tattooed, chained, punctured and anemic selves. Not many bystanders who weren't in that little world gave a damn.
Never Mind the Bollocks, Here's the Teabaggers. Ha-Ha. That's perfect.
Posted by: burro on February 7, 2010 at 2:49 PM | PERMALINK
Bizarre. We're killing our oceans, but you won't get 200 journalists to pay attention to that. They WILL, however, show up to a manufactured political rally.
Posted by: Speed on February 7, 2010 at 4:09 PM | PERMALINK
Less than a town-hall meeting in a blue state. A free and fair media would ignore this movement henceforth. But they are actually the ones pushing it.
Posted by: Sparko on February 7, 2010 at 4:56 PM | PERMALINK
"Up to 2 million" includes the number 600.
So attendance was up to 2 MILLION!!!!
Posted by: rewinn on February 7, 2010 at 8:17 PM | PERMALINK
Hey! I go to the American Geophysical Union meeting every fall in San Francisco - about 11,000 people! How about some coverage? We'd love 200 reporters !!!!
Posted by: bigwisc on February 7, 2010 at 10:30 PM | PERMALINK
"Up to 2 million" includes the number 600.
So attendance was up to 2 MILLION!!!!
Posted by: rewinn on February 7, 2010
That might be pushing it, but I wouldn't be surprised if FOX News footage cut to a certain winter inauguration not so long ago or perhaps even a summer TEA rally in D.C. to show the overwhelming attendance. At a bare minimum, they will include the 200 journalists, their camera crews, and security in the grand total, which will put the confab in the "thousands".
Posted by: oh well on February 7, 2010 at 10:32 PM | PERMALINK
Hey! I go to the American Geophysical Union meeting every fall in San Francisco - about 11,000 people! How about some coverage? We'd love 200 reporters !!!!
Isn't it enough that they fly in hookers from Vegas for the week?
Posted by: Davis X. Machina on February 7, 2010 at 10:34 PM | PERMALINK
I'm tempted to reveal that a million cheap tea party types gathered on a hillside near Nashville and Palin came to speak. Maybe pass some smoked salmon and baguettes around, too. Of course not a bit of trash, not even a gum wrapper, was left behind. And the Media ignored it, just as the media ignored the million tea partiers on the Mall a while back.
Posted by: David Martin on February 7, 2010 at 11:41 PM | PERMALINK
And don't forget, the Opryland Hotel is HUGE with tons of convention space. If there had been demand, they could have found space easily.
Excellent point. The damn place is like a whole separate universe. They have about 3000 rooms, to start with.
You'd think they could come up with at least 600 lunatic Birthers.
Posted by: Dixie_Flyer on February 8, 2010 at 1:18 AM | PERMALINK
Weeks and weeks of noise about this event and only 600 people showed up? That's fuckin' *retarded*.
Posted by: hawiken on February 8, 2010 at 1:41 AM | PERMALINK
Greenwald, as usual (IMO), has some interesting things and RW hypocrisy to point out
and also linked to a local blogger at the Nashville Post ..
Beginning Of The End: Sarah Palin Hijacks The Tea Party Movement
clip:
"Sarah Palin didn’t give a tea party speech last night. She gave a partisan Republican address. It was a purely political speech designed to position her for a presidential run in 2012 or 2016. Period. She wasn’t there to celebrate the organic nature of a movement she had nothing to do with creating. She was there to co-opt the name and claim the brand as hers. And she did."
Beginning Of The End: Sarah Palin Hijacks The Tea Party Movement
Posted by: Dixie_Flyer on February 8, 2010 at 2:08 AM | PERMALINK
given her track record..
i am sure the tea baggers were happy that palin was able to complete her speech...
Posted by: mr. irony on February 8, 2010 at 7:50 AM | PERMALINK
I believe the relatively high-cost, low-turn-out scenario was predesigned to be that way. The repubs have taken some heat over the tea-baggers because so many of them are legitimately insane. The high cost of the event kept the insane at home but ultimately will not alienate them. Meanwhile, the event also allowed tea-bagging planners to identify 600 VERY important people: republican tea-baggers with MONEY.
It was an absolute win-win of the highest order for the republicans. Minimum crazy/maximum exposure. And a participant list that will be worth millions and millions of dollars over the next two years.
Posted by: Chrenson on February 8, 2010 at 7:57 AM | PERMALINK
Burro: maybe someone can even name a handful of those offshoots of musical nihilism but I doubt if many of their out of tune notes and screams are coming out of speakers today.
I dunno, man. Joy Division, New Order, Electronic, The Happy Mondays, The Smiths [Morrissey was reportedly there], New Musical Express have all left some mark on the face of modern alternative music. Many are still heard today and/or are covered by other bands.
I do find it ironic that your descriptions of the punk movement matches the descriptions of early rockers [like: The Beatles, Elvis, Rolling Stones, The Kinks, The Who [see the Super Bowl], Springsteen, Dylan, Little Richard, Led Zeppelin, Jerry Lee Lewis, The Everly Brothers, etc. etc. etc.] made by old people in their day. Granted, the Sex pistols ain't The Beatles. But their influence on those few in attendance in Manchester, and ultimately popular music since, cannot be over estimated. Green Day, Pearl Jam, Nirvana [for god's sake], and on and on and on.
Posted by: chrenson on February 8, 2010 at 8:59 AM | PERMALINK
Peggy Noonan was on Morning Joe this morning and said there were 1000 attendees.
Posted by: edavis on February 8, 2010 at 9:42 AM | PERMALINK