February 22, 2010
GOP STILL WON'T TAKE 'YES' FOR AN ANSWER.... If you check out the newly-reworked website for the White House's health care reform plan, there's a banner that reads, "Putting Americans In Control of Their Health Care." Underneath it are four areas of interest, including "Republican Ideas."
It's tempting to think that the "Republican Ideas" section would be the area in which the White House blasts GOP critics of reform and mocks them for not even trying to create a comprehensive reform package. Of course, the opposite is true. The headline on this page reads, "Republican Ideas Included in the President's Proposal."
It's clear that the American people want health insurance reform. They aren't interested in Democratic ideas or Republican ideas. They're interested in the best ideas to reduce costs, guarantee choices and ensure the highest quality care. They're interested in ideas that will put them back in control of their own health care.
Throughout the debate on health insurance reform, Republican concepts and proposals have been included in legislation. In fact, hundreds of Republican amendments were adopted during the committee mark-up process. As a result, both the Senate and the House passed key Republican proposals that are incorporated into the President's Proposal. [...]
In addition to the Republican ideas already included in the legislation that's passed the House and the Senate, the President's Proposal incorporates a number of additional proposals that were included in Republican plans that focus on combating waste, fraud and abuse in government.
The President remains open to other policies as well. And the purpose of the Bipartisan Summit is to review all ideas and ensure that the best ideas are included in the plan.
The page includes a lengthy list of Republican proposals that have already been incorporated into the package, and which the president supports.
Now, this isn't exactly new. The Republicans' "Solutions for America" page lists four health care planks -- and the basic structure of literally all four is already included in the Democratic plan.
But this hasn't made a difference because -- you guessed it -- Republicans don't actually want to solve the problem. The only way to satisfy GOP demands on health care policy is to kill the bill and let the problem get worse.
So, what's the point? It's about shaping the debate. Reality should matter, at least a little, when considering GOP talking points, and when Republicans and their allies claim that the reform proposal is "partisan" and that GOP ideas have been "ignored," they're lying.
When it comes to influencing public attitudes, Americans' sense of fairness leads them to think a good comprehensive package would include ideas from both parties. Well, in this case, that's exactly what Democrats are offering.
—Steve Benen 1:35 PM
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And the Democrats still won't do anything about it.
SSDD.
Posted by: doubtful on February 22, 2010 at 1:43 PM | PERMALINK
The american electorate is too stupid. Once Fox Noise gets a hold of this Democrat move they'll lie through the roof that it's all a socialist plot.That the GOP never said anything akin tto what is posted there. It's all a commie rat fink lie. I'd bet a weeks salary. Nauseating...
Posted by: stevio on February 22, 2010 at 1:43 PM | PERMALINK
The electorate is stupid, yes, but the media have totally failed.
And for some reason, the Dems just can't learn.
Posted by: Dems lose huge in 2010 on February 22, 2010 at 1:45 PM | PERMALINK
Is the republican plan online yet?
Posted by: Joan on February 22, 2010 at 1:45 PM | PERMALINK
Defeating HCR at any cost seems so central to the Republican reason for being that you have to conclude that the 45,000 preventable deaths each year from lack of coverage and the countless bankrupticies are the price we must pay so the Republican Party may live.
Posted by: bob h on February 22, 2010 at 1:49 PM | PERMALINK
"Throughout the debate on health insurance reform, Republican concepts and proposals have been included in legislation. In fact, hundreds of Republican amendments were adopted during the committee mark-up process."
That explains all the shitty parts, but I understand why they are saying this.
Posted by: bdop4 on February 22, 2010 at 1:55 PM | PERMALINK
Repub from Virginia (Marshall) says that handicapped children are born to mothers who aborted
a previous pregnancy as God's punishment to the mother. Guess he is saying Palin aborted a baby before trig.
These crazies are also trying to stop any funding for planned parenthood,the sickness of these people never ceases to amaze.
Posted by: JS on February 22, 2010 at 1:59 PM | PERMALINK
Reason #13 that we should always elect a democrat as president:
When a republican is elected president, we know with absolute certainty that the American worker is going to get screwed. When we elect a democrat as president, we can pretend to be surprised when we learn that the American worker is going to get screwed!
The Obomination proudly proclaims that he incorporates republican ideas. The Obomination continues to strive for bipartisanship.
The American worker gets requirements to purchase health care insurance. The health care industry gets assurances that there will continue to NOT be competition in markets. The American worker supports a public option. The Obomination takes it away. The American worker needs a single payer system. The Obomination takes it off the table before 'negotiations'.
Is the Obomination anything other than a slightly less tainted version of the DLC/Dino/Rethug-Lite Billy Bob Clinton? Will 'Health Care Reform' turn out to be anything other than a federal mandated increasing of corporate profits and screwing of the American worker?
Posted by: SadOldVet on February 22, 2010 at 2:05 PM | PERMALINK
People are loss averse. Months ago, the Dems should have reframed the debate around what Americans will lose if the House bill is abandoned. They can still make that pivot.
Posted by: David Steven on February 22, 2010 at 2:09 PM | PERMALINK
When the Senate allowed for "reasonable" caps on annual coverage by insurance companies in the HCR bill was that a Republican plank?
Posted by: some guy on February 22, 2010 at 2:10 PM | PERMALINK
The page includes a lengthy list of Republican proposals that have already been incorporated into the package, and which the president supports.
This is glorious. Simply glorious. Now, the Republicans can go all beserker about how they're never, ever, ever-not-in-a-million-years going to cooperate with teh Obama---and Obama gets them with "but you already have, little ones".
I predict Republican-v-Republican gladiator fights by the Ides of March!
Posted by: S. Waybright on February 22, 2010 at 2:10 PM | PERMALINK
UP or DOWN vote also applies to left-bloggers and commentators. This is the bill; are you in favor of it, or are against it? If 50 Senators want a public option, then let them amend it.
It doesn't matter why you think the bill is crummy -- if you're against it, then your allies are Cantor, Boehner and McConnell.
And it is definitely too late for talking about poor message discipline from Democrats while trashing the most important Democratic bill of the moment.
Posted by: tom in ma on February 22, 2010 at 2:11 PM | PERMALINK
Reality should matter, at least a little, when considering GOP talking points...
I know you are, but what am I?
...they're lying.
And don't tell me that "reality" doesn't matter to them either! Oh noes!
'Tis a good heart y'have, Stevie-boy, but y'r railin' aginst the tide. Public discussion of governance is nothing more than dueling megaphones (some of them shaped remarkably like humans) playing recorded messages, and thanks to the Roberts Court, it's only gonna get worse.
I really think Rove was on to something. Keep the base revved up, and turn them out on Election Day. None of the rest matters any more.
Posted by: bleh on February 22, 2010 at 2:19 PM | PERMALINK
After all is said and done and if the legislation is passed, I really do hope the sausage is palatable.
Posted by: sparrow on February 22, 2010 at 2:56 PM | PERMALINK
Steve, once the Democrats adopt a Republican't idea it is no longer a Republican'ts (or conservative idea).
Like 'Advanced Directives - Death Panels',
'Individual Mandates - Living Taxes',
and '100% Medicare Advantage reimbursement rates - Medicare Reductions'.
So of course once Congress and the White House adopt a Republican't idea, the Republican'ts disown it. It's like they found out their ideas 'turned gay'.
Posted by: Lance on February 22, 2010 at 3:25 PM | PERMALINK
If not one Mainstreet Republican without adequate health care bothers to speak up, that should speak volumes.
Half this nation would rather toe the GOP party line than go against it, and have useless teabag rallies, and be led like sheep by the self-serving (Fox and Rush and Sarah), and Take Back America on the most abstract of terms instead of asking their representatives to vote for health care, health care that would improve their very lives?
I believe equating the electorate with stupid is fair and balanced.
Posted by: Not America Anymore on February 22, 2010 at 5:12 PM | PERMALINK