It's almost 11 am EST and we still have 18 Beck-related posts to meet the daily quota.

Can you name a "real news outlet with professional standards.."? I cannot. There are no more; the era of news is dead. The concept that accuracy matters is dead.

There is no more a common baseline of facts from which everyone must deal. Facts still exist of course, but there are no credible outlets.

NEWS FLASH ...... NEWS FLASH ......

"Blenn Geck's crying is reheased"

duh.

I can appreciate the repugnance of the Repugnant-aligned FOX News, and the lack of sympathy for the anti-Beckers there. I really can.

Beck is an unscrupulous nihilist and solipsist, which, of course, makes him a huge success in this country. FOX News is about as legit as Pravda was, back in the day.

But in my view, this Glenn Beck character is hardly a more disreputable character in any sense of the term, frankly, than a Wolf Blitzer, or any of the other sleek, narcissistic goofballs on that idiot box. The teevee is a disease.

Welcome to neill's black and white world.

I wonder if anyone at Fox ever thinks about having to go to another outlet. Would anyone else ever hire Douchee?

Wake up and smell the network.

"...some of whom say they believe he uses distorted or inflammatory rhetoric that undermines their credibility."

Nws flash to "Journalists" at FUX Noise: YOU HAVE NO CREDIBILITY!

The only reason FUX Noise is rated so high is because they have captured the "loser, don't have a job, old fogey" demographic that has no life and wastes it away watching fucking TV when they should be out enjoying their lives like the rest of the reality based and sane community.

Try watching some not-for-profit broadcasting for an alternate view of reality. LINK-TV (Amy Goodman's Democracy Now!, on DISH 9410) or FSTV, (Thom Hartmann on Dish 9415), for instance.

@citizen_pain

I was about to quote that wonderful phrase from Kurtz's article. "...some of whom say they believe..." Ha Ha Ha.

Factoid of the day...

neill: The teevee is a disease...

NYT: Children Watch More TV Than Ever

If there is a practical limit to the amount of television a child can watch, we have not yet discovered it. Nielsen reported last week that children ages 2 to 5 spent nearly 25 hours a week watching television, the highest figure on record. They spent an additional seven weekly hours watching DVDs, playing video games, and watching TiVo-style time-shifted television.

citizen_pain - glass houses and all of that. i could say the same about people who read & posts on blogs.

...Not to put too fine a point on it, but these folks work at Fox News. Any sane observer already knows that the network is a Republican propaganda outlet, a detail the outlet makes no real effort to hide. ...
Unless you are bold enough to use their "Fair and Balanced" signature unattributed or unlicensed .
According to the "Gospel of Murdoch" he owns large swaths of the English language and shares ownership of ones and zeroes with another mild mannered monopolist and neo oligarch .
Oh , lookout Senator Franken , you may be deep into the horror , the horror .
P.S.
What a poor time to defend Wolf Blitzer , really .

Can you name a "real news outlet with professional standards.."?

I'd proffer that the McClatchy Company is pretty solid. They were running 'old-school' journalism articles during the Bush years (and calling them out regularly), and were of course never referenced in any MSM outlet.

The idea that the folks who comprise the Fox News viewership are comparable to other groups of American citizens is a novel idea to me .

Inkadu sounds like you should give that advice to your friends at FUX noise.

You don't really want to compare you average progressive blog reader to your average FUX Noise viewer, do you???

Can you name a "real news outlet with professional standards.."

PBS Newshour.

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The timing is interesting: As soon as Beck attacks Christian churches, the network starts to distance itself. They were willing to tolerate monetary loses for his other incendiary attacks. But, he has apparently gone too far now.

Just keep bumping your gums Glenn. Its only a matter of time, buddy!

"...a vice president was assigned 'to help keep an eye on that program' and review its content in advance."

Just like Howard Stern's Pig Vomit!

Don't take this too seriously. Kurtz is married to a paid Republican operative, and he himself is a reliable purveyor of Republican talking points. By publishing an article saying that serious Fox journalists are worried about Beck, what Kurtz is really claiming is that there are serious Fox journalists who have a respectable reputation.

Jon Stewart has been demonstrating lately that Fox spreads the exact same propaganda during their self-declared "hard news" hours as they do during "opinion" hours. There are people working at Fox who once did serious journalism, but now they work at Fox.

Howie, Howie, Howie...

Surely thou jest!

To refer to Fox Noise and journalism in the same article displays the Fox Fear that Howie and the Villagers have!

To refer to the White House speaking the truth about Faux News being a reich-wing, rethugnican propaganda outlet as being "White House criticism that Fox is not really a news organization" shows the world that Howie himself has a reckless disregard for the truth!

I remember being a young journalist and willing to work at the Manchester Union Leader - an unapologetic Republican newspaper. They also covered more stories and broke more stories than other newspapers. I don't know if it is still a "must read" anymore for Granite Staters (all newspapers have lost importance), but I would not paint with too broad a brush.

What is 50 otherwise-unemployable Faux Snooze staffers at the unemployment office?

A good start.

"I imagine it must be difficult for someone interested in a career in journalism to see their employer's brand defined by one clown's deranged stupidity. But I'm afraid it's hard to be sympathetic towards those who choose to work at Fox News, and are now worried about distorted or inflammatory rhetoric undermining their credibility as media professionals."

If anyone who works for Fox News is worried about their credibility as journalists they are the most naive people on earth. Their reputations were branded the day decided to work for Fox. What Fox is about is the return of the partisan press which existed for long time in this country. It's no different than Otis Chandler's old Los Angeles Times or Col. McCormick's old Chicago Tribune (or the Boston Globe on the other side of the ledger). This is not about gathering news. This is about putting the news through a certain point of view in order to sell it to sizeable niche audience that advertisers see as consistent and reliable for their products. Glenn Beck is no different than Bill O'Reilly or Sean Hannity or Mike Huckabee in this manner. If he's not a "team" player it's because he is in a position where he doesn't have to be, and there's nothing Fox can do about it short of getting rid of him.

If that's a problem for some "news professionals", tough. You should have known exactly what you were getting into when signed on the dotted line. Fox is not defined by the news it gathers, it is defined by the way it tells it and sells it. Otherwise it would not exist in the first place.

Unlike some liberal who still whine about "objectivity" that never really existed to begin with, I have no problem with this. Fox is what it is and because of this, I know what I'm getting and I don't choose to watch neocon news. In fact, I put it out of sight and mind. I don't care if that means they can't tell a story straight. People looking for "objective" news should not be watching Fox in the first place.

Beck is a self described "rodeo clown" and it's the most apt description. Not because he is stupid and says clownish things, which he does ad nauseum, but because he does the rodeo clown's job. He distracts the bull by becoming the target while the rider rider limps away. We're the bull, Beck's the clown and the busted up rider is the discredited Republican party. Stop going for the clown and stomp those fuckers.

@ Sean Scallon

I think you paint with too broad a brush.
I was a big fan of the Globe (the newspaper version, not the supermarket tabloid) in the glory days. And while its quite true that the editorial and op-ed pages were unabashedly liberal - anti-war, anti-Nixon, later on anti-Carter - their news pages were as straight and objective as it was possible to be.

By the way, that was also true of the Times and WaPo in those days.

As another poster says, even the Union Leader, which put editorials on the front page, kept their news noses pretty clean.

Reading this article, I was surprised that some people at Fox consider themselves journalists.

The, "BECK NEWS CHANNEL" sums it up rather nicely.

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