March 15, 2010
AN ODD DEFINITION OF 'SPIN'.... On ABC's "This Week" yesterday, David Axelrod told Jake Tapper that Sen. Scott Brown's (R-Mass.) health reform bashing is rather ironic. Brown, Axelrod said, "comes from a state that has a health care format in his state that is similar to the one we're trying to enact here. People in his state are overwhelmingly in support of it. He voted for it and said he wouldn't repeal it. So we're just trying to give the people in America the same opportunities that the people in Massachusetts have -- to get health insurance at a price they can afford."
Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) rejected the premise out of hand.
"No way in the world is what they did in Massachusetts like what we're about to do in Washington. They didn't cut Medicare when they passed the bill in Massachusetts.... To suggest that Scott Brown is basically campaigning against the bill in Washington that is like the one in Massachusetts is complete spin."
Now, Graham's understanding of the basics of health care policy has always been rather tenuous, but this is just silly. The Democratic reform proposal is quite similar to the Massachusetts policy that Brown supported and Mitt Romney signed into law. And by "quite similar," I mean "almost identical."
Graham stresses the fact that Romney and Brown didn't "cut Medicare." Well, no, they didn't, but that's probably because state officials can't cut federal programs, even if they wanted to.
Besides, as Paul Krugman explained, this talking point doesn't really fit into the GOP framework anyway: "[T]hink about this a bit more: Republicans are saying that what makes Obamacare a socialist takeover, whereas Romneycare wasn't, is the fact that unlike Romney's plan, Obama's plan cuts government spending. Oh, Kay."
I realize why Graham has to rely on ... what's the word ... spin. After all, President Obama and congressional Democrats are advancing a reform plan that's exactly the kind of proposal that moderate Republicans -- back when they existed -- enthusiastically embraced. For Graham to acknowledge this would be to paint today's GOP as having moved aggressively to the far-right. And while that would be true, it'd also be inconvenient.
But dismissing reality altogether doesn't make the problem go away. That's not spin; that's just the facts.
—Steve Benen 1:15 PM
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We need to keep reminding voters why Republicans are against reform. They value the windfall profits of the insurance industry over the lives of actual human beings. I know Alan Grayson got into trouble with the MSM for stating as much, but these are the ethical bookends of this debate - profts vs human beings. I'm not sure what the hesitation is in framing the issue this starkly.
Posted by: walt on March 15, 2010 at 1:23 PM | PERMALINK
The Republicans can say anything they want. No facts are needed as the media does not challenge their inaccuracte statements. How will people know the truth? The one's that read the blogs only.
Posted by: Sharon on March 15, 2010 at 1:26 PM | PERMALINK
Am I the only one wondering why the lead WH spokesman wasn't able to counter Sen. Graham immediately after he made the statement? I thought it was Gregory's job to allow baseless spiu to go unchallenged, not the guy defending the administration's policies.
Add this to the ever-growing list of PR failures the Dems are responsible for .
Posted by: kiweagle on March 15, 2010 at 1:26 PM | PERMALINK
Beat me to it Sharon!
Posted by: Kiweagle on March 15, 2010 at 1:27 PM | PERMALINK
"Am I the only one wondering why the lead WH spokesman wasn't able to counter Sen. Graham immediately after he made the statement?" Axelrod was no longer there. So Graham could say whatever he wanted without fear of contradiction.
Posted by: wvng on March 15, 2010 at 1:34 PM | PERMALINK
Well, now that we know the bill is the same bill that a Republican passed in MA, can we talk about how to make it a lot better? If you ask anybody in MA about it, they will give you plenty of ideas to make it better.
Posted by: DR on March 15, 2010 at 1:37 PM | PERMALINK
To be fair in setting context about this issues themselves: there is a matter of principle that perhaps States should be doing such things instead of the Federal government. Hence one could argue that each State could try such things and still be against the Federal plan. This means "there exists" this argument as a game point, which is of course separate from either how good it is, or how sincere proponent X happens to be.
Posted by: Neil B on March 15, 2010 at 1:42 PM | PERMALINK
I support the health reform bill. But you edited out the part of Graham's statement where he seemed to complain about $500 billion in taxes.
Public statements never make sense if we simply omit the parts that make sense.
Posted by: bob somerby on March 15, 2010 at 1:44 PM | PERMALINK
"Am I the only one wondering why the lead WH spokesman wasn't able to counter Sen. Graham immediately after he made the statement?"
Sure. Go on record that a supposed "historic progressive achievement" is really Romneycare. That'll work.
Posted by: TJ on March 15, 2010 at 1:45 PM | PERMALINK
"Sure. Go on record that a supposed "historic progressive achievement" is really Romneycare. That'll work." - TJ
Yeah, except that he's now disavowing the program he helped create, so he's lost ownership rights on that one. That happens when you have no principles.
Posted by: bdop4 on March 15, 2010 at 1:50 PM | PERMALINK
There is little doubt that omitting language from a statement changes the statment . If we omit patent nonsense from a statement it presumably becomes less sensless .
Republicans have been remarkably irresponsible as stewards of the public trust . When this jaded ear hears a familiar republican refrain fear mongering tax inceases in a bill that offers only , as I understand it , modest tax burdens upon wealthier citizens , editing of standard republican knee jerk tax mongering may be comparable to removing double negatives to improving the meaning of larded talking points .
Posted by: FRP on March 15, 2010 at 2:11 PM | PERMALINK
The mainstream media won't touch this story, you watch, because it would make the Republicans look like hypocritical fools (which, of course, they are). Only Democrats are allowed to be publicly humiliated in the mainstream press. That is why they carried stories about the curvature of Bill Clinton's penis during Monicagate but never once mentioned the fact that George W. Bush had the longest criminal rap sheet of any American president!
Posted by: Sam Simple on March 15, 2010 at 2:27 PM | PERMALINK
They didn’t raise $500 billion on the American people when they passed the bill in Massachusetts. To suggest that Scott Brown is basically campaigning against the bill in Washington that is like the one in Massachusetts is complete spin .
This is the missing language , how is relevant implying that Massachusetts taxes Americans or that the commensurate taxes in Massachusetts are not comparable ?
I am afraid that Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) is a bit confusing , or confused here . I find that not having to suss through his tedious , or mendacious , language only increases my understanding .
Brown is basically campaigning against a bill that is more exactly like the present legislation up for consideration than it is even marginally different from . Not including Sen. Lindsey Graham's (R-SC) confusing language , which is distracting , to issue some boilerplate is increasing what little sense the poor senator is trying to make by removing the most porous peripheral piffle .
Posted by: FRP on March 15, 2010 at 2:29 PM | PERMALINK
Confucius say: "Man who listen with half an ear will believe a half truth. . ."
Posted by: DAY on March 15, 2010 at 2:37 PM | PERMALINK
Senator, I served with Confucius , I knew Confucius , Confucius was a friend of mine. Senator, you're no Confucius .
Posted by: FRP on March 15, 2010 at 2:44 PM | PERMALINK
"But dismissing reality altogether doesn't make the problem go away. That's not spin; that's just the facts."
Correction: That's just lying
Posted by: robert on March 15, 2010 at 3:15 PM | PERMALINK
And by the way, Senator Brown, your 15 minutes are just about up.
Posted by: bob h on March 15, 2010 at 3:39 PM | PERMALINK
It arguable that MA did in fact "cut Medicare" to finance RomneyCare. What they did was negotiate with the Feds to redirect Medicaid funds toward the subsidies for low-income insurance buyers.
It is actually a rather complicated story. The gist of it is well told in a report published in May of last year by the Massachusetts Taxpayers Foundation entitled Massachusetts Health Reform: The Myth of Uncontrolled Costs [Link to page where you can download a PDF.]
A good Republican cloth coat of a plan. Too bad Republicans have given up on cloth coats.
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