"When making pro-life decisions, I don't consult any of the facts."--Bart Stupak

I think it's safe to say that no Catholic Bishop is a true Christian... they just play one on the teevee...and elsewhere in the media.

Stupak is still saying no...what's his angle...what's his reasoning? Oops, I used reasoning and Stupak in the same sentence. I just answered my own question....

Re Stupak: he follows the radical right-wing bishops on abortion. They make what I heard a representative of the Catholic publication America call a "political" rather than a religious decision on this matter. Those guys on C Street are nuts.

You keep forgetting. It's the MEN (the bishops) who count in the Catholic church.

Its really great to know that the catholic church are getting more concerned about the health and safety reforms related to the people.This would surely bring a breadth of relief to people of every sect.
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Steve-I am a pro-choice democrat and I'm pro-life. Who the hell is anti-life? I'm insulted to be thrown in with the likes of Stupak. Lets stop calling anti-abortion, anti-choice, anti-women Democrats pro-life. Why are you agreeing to republican definitions?

They are not pro-life. They are anti-choice.

Let’s continue to turn up the heat on Rep. Lipinski, who is pro-life, to vote yes on health care reform.

Watch this video of a Mother’s Open Appeal to Congressman Lipinski, call his office, and then forward the video to all of your friends and encourage them to do the same.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfAXX...

D.C. Office - 202-225-5701
Chicago - 312-886-0481

Gee, I guess they wouldn't want to be "called out" on their total sociopathic hypocrisy or anything... Not that the msm would care to report it. Twinky is right, they're anti-choice not "pro" anything..

When trying to understand the positions taken by Catholic Church hierarchy, it is helpful to remember that they are not just anti-abortion, they are anti-contraception. Coitus interruptus is OK but a condom has the power to defeat the will of God.

Those bishops are going to be plenty mad that the rest of the American Catholic church is ignoring them. Ha, ha.

Coitus interruptus is OK but a condom has the power to defeat the will of God. -sceptic

I've always been amazed that the believers in an awesomely powerful God think his will could be thwarted by .05 millimeters of latex.

They are not pro-life. They are anti-choice.

This, yet again, Steve. As others have noted in other threads, characterizing these authoritarian misfits as "Pro-life" is buying into their narrative lock, stock and barrel. You're a better reporter than that.

Yes,language does matter. It's time to always refer to "pro-life" as "anti-choice" and those who would deny gays equal rights as "bigots". And btw, most politicians are not "public servants" but "self-serving power seekers". Most of them are not "leaders" either, who in their right mind would follow them anywhere.

"EVEN MORE COVER FOR PRO-LIFE DEMS...."

Because sacrificing women's freedoms on the alter of Corporate greed is what the Neo-Dems are all about these days....

Do I get a bridge with that Corporate insurance you are selling me, Benen?

Calling "pro-life" "anti-choice" is akin to saying "Democrat bill" instead of "Democratic bill". You disrespect your opponents so much you won't allow them their own choice of label. That's spiteful, and not a part of objective reporting.

You think you are being objective and fair, because you think "life" must imply every kind of life-affirming stance you can think of, and if someone does not adopt every such stance, they have no right to the label. But you are not being fair; there are lots and lots of "choices" that aren't supported by the "pro-choice" movement, are there not?

You can allow both sides some spin on their own label, or you can label them both in a neutral and accurate way, and call them "pro-abortion rights" and "anti-abortion rights". Otherwise you are just pushing your own slanted language.

Steve-I am a pro-choice democrat and I'm pro-life. Who the hell is anti-life?

Darkseid of Apokalips, natch.

Imagine this thought experiment between two people, A and B:

A: says to B, "There is a ghost behind you."
B: says to A, "No there isn't."
A: "Yes it is!
B: "Don't be foolish, there is no such thing as ghosts."
A: "OMG! Its getting closer!"
B: Rolling-eyes, B turns around and says, "I don't see anything."
A: Saying more loudly than ever to anyone within listening range, "SEE! If you really thought there was no ghost, you would have never turned around! Thats why we need anti-ghost legislation."

Now you know how Health Care Reform became hostage to abortion fears.

Um, Whick? This isn't an objective reporting magazine, much less blog. It's boldly partisan. Why are you trying to apply objective reporting ethics to a slanted site?