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March 31, 2010

QUOTE OF THE DAY.... A 60 Minutes/Vanity Fair poll released the other day found that 50% of respondents would be willing to support an openly-gay presidential candidate. The Family Research Council, a prominent religious right group with ties to the Republican leadership, suggested yesterday that President Obama may effectively (not literally) already be "our first gay president." (via Right Wing Watch)

[I]f it was argued during his two terms in office that Bill Clinton was "our first black President" because of his supposed liberal policies that would benefit African-Americans (though I'm not quite sure what President Clinton did, that he wasn't forced to do, that would benefit any minority except for Chinese monks with political donations to spend.) With that argument shouldn't Barack Obama already be our "first gay President" due to his liberal policies pushing the homosexual agenda?

The Family Research Council isn't saying President Obama is gay; it's saying President Obama might as well be considered gay, the same way Bill Clinton was considered black.

And the religious right wonders why it's so hard to take their movement seriously.

For the record, I continue to find it interesting to see the difference in impressions when it comes to Obama and his efforts on issues important to the LGBT community. On the one hand, some conservatives are prepared to label him our "first gay president" and are convinced that Obama "is pandering to the gay lobby."

On the other hand, many in the LGBT community see the White House as deeply disappointing, ignoring the issues that matter.

As Obama's presidency continues, I still think it's the latter group that will be satisfied. In his first year, the president has presented a package of domestic partnership benefits for federal workers, lifted the travel/immigration ban on those with HIV/AIDS, expanded hate-crime laws, addressed the diplomatic passport issue, issued a strong Pride Month proclamation, hosted a White House event to honor the 40th anniversary of the Stonewall riots, and taken the initial steps in ending "Don't Ask, Don't Tell." He's also publicly expressed his support for repealing the Defense of Marriage Act and making the Domestic Partners Benefit and Obligations Act law.

It's a start, and it's apparently enough to make major religious right groups publish foolish things.

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So now Obama is a foreign born, Muslim, gay terrorist? Did I miss any? It's so hard to keep up sometimes.

Posted by: JoeW on March 31, 2010 at 1:07 PM | PERMALINK

And of course it should be noted that the FRC's premise, as usual, is completely wrong. Morrisson's quote about Clinton as the first Black president was not about his policies but about the way that he was treated by his enemies which she felt was akin to the kind of disrespect that African American men could expect more routinely.

Posted by: brent on March 31, 2010 at 1:08 PM | PERMALINK

They won't accept it and won't take it.

It's a start, and it's apparently enough to make major religious right groups publish foolish things.

You ain't seen nothing yet. Wait until DADT goes the way of faux lesbian buggy whips. I expect teabaggers to urge nothing short of a military coup. They will make the transition as ugly and angry as they can. They will work overtime to divide and conquer our Armed Services. Their is a very bloody train wreck right around the corner up ahead...

Posted by: koreyel on March 31, 2010 at 1:09 PM | PERMALINK

That just goes to show how depraved these religious "leaders" are. They lie with aplomb - which is a sin, isn't it?

They don't give a rats ass about religion. They are a political outfit under the guise of religion, plain and simple.

Posted by: MsJoanne on March 31, 2010 at 1:14 PM | PERMALINK

Wait, I thought he was our first Nazi, communist, Kenyan, anti-Christ president. Maybe he has taken on too much.

Posted by: chrenson on March 31, 2010 at 1:16 PM | PERMALINK

well, he aint gay enough, god dammit...

Posted by: neill on March 31, 2010 at 1:18 PM | PERMALINK

History lesson! There is speculation that James Buchanan was our first gay President. Never married and shared a house with a man (one William Rufus King) for 15 years.

Posted by: Crgabe on March 31, 2010 at 1:21 PM | PERMALINK

On the other hand, many in the LGBT community see the White House as deeply disappointing, ignoring the issues that matter.

Exactly right. And having a faux-gay president doesn't fix it.

By the way, does anyone know where I can get a copy of The Homosexual Agenda? The religious right seems to have the only copy.

Posted by: Gaia on March 31, 2010 at 1:22 PM | PERMALINK

Gaia, if they showed you, they'd have to kill you. And with these folks, I would be very concerned. Politically driven religious deaths are as old as dirt. You'd be lucky to walk away only having a imprecatory prayer thrown down on your ass.

Posted by: MsJoanne on March 31, 2010 at 1:30 PM | PERMALINK

Whether crgabe is right about Buchanan or not, it's a pretty safe bet that among 44 men who have served as president, at least one was gay.

In this century, my money's on Nixon. Now that was one repressed cocksucker.

Posted by: Yellow Dog on March 31, 2010 at 1:33 PM | PERMALINK

Following this line of reasoning, Bush must have been our first "Sadomasochist President" because he supported the illegal use of Torture so often.

In keeping with this line of reasoning, Reagan must have been our first "Nihilist President" because of the depravity he often bravely showed to the poor and middle class.

Also, George senior must have been our first "Completely out-of-touch President" as he had no idea that people actually spent some of their time at grocery stores...

Posted by: stevio on March 31, 2010 at 1:33 PM | PERMALINK

The Homosexual agenda:

6:00 am Gym
8:00 am Breakfast (oatmeal and egg whites)
9:00 am Hair appointment
10:00 am Shopping
12:00 PM Brunch

2:00 PM
1) Assume complete control of the U.S. Federal, State and Local
Governments as well as all other national governments,
2) Recruit all straight youngsters to our debauched lifestyle,
3) Destroy all healthy heterosexual marriages,
4) Replace all school counselors in grades K-12 with agents of Colombian
and Jamaican drug cartels,
5) Establish planetary chain of "homo breeding gulags" where over-medicated
imprisoned straight women are turned into artificially impregnated baby
factories to produce prepubescent love slaves for our devotedly
pederastic gay leadership,
6) bulldoze all houses of worship, and
7) Secure total control of the INTERNET and all mass media for the
exclusive use of child pornographers.

2:30 PM Get forty winks of beauty rest to prevent facial wrinkles from
stress of world conquest
4:00 PM Cocktails
6:00 PM Light Dinner (soup, salad, with Chardonnay)
8:00 PM Theater
11:00 PM Bed (du jour)?

Posted by: flyonthewall on March 31, 2010 at 1:35 PM | PERMALINK

"Does Michelle know?"

Posted by: tsquared on March 31, 2010 at 1:47 PM | PERMALINK

Props flyonthewall!

I like the level of thought you put into that.

Posted by: mark on March 31, 2010 at 1:48 PM | PERMALINK

If you need a thing done , done well and in a timely way , seek a busy bee . Busy busy busy Bees may destroy our fair nation , with their busy busy busy a gender . That they do it well and on time is sweet surrender to the busy bee collateral construct , unintended consciousness .

Posted by: FRP on March 31, 2010 at 1:49 PM | PERMALINK

I get annoyed when I hear talk about the Homosexual Agenda. This occasionally grumpy middle aged gay man has a very simple agenda for America.

Life.
Liberty.
The pursuit of happiness.

Oh, and I personally take pleasure in destroying straight marriages by my very existence, but that's a side benefit. Something I do between shopping and brunch.

Posted by: eeyore on March 31, 2010 at 1:53 PM | PERMALINK

History lesson! There is speculation that James Buchanan was our first gay President. Never married and shared a house with a man (one William Rufus King) for 15 years.

Senator from the great state of Alabama and VP! So King may have been the first gay VP. Down here he is pretty much assumed to have been flaming gay. The "story" is he was appointed to the Senate to get him the hell out of Alabama.

(though I'm not quite sure what President Clinton did, that he wasn't forced to do, that would benefit any minority except for Chinese monks with political donations to spend.)

Besides just being a cheap attack and really badly written, wasn't Gore the one who had problems with the monks, who were Buddhist? Were they all Chinese?

Posted by: martin on March 31, 2010 at 1:56 PM | PERMALINK

By the way, does anyone know where I can get a copy of The Homosexual Agenda? The religious right seems to have the only copy.

I think flyonthewall above found it! Which is good because I wasn't sure what time of day we were supposed to commence the destruction of America.

Posted by: electrolite on March 31, 2010 at 2:00 PM | PERMALINK

I believe the members of the Family Research Council are our first gay Republicans.

And I'm literally calling them gay. Closeted, repressed, in denial, but gay.

Posted by: Gridlock on March 31, 2010 at 2:03 PM | PERMALINK

Best thread ever.

Next time I can drag myself to the gym at 6 a.m. (which is hard after a night of debauchery and a day of destroying marriages), I expect to see jazz hands and lip synching on every treadmill! And better outfits!

Posted by: Gaia on March 31, 2010 at 2:09 PM | PERMALINK

Off topic, but interesting bits of gossip about James Buchanan. From Wikipedia:

"For 15 years in Washington, D.C., prior to his presidency, Buchanan lived with his close friend, Alabama Senator William Rufus King. King became Vice President under Franklin Pierce. He became ill and died shortly after Pierce's inauguration, just four years before Buchanan became President. Buchanan and King's close relationship prompted Andrew Jackson to refer to King as "Miss Nancy" and "Aunt Fancy", while Aaron V. Brown spoke of the two as "Buchanan and his wife"."

So we've allegedly had a gay President AND a gay Vice President.

Posted by: eeyore on March 31, 2010 at 2:23 PM | PERMALINK
[I]f it was argued during his two terms in office that Bill Clinton was "our first black President" because of his supposed liberal policies that would benefit African-Americans

I'm pretty sure that was not argued, or at least that that was not what Toni Morrison was saying (surely, if that were the criteria, Lyndon Johnson would probably have been the "first black president").

Here's what Morrison actually said:

African-American men seemed to understand it right away. Years ago, in the middle of the Whitewater investigation, one heard the first murmurs: white skin notwithstanding, this is our first black President. Blacker than any actual black person who could ever be elected in our children's lifetime. After all, Clinton displays almost every trope of blackness: single-parent household, born poor, working-class, saxophone-playing, McDonald's-and-junk-food-loving boy from Arkansas.

The point Morrison was making was that Clinton, despite being white, "displays almost every trope of blackness." It had nothing to do with his policies, but with his personality and especially his background. Furthermore, she was writing not about how Clinton was the first black president, but about why Black Americans came so strongly to Clinton's defense during the Lewinsky scandal. Although she doesn't say so, the subtext would seem to be "Why did Black Americans come so strongly to Clinton's defense, given that he hadn't actually done very much for them?"

So, basically, McClusky is a moron who couldn't even be bothered to read the speech he linked to.

Posted by: John on March 31, 2010 at 2:38 PM | PERMALINK

Next time I can drag myself to the gym at 6 a.m. (which is hard after a night of debauchery and a day of destroying marriages), I expect to see jazz hands and lip synching on every treadmill! And better outfits!

Posted by: Gaia on March 31, 2010 at 2:09 PM

And don't forget the reruns of "Funny Girl" and "Mommie Dearest" on the gym teevees!

Posted by: electrolite on March 31, 2010 at 2:57 PM | PERMALINK

Yellow Dog: No, no, no! Nixon was the Cox-Sacker! I don't think he had enough human feeling left in his paranoid soul to be much of an anything-sexual by the time he reached the Presidency. And the only thing that turned him on was the thought of bombing Commies. When he got drunk (which he did frequently) Henry Kissinger would have to do damage control to prevent him from starting a nuclear war with Russia.

And then, to prove that those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it, we elected Bush. May Dog have mercy on us, because we'll need it.

Posted by: T-Rex on March 31, 2010 at 2:59 PM | PERMALINK

If he's our first gay President (Buchanan notwithstanding), who gets the toaster oven for hitting their recruiting quota?

flyonthewall, you left out 8): Redecorate every home in America that has Astroturf on the patio and bowling trophies on the TV and replace them with chintz and smoked-glass table tops.

(You can borrow my RHA; I have it on a CD-ROM for easy research.)

Posted by: Mustang Bobby on March 31, 2010 at 3:09 PM | PERMALINK

They lie with aplomb - which is a sin, isn't it?

They don't give a rats ass about religion. They are a political outfit under the guise of religion, plain and simple. - Ms Joanne

You might be right about the 'political' and the 'religious', but they are not sinners. You probably think that they are because of the ten commandments. But that's were you're wrong. The 9th commandment says:
Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.

Now, if you examine this closely, you will notice that there are at least two aspects in what the FRC has said about Obama, that protect them from having broken the 9th commandment. First, Obama is not their neighbour. Second, they did not bear false witness, as they did not say 'Obama is gay', they only said 'Obama acts as if he were gay'.

See, with the right kind of sophistry you can be christian as hell (if you don't mind me saying so) and yet do these kinds of things with a conscience that's as clean as a whistle.

Posted by: eserwe on March 31, 2010 at 4:25 PM | PERMALINK
it's apparently enough to make major religious right groups publish foolish things

The sun rising in the morning is enough to make them publish foolish things. It's what they do.

Posted by: noncarb on March 31, 2010 at 5:22 PM | PERMALINK

I'm not saying the FRC are a bunch of assholes, they just should be considered a bunch of assholes..

Posted by: Ken on March 31, 2010 at 8:29 PM | PERMALINK

"It's a start, and it's apparently enough to make major religious right groups publish foolish things."
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Good point, Steve, but seriously; how hard can that be?

Posted by: Ken on March 31, 2010 at 8:31 PM | PERMALINK

So what should Bush and Cheney be called...the "first (fill in the blank) president" and the "first (fill in the blank) vice president"?

I would offer my suggestions, but there'd be too much cussing involved.

Posted by: The Oracle on March 31, 2010 at 10:42 PM | PERMALINK




 

 

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