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April 1, 2010

GOP SENATOR: REPEAL 'NOT GOING TO HAPPEN'.... The Republican message gets a little more muddled.

U.S. Sen. Bob Corker said Wednesday that Republican efforts to repeal sweeping health care reform are futile, and instead promoted incremental fixes in a wide-ranging talk in Nashville.

In the immediate aftermath of the reform's passage, many of Corker's Republican colleagues, including 2008 presidential contender Sen. John McCain, have pledged to repeal the legislation. Corker described that as unlikely, given the reality of needing 67 votes in the Senate to overcome a presidential veto of repeal legislation.

"The fact is that's not going to happen, OK?" Corker told dozens of people at Vanderbilt University.

Corker's remarks come on the heels of Sen. Richard Burr's (R-N.C.) comments that he doesn't see a full repeal as a realistic option, either. "It may not be total repeal at the end of the day," Burr said in a radio interview. "It may be a series of fixes over the course of this bill getting enacted that allow us to change and possibly bend that cost curve down."

This continues to be a real problem for Republicans, most of whom know they're not going to repeal the Affordable Care Act, but a few too many of whom want to maintain the fiction to exploit gullible right-wing donors and manipulate easily-confused GOP voters.

But as we've seen repeatedly, Republicans are at their most effective when they're on the same rhetorical page. Right now, their message is a mess -- one large GOP contingent is promising to pursue a full repeal, even killing provisions that enjoy broad national support, while another large GOP contingent is arguing that the very idea is foolish.

Republicans are going to have figure this out eventually.

Keep in mind, when Corker asks, "The fact is that's not going to happen, OK?" the response from the Republicans' far-right base is, "No, it's not OK." The Club for Growth is still demanding a full repeal. Far-right blogs and talk radio are still demanding a full repeal. Newt Gingrich recently said on "Meet the Press" that "every Republican in 2010 and 2012 will run on an absolute pledge to repeal this bill."

There's some logic to the thinking -- Republicans have spent the last year insisting that the Affordable Care Act will destroy the country. In March, several GOP leaders described the new law as "Armageddon." More than a few prominent Republican voices have said the new law will literally lead to the deaths of innocent Americans.

With that in mind, when GOP senators suggest that some of Armageddon is probably fine, and that they're not going to work to undo a law that's the end of the world as we know it, the base is understandably unsatisfied.

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Fix it? Too bad they couldn't be bothered to actually work on it before it became law.

God, I hate Republicans. Good for nothing loafers collecting almost a quarter of a million dollars annually to do nothing. Now they want to do something?

Posted by: MsJoanne on April 1, 2010 at 8:08 AM | PERMALINK

At least Corker is telling the truth. One point.

Posted by: sue on April 1, 2010 at 8:10 AM | PERMALINK

Tea Party Loons don't want to hear arcane rules about why you can't repeal the bill- super majority, presidential veto, yada yada yada- just REPEAL THE DAMN BILL!*

Regarding their signs: Yelling is easy. Spelling is hard.

Posted by: DAY on April 1, 2010 at 8:11 AM | PERMALINK

The republicans will have a unified message soon. As soon as Frank Luntz determines the best language to use to fool the amerikan sheeple. It does take time to use focus groups to determine how to convince people that up is down.

"It's not what you say, it's what people hear."

Posted by: AmusedOldVet on April 1, 2010 at 8:12 AM | PERMALINK

Republicans will say everything, in order to please everybody---because they realize that there are not enough cushy guest-commentator positions at FOX to go around....

Posted by: S. Waybright on April 1, 2010 at 8:14 AM | PERMALINK

"But as we've seen repeatedly, Republicans are at their most effective when they're on the same rhetorical page."

Exactly.

Changing the subject a little, Dems should take a page out of their playbook and learn to get on the same rhetorical page in order to get our message across. The difference would be that Democratic rhetoric would have the advantage of being true.

Posted by: Chris on April 1, 2010 at 8:15 AM | PERMALINK

Day, yesterday at AmericaBlog, John Aravosis had a post up called Teabonics. It links to a gallery of teabagger signs from all over. Check it out. To quote many, many Teabaggers: your gonna love it.

(I'd give you a link but I'm on my iPhone.)

Posted by: MsJoanne on April 1, 2010 at 8:19 AM | PERMALINK

Hey, partial Armageddon could be part of the new GOP lexicon. That along with partial drilling, partial death squads, partial nuke treaty, partial bank regulation, and best of all partial intelligence which is something in short supply with these cretins. Nauseating...

Posted by: stevio on April 1, 2010 at 8:20 AM | PERMALINK

I am handing out lollipops for each and every "Republicans in Disarray" article we see from the Lame Stream Media (this of course excludes Keith and Rachel who are not lame by any stretch of the imagination).

My guess is there will be few to none. You'd think that this would be a bigger story, given the usual iron discipline of the GOP message machine. But of course, Democrats in Disarray is much more alliterative, and the refs have been worked so hard that they can barely set finger to keyboard to criticize the Goopers.

Posted by: Dave in DC on April 1, 2010 at 8:20 AM | PERMALINK

For decades the GOP has used and abused the Fundies and others on the extreme right for electoral purposes without delivering much in return. Now, they've riled up the loons to such an extent that the inmates have taken over the asylum and it's the old guard GOP leaders who have to jump through hoops to suit the rabble. I'm not nearly as pessimistic about Dem chances in the next elections as some. Keep passing legislation that solves the problems of most Americans and pisses off the tea baggers, then beat the the GOP over the head with their failure to satisfy the base.

Posted by: BillFromPA on April 1, 2010 at 8:21 AM | PERMALINK

Our uber-conservative friends would do well to repeal and replace the stupid happening over at their sister encampment - FOXNEWS! Then, they can work on doing the same for the Republican party! -Kevo

Posted by: kevo on April 1, 2010 at 8:26 AM | PERMALINK

Here's that link to Teabonic (signs in Teabagger speak):

http://www.americablog.com/2010/03/teabonic-teabaggers-command-of-english.html

Posted by: MsJoanne on April 1, 2010 at 8:26 AM | PERMALINK

I wonder if it is fair to compare the dead who are slain in defense of the far far right wing rhetoric , to the accumulating total of slaughter directly attributable to the insidious Affordable Care Act .
The good clean , sensible people , who , aware that this is the end times , might consider a running total comparable to the National Debt tote board .
There needs to be a way in which the crushing fear of things can be refocussed on how things never change , is exactly why they have changed .
Here is the church , here is the Steeple , and in the left wing DFH pews are the Sheeple . Sheeple , sigh , who in defense of their right to live , far far right wing saints magnanimously offer to remove those annoying government functions which deviously assist in that defense .

Posted by: FRP on April 1, 2010 at 8:27 AM | PERMALINK

It's time to start asking exactly what parts would be repealed or changed. Of course that will never be asked or mentioned because it requires policy to be stated. Even if the thugs get a majority in Congress, laws still require the President to sign or veto, including the pocket veto. Either work with Democrats, or the ACA is law until at least 2013.

Posted by: flyonthewall on April 1, 2010 at 8:28 AM | PERMALINK

I am surprised that they have not already put in a bill to repeal the death panels, after all, that is what they were fighting for!
I have been wondering why Obama decided to allow partial drilling for oil (except the obvious reason. ie to give repubs something else to divide them) and when I hear that the drilling offshore in Virginia will provide us with 6 days of oil, won't that reinforce Obama's statements that we must concentrate on alternate energy sources?

Posted by: JS on April 1, 2010 at 8:36 AM | PERMALINK

I have been reading all the signs in 'teabonic' and being English, I have one thing to say to teabaggers 'give us back our language'

Posted by: Joan on April 1, 2010 at 8:39 AM | PERMALINK

Some good Democrat has to get out there and offer a fixes bill. Maybe strengthening some of the good stuff. Maybe exending a Medicare buy in to folks over 55.

Posted by: Ron Byers on April 1, 2010 at 8:54 AM | PERMALINK

Jack Bruce and Pete Brown

Take it back, take it back, take that thing right out of here.
Right away, far away, take that thing right out of here.

I was going to put up the whole lyric , deciding that indulging wasn't as valiant as me .

Posted by: Prince Valiant on April 1, 2010 at 9:03 AM | PERMALINK

Corker's never gonna get any points from me, he engaged in some pretty sleazy race baiting during his last Senate campaign. Unless he's apologized for that, forget him.
Someone else pointed out that he was speaking at Vanderbilt, where the head of the university has endorsed HCR as a way to ease the burden on their hospital. He's just saying what one particular audience wants to hear, although it does happen to be true.

Posted by: Allan Snyder on April 1, 2010 at 10:27 AM | PERMALINK

I hope they manage to get rid of those death panels before my wife and I become grandparents.

Posted by: qwerty on April 1, 2010 at 11:02 AM | PERMALINK

I'm not so sure that once a new message is settled upon that the teabaggers will maintain their fury, or even remember that they insisted on full repeal. After all, we have always been at war with Eurasia.

Posted by: short fuse on April 1, 2010 at 12:05 PM | PERMALINK

Don't dismiss Corker out of hand. Unlike Burr, Corker is an up and coming leader for the Senate GOP. He's smart, instinctively moderate (although he sometimes has to pretend to be otherwise in today's GOP), and has practical governing experience as mayor of Chattanooga, where he was surprisingly progressive. It's no accident he has been made GOP point man on a number of issues, including the auto bailout and financial reform. This is the GOP brain struggling against its id. The id may be raging, but the head is trying, meekly, to fight back. I'm betting on the id.

Posted by: RMcD on April 1, 2010 at 12:28 PM | PERMALINK

My crude estimate is that the cost of the reform, $1 trillion, represents .5% of the GDP over ten years. How do you "destroy" a nation by changing its government outlays and taxation by less than 1%?

Posted by: bob h on April 1, 2010 at 2:44 PM | PERMALINK

The Republicans are shooting themselves in the foot. They are not just the party of No, they are the party of Hell No. The winner in November will the party completes their mission first. The Democrats need to get a spine and the Republicans need to get a message. May the best party win.

Posted by: Jim on April 1, 2010 at 3:57 PM | PERMALINK

Chances are the Rethugs will split not only over health care, but on regulatory reform, and immigrtation. The teabaggers are pulling to the right very hard, but they can't prevail with their small numbers no matter how much undeserved media attention they get. If more violence breaks out on the right that will only serve to turn off more people in the middle. Even if they get control of their message it will still be tailored to the base, and that won't resonate far beyond the ghettos of the hinterland either. Couple that with Steele alienating the donor base, and you have a recipe for Rethug chaos.

The real problem is the Dems don't have message control either, and they have precious little time to create it. Mostly they don't seem to know how to do it.


Posted by: rrk1 on April 1, 2010 at 4:38 PM | PERMALINK




 

 

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