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April 30, 2010

BOEHNER TAKES CREDIT FOR DEMOCRATIC HEALTH CARE ADVANCES.... House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) spoke to NPR's Steve Inskeep this morning, and twice said Republicans would repeal the Affordable Care Act if given congressional majorities next year. (thanks to reader A.D.)

It led to an interesting exchange:

INSKEEP: As you know, Democrats are already pointing to things that are changing in America because of this bill. They will point to the fact that college seniors, who would have been kicked off their families' insurance plans when they graduated, will get to stay on. Insurance companies are now saying they're going to end the practice of "rescission," where they take, or at least modify...

BOEHNER: Both of those ideas, by the way, came from Republicans, and are part of the common sense ideas that we ought to have in the law.

INSKEEP: Well, are you going to repeal those two specific things?

BOEHNER Uh, what I want to repeal are the other 158 mandates, commissions, boards that set up all the infrastructure for the government to take control of our health care system. [emphasis added]

We've seen a few instances lately in which Republican lawmakers try to take credit for provisions in the Affordable Care Act that they fought like hell to kill.

But Boehner is being especially shameless here. He is, after all, the one who characterized the new law as "Armageddon." I guess the new line will need some caveats: "It's Armageddon ... except for those popular parts, which Republicans should get credit for, even though we voted against them."

Note to Republicans: if the Affordable Care Act is an evil assault on America, moms, and apple pie, which will end the world as we know it, and which you fight until your last breath to destroy, you don't get to take credit for its provisions, especially when you didn't really come up with them in the first place.

Also note that Boehner believes the law sets up "the infrastructure" for a government-takeover of the health care system. What an interesting way to put it. I guess the Democrats' system isn't a government-takeover, but has the capacity to be a government-takeover at some point in the future, maybe.

After all this time, can John Boehner speak intelligently about health care policy? Hell no he can't.

Update: Ryan Rudominer, the DCCC's national press secretary, responds: "Once again House Republican Leader Boehner displays no respect for the truth as he sits on the sidelines rooting for failure and then tries claims credit for House Democrats accomplishments. Boehner is a shameless political opportunist whose double speak and phony talking points are as real as his fake orange tan."

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Keep at 'em, Steve. No way we should EVER let Boehner and the like squirm away from their vicious HCR lies. Good to see NPR actually question the BS, too.

Posted by: danimal on April 30, 2010 at 9:58 AM | PERMALINK

Interesting he claims those were R ideas. NY has the 26 age, instituted last year for this year. Definitely not an R idea.

Posted by: JM on April 30, 2010 at 10:01 AM | PERMALINK

There used to be serious, thoughtful Republicans once upon a time, weren't there? People who did not make themselves objects of ridicule every time they opened their mouths?

Where did those people go?

Posted by: UncommonSense on April 30, 2010 at 10:03 AM | PERMALINK

I caught that interview too and screamed at the radio, "I THOUGHT OBAMA, PELOSI AND REID COMPLETELY SHUT THE GOP OUT OF THE HEALTH CARE BILL, YOU MISERABLE SHIT!!!!" before I realized that Boner really couldn't hear me.

But someone is going to HAVE to ask him to square THAT circle. Republican ideas got into the health care takeover even though the Democrats rammed it through without listening to Republicans? Can you explain that, John?

HELL NO YOU CAN'T!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Lifelong Dem on April 30, 2010 at 10:03 AM | PERMALINK

Right, except for the sanitation, medicine, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh water system, and public health, what have the Romans, err . . . Democrats ever done for us?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExWfh6sGyso

Posted by: SteveT on April 30, 2010 at 10:03 AM | PERMALINK

Here's something that has bugged me for years, why do Republicans get exclusive and unchallenged use of the phrase "common sense." Boehner used it over and over in the NPR interview. Tim James uses it his English Only interview, Palin breathes it and Ollie North, IIRC, used it long ago when he ran for the Senate.
Why is there no Dem pushback on this. Next to saying "Democrat Party" their use of "common sense" is the Repubs most irksome verbal tick. /rant

Posted by: martin on April 30, 2010 at 10:11 AM | PERMALINK

Also, if the best parts of the bill are Republican ideas, then the bill is, in a meaningful sense, bipartisan. Cue the tape to Boehner complaining about Democratic partisanship.

Posted by: Grumpy on April 30, 2010 at 10:12 AM | PERMALINK

Perhaps the RepuGs did have a point when they wanted to cut funding for NPR. Now, with it morphing into National Publicity for RepuGs, I'm sure the RepuGs would agree to a bi-partisanship effor to cut their tax payer funding.

Posted by: berttheclock on April 30, 2010 at 10:17 AM | PERMALINK

"Also note that Boehner believes the law sets up "the infrastructure" for a government-takeover of the health care system. What an interesting way to put it. I guess the Democrats' system isn't a government-takeover, but has the capacity to be a government-takeover at some point in the future, maybe."

This is the sort of Republican idiocy that makes my head explode. It reminds me of a scene on one of the cable TV political yakfests during the Clinton Era:

Ann Coulter: Clinton did such-and-such. That's an abuse of power and a high crime and misdemeanor. He should be impeached!

Moderator: But Ann, Clinton didn't do that! There is no shred of evidence he did that!

Ann: But he COULD have done that! And if he DID do that, that would be an impeachable offense. So he should be impeached!

Posted by: Eeyore on April 30, 2010 at 10:18 AM | PERMALINK

As I said at passage, Republicans will pivot to being ACA supporters by the end of this year. By 2012 Romney will be touting Romneycare as the inspiration for Obamacare in his presidential run.

I wouldn't be surprised if Tea Partiers are screaming about keeping government hands off their ACA benefits by then.

Posted by: tib on April 30, 2010 at 10:25 AM | PERMALINK

So we're down to government healthcare takeover program-related activities now? Y'know, Boehner could be using the protection of his congressional office to deal drugs for the queen of england. So I say we arrest him now.

Posted by: paul on April 30, 2010 at 10:37 AM | PERMALINK

Let me second Grumpy's observation. If in fact the Republicans approve of any or some of the major proposals of the bill, then it is de facto a bipartisan bill.

Posted by: Texas Aggie on April 30, 2010 at 10:39 AM | PERMALINK

Everytime a Republican pulls this in a national interview the Democrats in congress need to call a press conference with their video presentation handy like they did a few weeks age...every time.

Posted by: SaintZak on April 30, 2010 at 10:41 AM | PERMALINK

Isn't he technically correct that those are among the ideas that originated with Republicans? Not that I believe Republicans ever would have voted for them en masse. They throw up lots of smokescreen legislation to move proposed bills to the right even though most of them would never vote for changes that hurt corporations in any way.

They could have easily said during the debate that they supported a specific handful of things in the bill, but of course they didn't because then Dems could have put those things in a separate bill and challenged Republicans to vote as they said they would. So Boehner is full of shit and completely disingenuous, but I think he is technically correct.

Posted by: Shalimar on April 30, 2010 at 10:44 AM | PERMALINK

Isn't he technically correct that those are among the ideas that originated with Republicans?

Leave it to the historians to fact check specifics, but ending recission in health insurance reform is hardly such a novel concept that anyone could claim a patent on it.

Posted by: qwerty on April 30, 2010 at 10:49 AM | PERMALINK

I am from John Boehner's home state of Ohio and I am disappointed that him and the rest of the Republican party from Ohio decided to put the insurance companies ahead of the people of Ohio.As a future health care professional, I know for a fact that we, as a nation, spend more on health care then any other nation. Hell No John Boehner can't repeal the new health care law.

Posted by: Laura on April 30, 2010 at 10:59 AM | PERMALINK

Boehner also just opened up the GOP to taking the blame for not implementing these fixes while they controlled Congress.

Posted by: Grumpy on April 30, 2010 at 10:59 AM | PERMALINK

They could have easily said during the debate that they supported a specific handful of things in the bill, but of course they didn't because then Dems could have put those things in a separate bill and challenged Republicans to vote as they said they would.

Well, actually, at one point the GOP said something similar. They said that the two parties agreed on 80% of the bill. In the very next breath they said that Congress needed to scrap the bill and start over. So you can probably find Republicans saying just about everything during the HCR debate.

Posted by: Lifelong Dem on April 30, 2010 at 11:00 AM | PERMALINK

@martin, I believe they have usurped "common sense" from the Libertarian movement. I, first, heard it from the Ross Perot crowd. In addition, I sat in on a History of the Constitution lecture given by a Libertarian. When asked by someone in the audience, what was Common Law, he said, it meant judges should use "common sense" in their adjudications. The Libertarians wanted to counter the "pointy headed Ivory Towered libs" by saying the common man used common sense.

Posted by: berttheclock on April 30, 2010 at 11:02 AM | PERMALINK

Of course, if "common sense" were really so common, we wouldn't be having these conversations.

Whether common sense is sensical is a whole other critter;>

Posted by: martin on April 30, 2010 at 11:07 AM | PERMALINK

When Boehner talks about "the infrastructure for the government to take control of our health care system" it sounds similar to the discussion about "weapons of mass destruction-related program activities."

Posted by: daveb99 on April 30, 2010 at 11:08 AM | PERMALINK

Steve,

While critiquing GOP shamelessness is reasonable, I'm not really sure this contradicts Boehner. His claim was that those two ideas were "from Republicans." Sure, they tried to kill the bill as a whole, but it is entirely possible that Olympia Snowe or Bob Bennett (or whoever) could have suggested those ideas, but ultimately voted against the complete package. So the question really is: Whose idea were they? Obama? Reid? Snowe? Who? Can Boehner offer any evidence that either was initially a Republican idea?

Posted by: Joe Dunbar on April 30, 2010 at 11:09 AM | PERMALINK

Perhaps if the tax on tanning booths had not been included, Bohner would not be so upset. Does take a toll on his pocket book.

Posted by: berttheclock on April 30, 2010 at 11:19 AM | PERMALINK

Well, actually, at one point the GOP said something similar. They said that the two parties agreed on 80% of the bill. In the very next breath they said that Congress needed to scrap the bill and start over. So you can probably find Republicans saying just about everything during the HCR debate.

Yeah, I remember that and it is why I used the word "specific". Because they were big on generalities during the debate but any time any of them were asked what was specifically good or bad about the proposals it seems like they struggled to come up with anything concrete. Yet now Boehner is able to say what he likes after the fact. He's a bullshit artist of the first order.

Posted by: Shalimar on April 30, 2010 at 11:44 AM | PERMALINK

Kudos to Inskeep for going after Bonehead, but that @#$%&$#@!! was so shameless I had to turn him off. Listening to Bonehead reminds me "if my thought dreams could be seen/they'd probably put my head in a guillotine" for thinking what I would like to do to that worthless piece of something you scrape off your shoes before stepping inside.

Posted by: TCinLA on April 30, 2010 at 11:57 AM | PERMALINK

What's most absurd about Boehner and the rest of the GOP is that they say they like the things that were either Dem or bipartisan ideas, while railing against the parts that they actually came up with and demanded be part of HCR!

The individual mandate? A Republican idea!

End of life services? A Republican idea!

There are many, many others that the GOP refused to move forward without, only to turn around and rail against later.

Of course, if we had a functioning media more interested in truth than ratings, they wouldn't keep getting away with shit like this ...

Posted by: Mark D on April 30, 2010 at 12:03 PM | PERMALINK

A repeal in name only?

Posted by: NDR on April 30, 2010 at 12:25 PM | PERMALINK

"...his fake orange tan."

Just had to play the race card.

Posted by: Grumpy on April 30, 2010 at 12:27 PM | PERMALINK

Boehner is a shameless political opportunist whose double speak and phony talking points are as real as his fake orange tan."

Be careful, you might hurt John's Boner's widdle feelings. That's a senistive Boner and he might refuse to coopera...oh wait...nevermind.

Posted by: Winkandanod on April 30, 2010 at 12:44 PM | PERMALINK

Inskeep should have said something about the HIR bill being bipartisan afterall if those were republican ideas.

(Inskeep does a good job with fluff pieces, but he's a terrible interviewer when it comes to weighty matters.)

Posted by: CDW on April 30, 2010 at 3:37 PM | PERMALINK

This is different than George Bush claiming credit for Texas' S-CHIP program and patient bill of rights -- that both passed over his veto -- how?

These guys all depend on never, ever being called to account, so there's literally no limit on the whoppers they can tell.

Posted by: Jim Pharo on April 30, 2010 at 4:41 PM | PERMALINK

I guess the Democrats' system isn't a government-takeover, but has the capacity to be a government-takeover at some point in the future, maybe. -- Steve Benen

Not that Boner knows it, necessarily, but that, in a nutshell, is the difference between communism and socialism :) If you think about it, you'll notice that all the *parties* were called "communist"; they set the ideal for the future. But the *countries* -- including USSR (Union of Soviet Socialist Republics) -- were "socialist"; socialism was the road which was supposed to lead to communism.

Posted by: exlibra on April 30, 2010 at 5:20 PM | PERMALINK

BOEHNER IS A COWARD MAGGOT WORTHLESS INBRED republiCANT!!!!!
His ideology, along with his fellow republiCANT'S is OUTDATED AND UN-AMERICAN!!!
We need to vote HYPOCRITES AND PARASITES like these out of office!!!
They need to take a plane to the farthest country away from America!!!
We are interested in PROGRESS not REGRESS!! And regress is the republiCANT agenda!!!


Go Dems!!!!

Posted by: Kathryn on April 30, 2010 at 5:28 PM | PERMALINK

Drunk again. Typical of him.

Posted by: Kent on May 1, 2010 at 3:45 AM | PERMALINK




 

 

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