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April 30, 2010

LOWDEN KEEPS BALKING AT CHICKEN CONTROVERSY.... Sue Lowden, the far-right Senate candidate in Nevada, seems to realize that the "bring a chicken to the doctor" matter is not only damaging, it's also not going away. Today, she publishes a piece at Politico in the hopes of putting the feathery mess behind her.

The comment I made about bartering was not, and was never intended to be, a policy proposal. It was an example of how struggling families are working to pay for medical care in any way they can during these tough times.

On her own blog, Lowden added:

If you want to see my policy on health care reform, it has been on my web page since last year -- and it remains there to this day. Nowhere in my health reform proposal do I discuss bargaining, bartering or negotiating, rather I offer real solutions that work without creating a new, government-run entitlement program that Nevadans don't want and they cannot afford.

As walkbacks go, this might seem compelling. But at the risk of being picky, it also seems pretty wrong.

Lowden is on firm ground when she notes that her "health reform proposal" doesn't incorporate "bargaining, bartering or negotiating." It's not really a "proposal," per se -- Lowden's "plan" is really just eye-rolling palaver about tort reform and buying insurance across state lines -- but let's put that aside.

The problem is she continues to deny what is plainly true: she was presented with policy questions, asked for her thoughts on policy solutions, and twice, in front of cameras, defended bartering as a reasonable approach to health care delivery.

This isn't a matter of opinion. Lowden was specifically asked how her approach to health care policy would differ from the new national law. She recommended, among other things, that patients "go ahead and barter with your doctor." Lowden said, at the time, that such an approach "would get prices down in a hurry."

When pressed on her bartering ideas a week later, Lowden said, "I'm telling you, this works.... Doctors are very sympathetic people. I'm not backing down from that system."

Now Lowden would have us believe she was just offering "an example of how struggling families are working to pay for medical care"? That's clearly not true.

Saying ridiculous things is bad. Lying about saying ridiculous things may prove to be even worse.

Postscript: And in case the story wasn't a big enough problem for Lowden, a left-leaning independent group is launching a very effective ad on this.

Steve Benen 4:50 PM Permalink | Trackbacks | Comments (21)

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"LOWDEN KEEP SQUAWKING AT CHICKEN CONTROVERSY"

Fixed.

Posted by: Uli Kunkel on April 30, 2010 at 4:43 PM | PERMALINK

This is the deal. Find someone halfway acceptable LOOKING, good job, preferably female that can speak. They don't KNOW squat BUT when caught up they can whine about the 'media, the liberals, etc. etc.' OR refer you to their VERY FINE website that was written by a consultant and they didn't even BOTHER to read. "I'm going to Washington" is now the equivalent of "I'm going to Disneyland". Throw da bums OUT.

Posted by: SYSPROG on April 30, 2010 at 4:53 PM | PERMALINK

But God and Fox and teh Teabaggers forgive her...it's all okay.

Posted by: Skip on April 30, 2010 at 4:57 PM | PERMALINK

Saying ridiculous things is bad. Lying about saying ridiculous things may prove to be even worse.********

If you're a Democrat, it may prove to be even worse. If you are a Repig, and you lie, then you lie about lying. And when you are called on it, you scream, "You are running a smear campaign, taking things out of context, and name-calling!! You are trying to create controversy out of nothing, and trying to avoid the real issues! You are simply wasting the tax-payers time and money as the Democrat party always does." This disingenuous, Rove/Luntz ( I guess that would be "Runtz") tactic is standard fare for the Godly, Family Values Party. Rank hypocrites. Ever God Damn one of them!

Posted by: In what respect, Charlie? on April 30, 2010 at 4:58 PM | PERMALINK

I may be wrong about this, but isn't bartering illegal? I have always thought so.

The problem is that you cannot tax such trades.

Perhaps somebody can either correct me or confirm.

Posted by: John Tomas on April 30, 2010 at 5:16 PM | PERMALINK

On a slightly different note -- the ad by whoruns.gov that Steve mentions is quite good.

And yes, Lowden is quadruple-down ridiculous.

Posted by: June on April 30, 2010 at 5:21 PM | PERMALINK

Steve Benen wrote: "Saying ridiculous things is bad. Lying about saying ridiculous things may prove to be even worse."

Actually, saying ridiculous things for the benefit of the Ditto-Head Republican base, and then lying about saying those ridiculous things for the benefit of a mainstream audience, has proved a very effective strategy for right-wing Republican politicians.

Of course that strategy is absolutely dependent on the collusion of the corporate-owned, so-called "mainstream" media, which collusion can of course be absolutely counted on by Republicans.

Posted by: SecularAnimist on April 30, 2010 at 5:23 PM | PERMALINK

sweet. the negative attention clearly has her feathers ruffled. i bet in retrospect she wishes she'd scratched out some notes before speaking instead of just winging it -- instead she ends up with egg all over her face.

(forgive me, its late Friday afternoon.)

Posted by: zeitgeist on April 30, 2010 at 5:23 PM | PERMALINK

Has this chicken bartering scheme cost Ms. Lowden in the polls yet? What I've seen of her (not a lot) is extremely unimpressive, hard to believe she's running for the U.S. Senate. The GOP seems to have a liking for attractive dopes from Palin to Scott Brown and now Lowden and they lose any appeal the physical might buy them when they open there mouths.

Posted by: Kathryn on April 30, 2010 at 5:33 PM | PERMALINK

And the reaction from Harry Reid was.....?????

Nothing from what I've heard. Anyone know if he's bothered to make any sort of hay with this???

Posted by: John in Socal on April 30, 2010 at 6:06 PM | PERMALINK

Today, she publishes a piece at Politico in the hopes of putting the feathery mess behind her. -- Steve Benen

It may not be possible to achieve since, apparently, the feathers are not just all over her behind but also filling up her brainbox, to capacity.

Yeah, it's Friday in Virginia, too :)

Posted by: exlibra on April 30, 2010 at 6:32 PM | PERMALINK

I still think that neither Ms. Lowden nor many of those writing about her understand clearly the difference between the words 'barter' and 'bargain'.

Posted by: Richard on April 30, 2010 at 8:39 PM | PERMALINK

It's obviously getting to her. Good. Any chance Chicken George that shadowed George Bush 41 around in '92 could be plucked out of retirement? Seeing that everywhere she went would drive Suzie cluck raving mad-der.

Posted by: Chopin on April 30, 2010 at 8:42 PM | PERMALINK

Here's an idea: we should pool some money and give her a crate of live chickens as a campaign contribution!

Posted by: low-tech cyclist on April 30, 2010 at 9:06 PM | PERMALINK

Here's an idea: we should pool some money and give her a crate of live chickens as a campaign contribution!
Posted by: low-tech cyclist on April 30, 2010 at 9:06 PM

Make it a dozen of fertilized eggs instead, and you can count me in. She's a Repub. According to Repubs, an embryo is as good as a live baby. Presumably, that theory is elastic enough to cover *all species*, not just humans. And the shipping of a dozen of eggs, as compared to the shipping of a dozen of chickens has the advantage of being *both*: cheaper and more ecofriendly.

Posted by: exlibra on April 30, 2010 at 9:16 PM | PERMALINK

Headline should read "Lowden Keeps BAWKING At Chicken Contorversy"

Posted by: SandiBehrns on April 30, 2010 at 10:46 PM | PERMALINK

"Headline should read "Lowden Keeps BAWKING At Chicken Contorversy"

You beat me to it, SandiBehrns. Good work.

Bawk, BAWK, Bawk. (Scratch)

Posted by: Butch on April 30, 2010 at 10:59 PM | PERMALINK

What every one seems to be missing is that every straight, bald headed , pot bellied, male loser would like to "do" Sue. That gives her an advantage over Harry. That's the society we live in. Get used to it as Asia trumps US exceptionalism.

Posted by: bradgalt on April 30, 2010 at 11:44 PM | PERMALINK

To give her her due, I think bartering WOULD work ... with doctors who can't get patients any other way.

Mainly, BAD doctors. Bad as in incompetent. Doctors who have lost a lot of malpractice suits.

Any else read "Skin Tight" by Carl Haaisen? Funny AND true.

Posted by: Sarah Palin IS the ANTIchrist on May 1, 2010 at 12:05 AM | PERMALINK

I'd be glad to give a Doc a Goose if he'd give Lowden a Hi-Colonic.

Posted by: cwolf on May 1, 2010 at 12:24 AM | PERMALINK

And poor women could barter their bodies, presumably.

Posted by: bob h on May 1, 2010 at 6:33 AM | PERMALINK




 

 

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