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May 13, 2010

QUOTE OF THE DAY.... Apparently, organizers of the Miss USA pageant published promotional photos recently of contestants wearing lingerie. This, ordinarily, wouldn't be an especially interesting political topic, except to question the value of these pageants in the first place.

But the lingerie photos were apparently a subject of interest to Fox News' Sean Hannity, who asked a panel of guests this week, "What does this tell us about society?"

[Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas)] was first to respond: "An absolute breakdown in morality," he said. "And when you lose morality, you get economic chaos. And when you have economic chaos, historically, people have always been willing to give up liberty. And that's what we're seeing."

Gohmert has long been one of Congress' most embarrassing buffoons, but even for him, this is bizarre.

I can only assume Louie Gohmert will nevertheless be in line for key and influential posts if Republicans retake the House majority next year. The lingerie-related hearings will no doubt be riveting.

Update: MM has the video of Gohmert's comments. Seeing/hearing the response doesn't help his case.

Steve Benen 10:15 AM Permalink | Trackbacks | Comments (37)

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Posted by: August J. Pollak on May 13, 2010 at 10:15 AM | PERMALINK

Complete moral breakdown

I couldn't agree more.

It's gotten to the point that when you hear someone barking about morality it is almost natural to assume that he is probably fucking children on the sly...

Posted by: koreyel on May 13, 2010 at 10:20 AM | PERMALINK

I would watch lingerie hearings on C-Span. Without a doubt, that would be the GOP's most popular initiative in a decade.

Posted by: do on May 13, 2010 at 10:21 AM | PERMALINK

This Repugnant has found a way to utter his wildest dreams on the teevee. What a sly dawg he is...

Posted by: neill on May 13, 2010 at 10:25 AM | PERMALINK

hate to say it, but in terms of consistency, the dopes on the right may have half a point. Now, I'll admit that I haven't seen every single photo of Carrie Prejean out there, but those that I've seen, they seem to be pretty tame and wholesome. More like a "hey, wow! You caught me barely dressed! Wanna play volleyball?" kinda way, or a "yeah, I know, I'm almost naked is that a shark over there?" kinda way. Not so sexual. Whereas these lingerie shots are more of the come-hither-and-do-me variety. I couldn't give a rat's ass either way, but for all its talk about projecting a "wholesome" image (while trying to get old men with a fetish for young women who barely look like they'd know what to do with a penis but are oh-so-eager to get boners), the current layout seems contradictory at best, I'd say hypocritical.

Certainly NOT "an absolute breakdown in morality" but for those on the right who feel Prejean got stiffed (no pun intended) by being a beautiful woman who happened to have conservative values, it only adds fuel to that fire.

Posted by: slappy magoo on May 13, 2010 at 10:27 AM | PERMALINK

Gohmert has long been one of Congress' most embarrassing buffoons

That is, to be charitable, putting it mildly.

So, for the Right:

Young women in lingerie = outrageous moral breakdown of society
Republican anti-gay bigot caught with male prostitute = (complete silence)

Posted by: electrolite on May 13, 2010 at 10:28 AM | PERMALINK

Well, Gohmert's statement has, as a matter of fact, the structure of an argument. An argument in which each of the inferences is delusional, at best-- but, nonetheless, an argument.

Posted by: MattF on May 13, 2010 at 10:29 AM | PERMALINK

Yes, it's a complete breakdown from how high brow it was before, what with the young ladies parading around in front of a live audience in swimsuits made of less fabric than an iPod case and stammering through questions about "the Iraq and such as."* They've really taken this to a whole new low.

And please, Gohmert, those black and white shots aren't half bad. Every supermarket has the equivalent in the checkout aisle at kids' eye level, not to mention I've seen some of the FOX News, uh, talent, with skimpier tops than some of those shots. All in all, I'd say this is the best experience these girls will get preparing for their likely future careers consisting of nip slips, nude modeling, and attempting to out-crazy Ann Coulter in the hopes of clinging to tabloid headlines, right Prejean?

*I was so glad that particular moron didn't win The Amazing Race.

Posted by: doubtful on May 13, 2010 at 10:30 AM | PERMALINK

I'm eagerly awaiting the former half-term governor of Alaska's tweet on the immorality of scantily-clad women in beauty pageants.

Posted by: Snarky Bastard on May 13, 2010 at 10:35 AM | PERMALINK

Sez a lot about society - that's what happens when you give women shoes and let them out of the kitchen - it all goes to hell in a hand basket.

Best we break out the burkhas.

Posted by: andy on May 13, 2010 at 10:37 AM | PERMALINK


Objectifying women is part of the Texas culture, for crying out loud.

The only breakdown in morality is when we allow conservative hypocrites to impose their closeted sensibilities on the rest of us.

Posted by: Rochester on May 13, 2010 at 10:40 AM | PERMALINK

In other words, it's Obama's fault.

Posted by: ScottW714 on May 13, 2010 at 10:51 AM | PERMALINK

I'm sure right after the show he checked them out to see just how immoral they are.

Posted by: J on May 13, 2010 at 10:55 AM | PERMALINK

It's interesting that the Miss USA Pageant publishing these photos is a sign of an "absolute breakdown in morality." What would he say about a talk show on a news channel actually BROADCASTING those scandalous photos? Better not to bite the hand, I guess.

Posted by: Rob S. on May 13, 2010 at 10:57 AM | PERMALINK

Uhm Congressman, did it ever occur to you, that back in the day, that the swim suit competition, with actual skin showing, was pretty tittilating, and might have been considered a breakdown in marality back in the day, except the judges were all men and liked skin?

The moment we began our complete willingness to give up our liberty, was when when some flapper contestant wore a swim suit flashing some skin! And we got the Great Depression. Then FDR took away all of our freedoms!

Where's my chalkboard when I need it?!?!

Posted by: c u n d gulag on May 13, 2010 at 11:02 AM | PERMALINK

The downfall of Civilization As We Know It began when so-called "God" did a bit of surgery on His creation, and formed Eve.

-Up to that point huMANity was perfect in every way. . .

Posted by: DAY on May 13, 2010 at 11:02 AM | PERMALINK

And yet no comment about Sen. Vitter's "lingerie" of choice?

Posted by: Pampers on May 13, 2010 at 11:02 AM | PERMALINK

That first sentence may have been the worst in a long list of sentences that I've ever written.
And, to think, I even previewed it!
What a dope, what a maroon...

Posted by: c u n d gulag on May 13, 2010 at 11:04 AM | PERMALINK

Vitter was asked. He said, "Depends..."

Posted by: c u n d gulag on May 13, 2010 at 11:08 AM | PERMALINK

Steve writes a post about beauty pageant contestants and thinks we want to see the video of Gohmert.

Posted by: inkadu on May 13, 2010 at 11:11 AM | PERMALINK

I'd suggest a knickers-tax, if you want less of something ....... or do we want more of something?

Then Vitter and Goelmert could sponser legislation on behalf of pageant contestants to lower their knickers ......... taxes.

Posted by: John Thullen on May 13, 2010 at 11:18 AM | PERMALINK

"And when you lose morality, you get economic chaos. And when you have economic chaos, historically, people have always been willing to give up liberty. And that's what we're seeing."

Leave your troubles outside. Life is disappointing? Forget it! In here life is beautiful, the girls are beautiful, even the orchestra is beautiful.

Posted by: SaintZak on May 13, 2010 at 11:42 AM | PERMALINK

Well, I guess we'd better impeach Scott Brown, in that case.

Posted by: jibeaux on May 13, 2010 at 11:44 AM | PERMALINK


Posted by: Brock on May 13, 2010 at 11:48 AM | PERMALINK

I am outraged. Specifically, I'm outraged about the lack of a link to the lingerie photos so we can judge for ourselves whether they are evidence of a complete moral breakdown.

Posted by: Another Steve on May 13, 2010 at 11:51 AM | PERMALINK

I think he's jealous because those pretty girls get to wear really sexy underwear in public. I think he would have been a drag queen if his had not been so repressed.

But now he is stuck wearing grungy torn briefs which even his wife does not want to see him in.

Poor guy... trying to spoil the fun for everyone because he cannot participate.

Posted by: KurtRex1453 on May 13, 2010 at 12:09 PM | PERMALINK

Rep. Gohmert... so, so easy and tempting to make his name French (silent "t" at the end). Perfect.

I've been calling Jeff Sessions "Senator Gomer" for many years now. Makes it symmetrical with a Gomer at each end of the Capitol.

Posted by: Hmmmmm on May 13, 2010 at 12:19 PM | PERMALINK

He probably ejaculates prematurely in the presence of a naked mannequin.

Posted by: Michael7843853 on May 13, 2010 at 12:27 PM | PERMALINK

Funny, I always thought beauty pageants were a part of conservative culture. If there's any breakdown in morality, it's on them.

Posted by: bdop4 on May 13, 2010 at 12:53 PM | PERMALINK

"And when you lose morality, you get economic chaos. And when you have economic chaos, historically, people have always been willing to give up liberty. And that's what we're seeing."

Agreed. If Miss Arizona hadn't been forced into a thong by nazi loving liberals, the Republican led Arizona legislature probably wouldn't be giving up on freedom right now.

Posted by: oh my on May 13, 2010 at 1:11 PM | PERMALINK

Er, ah, If Louie Gohmert is ah, not willing to support the American lingerie industry, then, ah, I will stand by theyah side.

Posted by: DiamondJoeQuimby on May 13, 2010 at 1:44 PM | PERMALINK

Fox News certainly hasn't given up its freedom to show the old white guys in its demographic base a lot of cheesecake. I'm sure that Sean Hannity had to look at all those photos very, very carefully when preparing the segment, and I'm sure most viewers TiVo'd it so that they could go back over it a few times to make sure of how shocked they were. By the way, what was that talk-show bimbette wearing, if anything?

Posted by: T-Rex on May 13, 2010 at 2:49 PM | PERMALINK


What is "economic chaos"?

I'm trying to picture it.

I give you a wedgie and you hand me a five spot?
People spontaneously set fire to their wallets?
Gas stations accept my library card for payment?
I pay for a checkup at my doctor with a chicken?

Somebody who speaks fluent whackjob, please write in.

Posted by: toowearyforoutrage on May 13, 2010 at 2:58 PM | PERMALINK

Is this the latest from the underpants gnomes?

1) Lingerie
2) ?????
3) Lose Liberty!!!!

Posted by: Quaker in a Basement on May 13, 2010 at 3:14 PM | PERMALINK

i'm pretty sure that the first thing hitler did after coming into power was to introduce the "lingerie" segment into german society....the women were pushing wheelbarrows full of valueless currency, if memory serves...

Posted by: dj spellchecka on May 13, 2010 at 6:22 PM | PERMALINK

Well, I checked the pictures out, but only to check Miss Arizona's shoes to make sure she wasn't an illegal alien- I don't think spike heels are so good in the desert.

Posted by: MikeN on May 14, 2010 at 12:16 AM | PERMALINK

My apologies -- he's my congressman (see me hang my head in shame).

And talking to him in person, it's even worse.

Posted by: Vik on May 14, 2010 at 1:43 AM | PERMALINK
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