May 20, 2010
REMEMBER WHEN TERRORISM WAS THE EXISTENTIAL THREAT?.... For quite a while after 9/11, there wasn't much of a debate about the national threat. The greatest danger facing Americans came from terrorists, the conventional wisdom said. The word "but" need not follow.
It's been interesting in the years since to see conservatives abandon this line. Disgraced former House Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.), for example, has a new book out, which argues that terrorists are bad, but Americans he disagrees with are worse.
In the 20th Century, America fought and defeated Nazism, Fascism, Imperialism and Communism -- four existential threats to our survival.
In this century, America is facing two different kinds of threats, though no less grave. This time, the threat does not come from nation-state superpowers, but from non-state networks, each pursuing an agenda based upon radical ideologies. The first motivates non-state terrorist networks to kill Americans both here and abroad. But even more disturbing than the threats from foreign terrorists is a second threat that is right here at home. It is an ideology so fundamentally at odds with historic American values that it threatens to undo the cultural ethics that have made our country great. I call it "secular-socialism."
The Left has thoroughly infiltrated nearly every cultural commanding height of our civilization.
Got that? Foreign radicals who are at war with the United States are a problem, but the "threats" posed by liberals are "even more disturbing." Such is the world through Newt Gingrich's eyes.
Of course, it's not just Newt. Last November, Rep. Virginia Foxx (R-N.C.) said Americans have "more to fear" from health care reform than terrorists. Similarly, in October, Rep. John Shadegg (R-Ariz.) said health care reform legislation is more important than the 9/11 attacks.
A few years ago, radical TV preacher Pat Robertson dismissed the 9/11 perpetrators as just "a few bearded-terrorists." The real threat, he said were liberal federal judges.
It wasn't too long ago that the right considered al Qaeda and other terrorists the single most serious threat imaginable. It was, they said, the existential threat of the 21st century. Those who downplayed the dangers posed by terrorists were naive fools, not to be trusted on matters of national security.
I guess conservatives' priorities have changed?
—Steve Benen 2:50 PM
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As one of the few actual secular-socialists in the United States, I wonder if this means I'm due to be captured, tortured, and held indefinitely without charges. You know, since I'm such a threat to America.
Posted by: Tree on May 20, 2010 at 2:59 PM | PERMALINK
Gingrich is just another Luntz-inspired propagandist.
Posted by: eightnine2718281828mu5 on May 20, 2010 at 3:02 PM | PERMALINK
Recently, it became so clear to me, that 'Fear' was priority #1,2, & 3, for the GOP leadership...
as evidenced by their 'Obama is making us a Socialist Nation' claim.
Cleary, they loved using the 'Fear the Terrorists' theme, and the effect it had on the electorate, but they also realized it had run it's course. So now, 'Fear the Socialism' is the 'best' Fear they can 'use'.
Sad.
Posted by: Aynsley on May 20, 2010 at 3:03 PM | PERMALINK
What we Americans should do, ideologically speaking, is to insist Newt Gingrich crawl back under the rock he has been living under for the past generation!
He has not taken into account our social development since the midnineties when he was free to lob a gernade or two at his perceived political enemies, while divorcing his first wife as she lay recovering from cancer in a hospital bed awaiting the day when she would have to beg her church for charity for herself and Newt's children when he abandoned his family commitment to help support his own offspring!
No, Newt, if we read your book, it will be for the lulz, and nothing more! -Kevo
Posted by: kevo on May 20, 2010 at 3:03 PM | PERMALINK
yes we progressives/liberals are a dangerous bunch. health care reform, financial regulatory reform, energy reform ... these are incredibly dangerous ideas ...
in all seriousness, it's fine for conservatives to oppose our ideas. a healthy, honest give and take from all points of view is necessary in a democracy and can make both sides better. however, this kind of rhetoric IS truly dangerous.
Posted by: mudwall jackson on May 20, 2010 at 3:05 PM | PERMALINK
To be fair, I believe that the conservatives bed-wetting reaction to terrorism (resorting to torture, presumption of guilt, stripping non-whites of rights) is more of a threat to what I perceive as the American way of life than what the terrorists themselves are doing. But that's slightly different than an "existential" threat... and more people seem to pay attention to Newt's opinions than mine.
Posted by: short fuse on May 20, 2010 at 3:07 PM | PERMALINK
"Such is the world through Newt Gingrich's eyes."
Actually, Steve, the world through Newt Gingrich's eyes consists entirely of Newt's colon wall.
Posted by: azportsider on May 20, 2010 at 3:09 PM | PERMALINK
Step 1: Establish terrorism as something everyone should mindlessly fear so they'll let you do whatever you want while you're in power.
Step 2: When out of power, use that fear as the benchmark for how much your supporters should fear everyone but you.
Geez, you could hardly expect them to let eight years of fearmongering go to waste and just stop talking about terrorism, right?
Posted by: Redshift on May 20, 2010 at 3:09 PM | PERMALINK
What do these secular-socialists believe in exactly? What do they look like? Do they have a secret handshake? Do the emerge from pods taking over the lives of real Americans? If you are infected ith secular-socialism is there any hope or should you be shot on sight like a zombie? Do they cheat on their wives? If they win what will the do to the rest of us? Will they drain us of our vital essentials. So many questions. I guess I will have to read his book.
These "secular-socialists" look like us? How horrible, at least the terrorists work robes and funny beards.
Posted by: Ron Byers on May 20, 2010 at 3:17 PM | PERMALINK
I particularly love how now Newt sees Fascism, Nazism and Imperialism as evils on par with Communism. Set aside the fact that America is acting as an imperialist power today. The GOP has been overtly fascist as long as I've been alive, and Newt's ideological forefathers thought Hitler was a "great man" with a lot of "good ideas" right up until he declared war on us. Initially, FDR only asked for a declaration of war against Japan because he feared that even after Pearl Harbor, the GOP wouldn't go along with war against Germany.
Posted by: Alan on May 20, 2010 at 3:24 PM | PERMALINK
GOP hypocrisy? My, who would've thunk it? These clowns have no scrupples and their dishonesty knows no bounds. Knowing they'll never be called out only emboldens them. They literally take opposing sides of an argument over the course of one election cycle.
Posted by: TBone on May 20, 2010 at 3:27 PM | PERMALINK
Luntz-inspired = Oxymoron
GOP is threatened by the Liberal Facism according to the fearless Goldberg which is then adopted as peerless by the human Newton whose Gingrinchy fecular humanism seems to excise goodly godly overlaps that inconvenience progress with that critter he ain't legal with where Luntzy at luncheons cracks wise about a hand in the till which thrills the leg off of tweety who sympathizes that things are too hard meet halfway but there are still five minutes till coffee break and Bill kristol will explain what oxymoron means with a cheesy grin that pulls the meaning sociopath to a cheerful center right inflation ...
Posted by: FRP on May 20, 2010 at 3:45 PM | PERMALINK
Actually, this type of hyperbole is a trusty old staple of GOP rhetoric. The week of the Oklahoma City bombing, some right wing pundit, I believe it was Cal "most effeminate face-lift in the known universe" Thomas, who opined that the nation had suffered two equally destructive attacks: the bombing, and the passage of a law granting some benefits to domestic partners of state employees in one of the New England States.
Of course, that was before the GOP also realized how profitably they could combine fear of terror with racist dog-whistles. It's true that in the immediate aftermath of Oklahoma City, a lot of people suspected Arab terrorism, and Rush Limbaugh, with the statesmanlike profundity for which he's so well known, suggested we just go ahead and bomb a few Arab countries on principle, whether we knew who did it or not. But Timothy McVeigh was inconveniently white, and so it wasn't till 9/11 that it became possible to make hatred of brown people with foreign names seem truly patriotic.
Posted by: T-Rex on May 20, 2010 at 3:46 PM | PERMALINK
Nope, the R's haven't changed. Terrorism was a screen. It's always been the poor, the non-whites, and the poor non-whites.
Posted by: boc on May 20, 2010 at 3:52 PM | PERMALINK
Which liberals/progressives are in the best position to get a coordinated message out? We have a wonderful opportunity to completely flip decades worth of perception by simply declaring that WE'RE not wetting OUR pants over terra', we're bravely going about our normal lives, if you wingnut pussies want to cower in fear, go to it! And then we live it. Cable news always puts opposites together to 'debate' on TV, when the wingnut mouthpiece delivers the 'be vewy afwaid' speech, our guy/gal needs to openly respond, 'Go hide in your closet, real Americans aren't handing our enemies a victory as easily as you are'.
Posted by: BillFromPA on May 20, 2010 at 3:52 PM | PERMALINK
So that's where Friedman's doctorate on kicking a defenseless opponent in the civilian collateral was germinated .
Posted by: FRP on May 20, 2010 at 3:53 PM | PERMALINK
I understand Newt's concern. All the secular-socialists I know, and that's quite a few, think cheating on your sick wife is reprehensible, and are also opposed to impeaching a sitting President for purely partisan political reasons. Clearly, if there is one side that is out to corrode the American value system, it must be them.
Posted by: biggerbox on May 20, 2010 at 3:58 PM | PERMALINK
But even more disturbing than the threats from foreign terrorists is a second threat that is right here at home. It is an ideology so fundamentally at odds with historic American values that it threatens to undo the cultural ethics that have made our country great. I call it "Christian conservatism."
There, fixed.
Posted by: Gaia on May 20, 2010 at 4:00 PM | PERMALINK
I've come to the conclusion that movement conservatism is just another way for the elite to make money. I don't think Newt really believes what he says, but there are many people who will pay hard earned cash to buy his book that do.
Posted by: Archon on May 20, 2010 at 4:01 PM | PERMALINK
If the Soviet Union had collapsed in 1953, Joe McCarthy would have begun to spew the same bile.
Its taken 50 years since Eisenhower crushed that particular pissant, but within the past decade the tail gunner crowd finally accomplished its takeover of the GOP. Gingrich should not be taken lightly. He is a bona fide rooster in that party. Their cancerous screed enjoys access not only to the bully pulpit that is the FOX network, but to the all other organs of the corporate media as well. And as you can scare some of the people all of the time, and all the people some of the time, power is always ripe for the plucking.
Posted by: JL on May 20, 2010 at 4:04 PM | PERMALINK
The threat we face comes from our own arrogance and callous disregard for safety measures, like blow-out preventer devices that failed due to
conservative greed.
Posted by: Tom Nicholson on May 20, 2010 at 4:08 PM | PERMALINK
Gingrich in one of the prime feeders of the dangerous rhetorical zombie fever swamp that the anti-American, traitorus Republican Party has become.
The Republican Party is an infection of the body politic. Its bacillus is spreading, bite by zombie bite. It is an insurrection against the Federal government and govnermnets at all levels, no less than the Confederacy was.
They have demonized everyone who differs with them, including the moderates in their own wretched excuse for a political party in a modern free society.
They want demons -- become demons.
They want enemies -- become the enemy.
They want civil war - become violent.
They want government destroyed, then let's destroy the government.
They hate taxes. I can hate taxes unlike anything they ever seen, except in their rancid fever dreams, as in a violent tax revolt against all levels of government run by the scum in the Republican Party. Show them what true hatred of taxes entails -- you tax us and we will fucking kill you in your beds.
Posted by: John Thullen on May 20, 2010 at 4:14 PM | PERMALINK
What kind of threat is a black, billowing slurry of petrochemicals flooding into the sea?
Probably greater than I can imagine.
Benzene.
All you need to know about organic chemistry, is the volatile hexagonal carbon ring not only is part of a nasty smelling chemical, but a deadly one as well.
We boast about our ability to kill people, we fly drones and float submarines, yet we cannot stop our own leak.
No plan in place. Nada.
Reminds me of the Iraq War. Again, after invasion (drilling), no plan. nada.
Posted by: Tom Nicholson on May 20, 2010 at 4:15 PM | PERMALINK
It's very simple. Newt Gingrich is in no position to do anything whatsoever about actual, real-world terrorism, so he must set that issue aside.
He can, however, wave a banner with the scary image of a menacing made-up hobgoblin with a magical made-up name, be it Rumpelstiltskin or Secularsocialism, and try frightening people into hiring him as their Man On A White Horse, or Glorious Political Savior.
Joe McCarthy was by no means the first to discover this little trick.
Posted by: Raven on May 20, 2010 at 4:25 PM | PERMALINK
It is an ideology so fundamentally at odds with historic American values that it threatens to undo the cultural ethics that have made our country great.
I was thinking "Corporate feudalism," but Gaia nailed it with "Christian conservatism."
Posted by: josef on May 20, 2010 at 4:28 PM | PERMALINK
Americans he disagrees with are worse
That is an amazingly common belief. Consider how many people are afraid of the Tea Party movement, global warming deniers or capitalists.
Posted by: MatthewRMarler on May 20, 2010 at 4:42 PM | PERMALINK
JL: If the Soviet Union had collapsed in 1953, Joe McCarthy would have begun to spew the same bile.
As it was, McCarthyism was as much (or more) about attacking the snooty Eastern Establishment types and other "enemies within" as it was actual anti-Communism.
Posted by: Chet on May 20, 2010 at 4:51 PM | PERMALINK
And because the "fundamental values" of the American republic are deliberation and compromise -- a constitutional system of divided powers and checks and balances designed to, in Madison's famous words, "break the violence of faction," how exactly does Newt Gingrich advance those "fundamental American values" by declaring war on half of America, by identifying them as enemies of the state, ideologues who hate America? America has a revolutionary tradition, but Newt Gingrich has always been at heart a bomb-throwing revolutionary at war with the fruits of that earlier revolution, namely our own democratic tradition.
Posted by: Ted Frier on May 20, 2010 at 7:59 PM | PERMALINK
Newtie is simply trying to understand why the country doesn't rally to him. After all, he's a patriot with only the best intentions for the country in his heart (did someone in the back say something?); therefore there MUST be a consipracy of some sort to explain the lack of support for his nut-jobbery.
Any other explanation is just too painful to imagine...
Posted by: Doug on May 20, 2010 at 8:13 PM | PERMALINK
It's a conspiracy, I tell you!
Posted by: Doug on May 20, 2010 at 8:14 PM | PERMALINK
Funny, I was @ Costco just a while ago and walked by this very book , with its smarmy title staring me in the face. Three thoughts jumped into my mind
1. My god conservative whores sure like going to the publishing well to make extra $$$$$ Seems like a never ending flow.
2. Costco never fails to dutifully display them proudly.
3. If companies like Geico deem Lance Baxter's asking conservatives a few simple questions like 'how many retards work for you' grounds for immediate termination, why do other companies think it totally appropriate to display '12 step plans for stopping our worse than a muslim terrorist President'?
America is becoming a joke.
Posted by: tempered optimism on May 20, 2010 at 8:56 PM | PERMALINK
It's a conspiracy, I tell you!
New Shimmer is a floor wax!
Posted by: navamske on May 20, 2010 at 9:41 PM | PERMALINK
That'll teach us to accurately cite Gingrich's hypocrisy, massive corruption and lack of character.
I guess if I was a serial liar, amoral panderer of moneyed interests and intellectual fraud, I might lash out at "your lyin' eyes" too.
Posted by: Sparko on May 20, 2010 at 9:53 PM | PERMALINK
Pandering to the right with the usual themes of massive hysteria and paranoia. A timeless tradition really. And a great way to sell product be it radio, cable news, books, etc. You can't lose.
Posted by: mickster on May 21, 2010 at 12:26 AM | PERMALINK
Conservatives failed miserably at defeating terrorism, so now they think they'll try defeating domestic liberals. Too Funny.
When that fails, next up: The Boy Scouts. Then The Brownies, when that also fails. Pretty soon, they'll settle for confiscating candy from babies.
Posted by: Jon on May 21, 2010 at 12:42 AM | PERMALINK
Neo McCarthyism. What it boils down to is invention of a non-existant bogeyman because the bullies at the back of the bus got shouted down for being stupid- so they're attacking the Bus Driver.
Posted by: johnnymags on May 21, 2010 at 8:27 AM | PERMALINK
Melaninsheviks. The real menace.
Posted by: Davis X. Machina on May 21, 2010 at 1:04 PM | PERMALINK