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June 10, 2010

KRISTOL THE CLOWN.... In dealing with the BP oil spill disaster, NBC's Matt Lauer suggested to President Obama this week that "this is not the time to meet with experts and advisers," but rather, it's a time to "kick some butt."

The president explained, "I don't sit around just talking to experts because this is a college seminar. We talk to these folks because they potentially have the best answers so I know whose ass to kick."

There's been a little too much scrutiny of this, most of it focused around the word "ass." The Weekly Standard's Bill Kristol, however, has his own unique take on the remarks. (via Jon Chait)

Guess the criticism of him as a professor and seminar leader has gotten to him. But his pseudo-macho defense of "talking to experts" is itself professorial: He talks to experts so he'll "know whose ass to kick." Real men don't need experts to tell them whose asses to kick.

As Adam Serwer put it, "There's so much stupid in this sentence you could freebase it."

As a rule, when chickenhawk neocons start beating their chest and talking about "real men," it's time to reach for the Maalox. But Kristol's nonsense is especially nauseating because it reinforces his most disturbing qualities.

To hear Kristol explain it, "real men" should just "kick ass," regardless of guidance from those who know what they're talking about. This is, to be sure, anti-intellectualism taken to a pathetic level, but it also points to a fundamental recklessness that permeates far-right thought.

In Kristol's vision, one imagines President Obama would head down to the Gulf Coast with a baseball bat, swinging it wildly in a variety of directions, like a blindfolded child aiming for a pinata. Obama could presumably ask someone what direction to swing the bat in, but that would be a sign of weakness -- if the president is a "real man," he'll just know intuitively who deserves a beating.

Remember, Bill Kristol is one of the most influential voices in Republican politics. When I lament the intellectual bankruptcy of the right in the 21st century, this is what I'm talking about.

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Kristol merely yearns for some Dubya-style decisioner-decider action. Like what got us into Iraq, cheered on by William the Bloody.

That nincompoops such as Kristol inhabit such lofty positions in our national discourse as a member of the Very Serious People ™, and with such a wide audience, is emblematic of all that is wrong with our Fourth Estate.

Posted by: terraformer on June 10, 2010 at 1:37 PM | PERMALINK

Well I got another question or two for Bill. What does he know about "real men?" What he makes at least a million a year. Lives in NYC. Attends dinner parties weekly none of us could get within a few blocks of.

I wonder when was the last time he did an "honest" days work. Heck I wonder when was the last time he mowed his own lawn. Snaked out a backed up toilet in his house. Even got on his roof to clean his gutters.

The only way this dude would know a "real man" (or women for that matter) was if one of them "kicked his ass" for saying stupid shit.

Posted by: Tommy on June 10, 2010 at 1:38 PM | PERMALINK

LOL - everyone knows "real men" don't need baseball bats to kick ass.

Posted by: Julene on June 10, 2010 at 1:47 PM | PERMALINK

But Steve "real men", like Shrub, use their gut feeling to guide the way and make decisions for them. See how well that worked?

Posted by: whichwitch on June 10, 2010 at 1:49 PM | PERMALINK

He is the poster child for what's wrong with this country's media and pundit class.
Nepotism. He got to where he is because he's his fathers son. I may have disagreed with his Daddy a lot, but he wasn't a total nincompoop like his son. You listening, Luke?
Entitlement. He get jobs becuase of his name. He goes to the most tony parties, appears on gasbag shows, and pulls in tons of wingnut welfare. No one else on the planet would hire this fucking imbecile, except rich, corrupt conservatives.
Incompetence. My favorite moment on TV recently, was a couple of years ago, when Bloody Bill appeared with Jon Stewart, who asked him, "Have you EVER been right? About ANYTHING?"
Self-rightiousness. 'Nuff said...

This guy has never been right about anything. It's an amazing track record. Simply amazing! I mean, even a poor blind squirrel finds an acorn every once in awhile.

Posted by: c u n d gulag on June 10, 2010 at 1:49 PM | PERMALINK

"There's so much stupid in this sentence you could freebase it."

You have made my day! I have just linked this to my fifty first best friends. If that doesn't describe Kristol I don't know what does...he is the MAN that picked Sarah Palin for Johnny (we hardly know ye) McCain...and THAT should tell you everything...

Posted by: SYSPROG on June 10, 2010 at 1:50 PM | PERMALINK

Of course, Cheney and his sidekick, George the lesser, are probably the two Obama should kick hardest for sabotaging deregulation of off shore drilling.

Posted by: Johnny Canuck on June 10, 2010 at 1:51 PM | PERMALINK

I wonder when was the last time he did an "honest" days work. Heck I wonder when was the last time he mowed his own lawn. Snaked out a backed up toilet in his house. Even got on his roof to clean his gutters.

Posted by: Tommy

i was wondering if he takes out his own garbage. then i thought, of course he does. that's where his columns come from.

Posted by: mudwall jackson on June 10, 2010 at 1:52 PM | PERMALINK

I don't understand. You think George W. Bush wandering around the world like a baby with a hammer was a bad thing?

Posted by: Qalice on June 10, 2010 at 1:56 PM | PERMALINK

"real men" should just "kick ass,"

Hence, the war in Iraq, a country that didn't attack us and didn't have WMD.

That's working out so well, isn't it? Thanks, Bill.

Posted by: biggerbox on June 10, 2010 at 1:59 PM | PERMALINK

A while ago, during the Bushit regime, a writer said this about "W":

"this guy was born on third base and thought he hit a triple"

Kristol is pretty much the same. Proximal bravado due to birth status.

Nauseating on so, so many levels...

Posted by: stevio on June 10, 2010 at 2:04 PM | PERMALINK

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Real men don't need experts to tell them whose asses to kick.
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You mean like Bush invading Iraq?

Posted by: eightnine2718281828mu5 on June 10, 2010 at 2:06 PM | PERMALINK

He should be a real man like Kristol, who doesn't even allow comments on his POS scribbling at the Standard.

Projecting much, you loser?

Posted by: chuck dc on June 10, 2010 at 2:09 PM | PERMALINK

What does William Irvingson Kristol know about being a real man?

Posted by: CJColucci on June 10, 2010 at 2:12 PM | PERMALINK

It's breathtaking that men like Kristol were the agenda setters of America's foreign and domestic policy for 8 years.

I don't know if that's more of an indictment of Kristol and his conservative brethen or the American electorate at-large.

Posted by: Archon on June 10, 2010 at 2:12 PM | PERMALINK

I am a real man, and little Billy Kristol better hope we don't run into each other.

Posted by: Tiparillo on June 10, 2010 at 2:15 PM | PERMALINK

Obama should not have said "so I know whose ass to kick."

He should have said "so I know whose ass needs to be indicted, prosecuted, convicted and imprisoned".

Posted by: SecularAnimist on June 10, 2010 at 2:17 PM | PERMALINK

"this guy was born on third base and thought he hit a triple"

Actually Jim Hightower said this about Daddy Bush back in 1988...perhaps it could be rephrased for Shrub "this guy was born on home plate and thought he hit a homerun"

Posted by: whichwitch on June 10, 2010 at 2:17 PM | PERMALINK

@ stevio...
you're right. it's a great quote.
but it was said by ann richards at the '88 dem convention about w's daddy, george h.w.
applies to shub as well, tho.

Posted by: mellowjohn on June 10, 2010 at 2:18 PM | PERMALINK

Kristol knows whose but to kick...Iran! I'm sure he can use his "logic" in some convoluted way to make them responsible, and then...war!

Posted by: Kevin on June 10, 2010 at 2:19 PM | PERMALINK

good grief ... the last person to even have a clue about what qualifies for 'real men' is little billie kristol.

Posted by: bkny on June 10, 2010 at 2:24 PM | PERMALINK

The Republican Party: kicking asses without the benefit of expert guidance, and thereby wrecking the country, since 1980.

Posted by: Mithrandir on June 10, 2010 at 2:26 PM | PERMALINK

Bill needs to return to "The Daily Show" so Jon can "kick his ass" yet again.

Posted by: robalog on June 10, 2010 at 2:28 PM | PERMALINK

Pretty funny, Kristol talking about "real men."

When he tells us what a prissy, pudgy little limp-wristed girlie boy would do, I'll listen.

Posted by: Jon on June 10, 2010 at 2:28 PM | PERMALINK

Actually, Ann Richards' best quote about George H.W. at the '88 Democratic Convention was "Poor George. He can't help it - he was born with a silver foot in his mouth."

That applies equally -- perhaps more so -- to slimy little nepotism cases like Bill Kristol. Really, Maalox just isn't strong enough when reading about some of these people.

Posted by: electrolite on June 10, 2010 at 2:29 PM | PERMALINK

Okay - I had to get to the root of the "born on third base" quote although it was Hightower who said it at the Demo convention in 1988 it should be credited to Barry Switzer, the legendary head football coach at the University of Oklahoma, was quoted in the Chicago Tribune in 1986 as saying, "Some people are born on third base and go through life thinking they hit a triple."

Posted by: whichwitch on June 10, 2010 at 2:39 PM | PERMALINK

Fuckin' Idiot Party.

Posted by: David Bailey on June 10, 2010 at 2:44 PM | PERMALINK

Oh my, this is even more interesting considering who it is about...

Time magazine's Susan Fraker, who wrote this in the May 30, 1983, issue about Superior Oil head honcho Howard Keck: "People who know him say that he can be vindictive and that he often acts capriciously. And like many very rich people, he is not accustomed to anyone disagreeing with him. The trouble with Howard, an acquaintance says, is that 'he was born on third base and thinks he hit a triple.'"


(sorry, I kind of over did the work on this one particular quote!)

Posted by: whichwitch on June 10, 2010 at 2:47 PM | PERMALINK

Kristol is a pu$$y. There I said it. You know you were thinking it.

Posted by: Scott F. on June 10, 2010 at 2:57 PM | PERMALINK

Kristol has the instincts of a courtier-- his statement makes sense in the context of a weak-willed President who takes flattery seriously. "You make decisions with your guts," says Bill, "you're a real man." The message to the various Republican political wannabes is "Hire me, and I'll make you feel good about yourself, no matter what."

I'll bet that worked with George-- and that was great for Bill, although so good for the country.

Posted by: MattF on June 10, 2010 at 2:57 PM | PERMALINK

Even more infuriating is thinking about all the unemployed people out there who have skills, talent, brains and something to actually offer the world, and this douchebag gets paid six figures a year.

Posted by: electrolite on June 10, 2010 at 3:01 PM | PERMALINK

"Real men don't need experts to tell them whose asses to kick."

Damn staight. You just need a really cool pair of sunglasses, and you can see who needs the ass kicking.

However, real men might need those experts to take names. That usually requires a lot of book learnin'.

Posted by: 2Manchu on June 10, 2010 at 3:16 PM | PERMALINK

You know whose ass needs to be thoroughly kicked? Bill Kristol's. That smarmy bastard.

Posted by: kc on June 10, 2010 at 3:20 PM | PERMALINK

You're all missing the essential brilliance of Mr. Benen's post: the title is a Simpson's reference.

And it works on multiple levels, since Krusty the Clown is Jewish.

Posted by: Shade Tail on June 10, 2010 at 3:25 PM | PERMALINK

William Kristol reminds me of those sycophantic 98-lb kids who hang around with the jocks in the hopes that they won't get their own asses kicked...or have their own manhood questioned.

It's called Butch Assurance.

Posted by: Mustang Bobby on June 10, 2010 at 3:34 PM | PERMALINK

You're all missing the essential brilliance of Mr. Benen's post: the title is a Simpson's reference.

It's a bit unfair to Krusty, though, as Krusty is a.) funny and b.) is actually a decent guy ("I'm gonna take you kids to the happiest place on earth...Tijuana!!!").

Bill Kristol fails, utterly, on both counts.

Posted by: electrolite on June 10, 2010 at 3:53 PM | PERMALINK

Obama used the a-word once; Benen uses he-who-we-do-not-name-but-begins-with-a-K-and-is-a-synonym-for-the-a-word 5 times.

And to think that I nominated the guy for Helen Thomas's front-row chair! Oh, the humanity!!!

Posted by: S. Waybright on June 10, 2010 at 4:22 PM | PERMALINK

I believe that every ten years or so, the President of the United States should take one of the world's biggest oil conglomerates, and throw it up against the wall, just to show everyone we mean business.

Posted by: doshaburi on June 10, 2010 at 4:27 PM | PERMALINK

Kristol isn't dumb. His comment is meta - talking about all the talk. Which is all the gossipy media is for. Would he really say, "real men don't need experts to tell them whose asses to kick" with a straight face?

He's a lying neocon ass$%#@, but he's got an IQ higher than 90. I'd put him around 135. Smart, not a genius. Still a lying neocon dirtbag schmuck though.

Posted by: flubber on June 10, 2010 at 4:58 PM | PERMALINK

Interesting, and very unintellectual statement coming from one of the ultimate elitist pansy-asses.

Interesting that criticism of Obama's statement don't include Laurer's insult, to which the statement was a response.

Posted by: Marnie on June 10, 2010 at 5:58 PM | PERMALINK

Bill Kristol, once again, proves he's dickless.

Posted by: jcgrim on June 10, 2010 at 6:08 PM | PERMALINK

Can someone please arrange to have the shit kicked out of this punk, just once?
How tough can the penalties for assault-with-intent-to-improve-behavior be? And surely we can find somebody willing to risk that, esp since it seems plausible that a jury might deem it "justifiable"? The smarmy little rodent's smug facial expression alone could arguably be presented as the visual equivalent of "fighting words."

Posted by: smartalek on June 10, 2010 at 6:41 PM | PERMALINK

What I recall about Kristol's bout with Stewart on TDS was Stewart calling him out on his bullshit and Kristol's amused, secure smile. He seems to know he can say anything and get away with it. He's so inside, so connected that he could confess to murder and walk--a pissy version of Noah Cross in "Chinatown".
That explains his presence on TV. Why anyone even close to power would take a syllable of his advice is another question.

Posted by: Steve Paradis on June 10, 2010 at 9:42 PM | PERMALINK

Kick ass first, ask questions later. That's normal policy for the right. Remember why we're in Iraq? It's payback for 9/11. Never mind asking the experts who to kick.

Posted by: Greg Goss on June 11, 2010 at 1:20 PM | PERMALINK

I have no idea

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