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June 29, 2010

BOEHNER GOES OFF, SAYS DEMS 'SNUFFING OUT' AMERICA.... House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) chatted yesterday with the Scaife-owned Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, and apparently felt pretty good about himself.

House Minority Leader John Boehner, the Ohio Republican with his eye on Speaker Nancy Pelosi's gavel, said the tide is turning the GOP's way.

"The American people have written off the Democrats," Boehner said Monday in an interview with Tribune-Review editors and reporters. "They're willing to look at us again."

Well, "writing off" Dems seems more than a little excessive. More Americans consider themselves Democrats than Republicans; more Americans have a favorable opinion of Democrats than Republicans; more Americans trust Democrats to handle the biggest issues of the day than Republicans; and if one excludes Rasmussen, the generic congressional ballot looks pretty competitive for Democrats, too.

Boehner said the protests are emblematic of deep voter anger against Washington's leaders.

"They're snuffing out the America that I grew up in," Boehner said. "Right now, we've got more Americans engaged in their government than at any time in our history. There's a political rebellion brewing, and I don't think we've seen anything like it since 1776."

For a lawmaker who intends to be Speaker of the House, this is pretty irresponsible language. "Snuffing out"? Seriously?

The health care law passed in March "pushed most Americans over the edge," Boehner said.

Well, no, not really. Public attitudes towards the health care law have improved in recent months, and opposition has fallen. The Affordable Care Act may have pushing most Republican members of Congress over the edge, but not "most Americans."

Boehner proceeded to threaten to repeal health care reform, voiced his opposition to Wall Street reform, defended offshore coastal oil drilling and said Obama overreacted to the BP spill crisis, and voiced support for increasing the Social Security retirement age to 70 for people who have at least 20 years until retirement -- in order to get enough money to pay for the wars in the Middle East.

Quite an interview, to be sure.

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actually, boehner, from what i can tell, americans, those small people with actual beating hearts, are writing off both parties because they make all these promises then go leg humping big business "personages" instead.


Posted by: Kill Bill on June 29, 2010 at 10:53 AM | PERMALINK

The Affordable Care Act may have pushing most Republican members of Congress over the edge, but not "most Americans."

Whatever it is that drove "most Americans," it wasn't the Act itself, but Republican rhetoric about it. Which makes Boehner's use of that data point tautological.

...increasing the Social Security retirement age to 70 for people who have at least 20 years until retirement...

Didn't I hear recently that the French were protesting a plan to raise their retirement age from 60 to 62?

Posted by: Grumpy on June 29, 2010 at 10:54 AM | PERMALINK

voice support for increasing the Social Security retirement age to 70 for people who have at least 20 years until retirement -- in order to get enough money to pay for the wars in the Middle East.

Boehner must be getting tainted batches of bronzer from China.

Posted by: Oh my on June 29, 2010 at 10:56 AM | PERMALINK

Why does John Boehner hate America so much?

Someone should ask him that question.

Posted by: Rochester on June 29, 2010 at 11:01 AM | PERMALINK

"[Boehner] voiced support for increasing the Social Security retirement age to 70 for people who have at least 20 years until retirement -- in order to get enough money to pay for the wars in the Middle East."

Good God.

Boehner reminds me that most of our defense budget should be included in any calculation of oil subsidies.

Posted by: Chris on June 29, 2010 at 11:09 AM | PERMALINK

Let me say it again. Boehner and his ilk do not want to go back to the 'country they grew up in'. They want to go to some Conservative Alternate Reality. Of course, when they get there they won't have the Dems to bail their ass out and THEN what will happen? Who IS John Galt?

Posted by: SYSPROG on June 29, 2010 at 11:12 AM | PERMALINK

When he says the American People have "written off" the Democrats, what he likely means is it's getting close enough that a steal could be pulled off without too many people shaking their heads and muttering, "That can't be right".

Nobody seems to think it's worth discussing what damage might be done to America's he-man self image to have a speaker who's an inveterate and overemotional crybaby. Who's next, Glenn Beck?

Posted by: Mark on June 29, 2010 at 11:15 AM | PERMALINK

Pish posh. Like the rest of his party, when he talks about "most" Americans, the Orange Boner is clearly only talking about real Americans. You know, Real Americans. Real wink*wink*nudge*nudge* Americans. Real, Hard Working 100% pure Americans. As opposed to them. Oh, you know, Them. Those non-real Americans who are clearly the sole beneficiaries of all the terrible, terrible freedom-destroying things that this Administration as done. It is a source of continuing grievance to us that they're even allowed to vote, what with them not being actual Real Americans and all. That's why we support repeal of the the 17th Amendment. The fewer things They are allowed to vote for, the better.

Posted by: Steve (Not That One) on June 29, 2010 at 11:29 AM | PERMALINK

All the calls for revolution will go down the memory hole when the next wingnut goes on a shooting spree.

Posted by: Second Amendment on June 29, 2010 at 11:29 AM | PERMALINK

What is wrong with increasing the SS retirement eligibility to 70yo? Not to fund foreign wars, but to improve the deficit picture. Modern medicine is helping most of us live much longer, more productive lives. I dont mind working a few extra years for the privilege.

Posted by: troglodyte on June 29, 2010 at 11:31 AM | PERMALINK

boehner wants to raise the age of retirement so that 7% [fica] can go to wall street [if they get it privatized / personalized] for years more.

i dont see how raising the retirement age will help open up jobs for those just of of school / college as we arent creating enough jobs as it is.

Posted by: Kill Bill on June 29, 2010 at 11:36 AM | PERMALINK

troglodyte,

What is wrong with increasing the SS retirement eligibility to 70yo? Not to fund foreign wars, but to improve the deficit picture.

How about the fact that Social Security is not driving the massive federal deficits ? According to the CBO, the current federal deficits and debt, as well as the projected federal deficits and debt, are primarily as a result of the four rounds of tax cuts for the Rich & Corporate enacted by Chimpy Bush and the Republicans.

Posted by: Joe Friday on June 29, 2010 at 11:41 AM | PERMALINK

What is wrong with increasing the SS retirement eligibility to 70yo? Not to fund foreign wars, but to improve the deficit picture. Modern medicine is helping most of us live much longer, more productive lives. I dont mind working a few extra years for the privilege.
Posted by: troglodyte

I'll tell you why:

No. 1 Why should "future" old people be working to pay for Bush/Cheney's wet-dream phony war?

No. 2 Why should "future" old people be working to pay for Bush/Cheney's tax cuts for billionaires?

No. 3 Why the fuck is the party of "burdening our children with debt" suddenly now okey dokey with pushing the retirement curve onto younger people. Fuck you GOP. You want to pay for your bullshit you need to look grandma and grandpa in the eye and tell them to get back to work.

Posted by: Oh my on June 29, 2010 at 11:42 AM | PERMALINK

I don't think we've seen anything like it since 1776

So, bloodier than the Revolution, but not as bloody as the Civil War? With the Articles of Confederation in between?

Boehner ain't no Jefferson.

Posted by: martin on June 29, 2010 at 11:50 AM | PERMALINK

Boehner proceeded to threaten to repeal health care reform, voiced his opposition to Wall Street reform, defended offshore coastal oil drilling and said Obama overreacted to the BP spill crisis, and voiced support for increasing the Social Security retirement age to 70 for people who have at least 20 years until retirement -- in order to get enough money to pay for the wars in the Middle East.

What we need to remember is that the Republicans "won" in 1994 not because they increased the number of Republican voters, but rather because the Democratic voters didn't vote. This message, of what the Republicans really want to do if they return to power, has got to be put out over and over and over. Democrats have to get out and vote this November!

It doesn't matter if there are more Americans who consider themselves Democrats, have a better view of Democrats than Republicans, etc., if they DON'T VOTE.

If I can hold my nose long enough to vote for @#%$^%$#@!! Jerry Brown for the first time since 1974, on the grounds that Meg Whitman has to be kept out of the Governor's office, there's no progressive Democrat in the country who can't vote for any Democrat running over any Republican.

Vote like it's January 1933 in Germany, folks. Because it is.

Posted by: TCinLA on June 29, 2010 at 11:51 AM | PERMALINK

"For a lawmaker who intends to be Speaker of the House"

Irony? I think so. Why doesn't the leathery over tanned drunk get the hell out of congress then?

Posted by: SaintZak on June 29, 2010 at 11:55 AM | PERMALINK
more Americans engaged in their government than at any time in our history.

Yeah, sure, there are more teabaggers than people who participated in the Obama campaign.

The funniest thing is, I get the impression the Boner actually believes his own BS. That certainly makes it easier to sound convincing, but it tends to lead to bad strategy (e.g. Rove's "the" math.)

Posted by: Redshift on June 29, 2010 at 12:04 PM | PERMALINK

Ah yes. The American the Great Pumpkin grew up in. Let's see. He was born in 49, so he's talking 1950-1970. Why, that wasn't a very nice time to be alive, unless you were a st8 Caucasian male. Why in the world would he want to go back to a time like that?

Hmm... Oh wait Steve (nto) answered my question.

Seriously, dog whistles aside, I assume the GOP doesn't plan to do any outreach to young voters.

Or maybe they're dumb enough to think "Help rebuild the America your Grandfather grew up in (the boring one with only half a dozen TV stations, no Internet or cell phones, and you couldn't vote until you're 21 but you could get drafted)," will have wide spread appeal.

Posted by: The Answer WAS Orange on June 29, 2010 at 12:10 PM | PERMALINK

Of course, Boehner also said he'd never met anyone who was in favor of the public option.

Posted by: Frank Lynch on June 29, 2010 at 12:11 PM | PERMALINK

troglodyte - the other point is that while many of us our living longer, healthier lives, the people most dependent on Social Security are the least likely to live long or be healthy in old age. Working in physical labor and not being able to afford good medical care make it likely that you will be unable to choose to work longer, so this change would fall most heavily on those with few means, not just on those who could work longer but can afford not to.

Posted by: Redshift on June 29, 2010 at 12:15 PM | PERMALINK

It sounds to me as though this demented Senator is urging us to hurry out and join the nearest Chapter of our friendly neighborhood Civil or Revolutionary war, whichever is more convenient !

Posted by: Judith Martinez on June 29, 2010 at 12:17 PM | PERMALINK

Okay, and I'm being serious here, what IS up with that skin color? Does he think he looks good with it? And how does he actually attain that color? Does he use a tanning bed? Or a roll-on bronzer? Does he take frequent vacations to sunny spots?

I am serious.

Oh, and TCinLA@11.51a is dead-on right about getting Dems out to vote this November. Must be "job-one" of the DCCC, DSCC, and the DNC. And fuck those "progressives" who complain Obama and crew haven't "done enough".

Posted by: phoebes-in-santa fe on June 29, 2010 at 12:18 PM | PERMALINK

I love listening to Boehner preach about what Americans are really thinking and feeling. At this point, Republicans in Congress literally have NOTHING. No meaningful agenda, no aspirations, no goals. They don't even have facts or public opinion on their side.
The truth is, all they have is tax cuts, pro-corporate ideology, and Boehner's wistful nostalgia for the simpler days of segregation and misogyny. What a horrible jackass.

Posted by: Govt Skeptic on June 29, 2010 at 12:36 PM | PERMALINK

The Country I grew up in = the country that rewarded people like me over all others and didn't have to pretend to respect the Elena Kagans and Thurgood Marshalls of the world, let alone suffer having them appointed to the Supreme Court and having more power than I do.

Posted by: Barbara on June 29, 2010 at 12:51 PM | PERMALINK

"There's a political rebellion brewing, and I don't think we've seen anything like it since 1776."

So, is Boehner advocating secession, or the overthrow of the government?

Posted by: 2Manchu on June 29, 2010 at 2:33 PM | PERMALINK

"Voiced support for increasing the Social Security retirement age to 70 for people who have at least 20 years until retirement -- in order to get enough money to pay for the wars in the Middle East"

I got one, I got one! How about... increasing the Pentagon budget to $1 trillion per year to pay for my retirement?

Posted by: Ohioan on June 29, 2010 at 3:42 PM | PERMALINK

Funny stuff by The Answer WAS Orange @ 12:10 - hey, Orange, haven't seen you around for awhile, but you obviously haven't lost your sense of humour.

That post is nearly as funny as one somebody made during the McCain/Obama campaign, referring to McCain - "Tell the story again about when the first car came to town, Grampy; I love that one".

My all-time favourite, I wish I knew who wrote that; I laughed until I began to wonder if it was time to make the move to adult diapers.

Posted by: Mark on June 29, 2010 at 4:24 PM | PERMALINK

..increasing the Social Security retirement age to 70 for people who have at least 20 years until retirement...
Well thats a win-win for the repubs, since with the current state many of those over 50 have little or no chance of finding a job, so surely within 20 years they will either die of starvation or lack of health care, which means that all that money they paid into SS will be available for Corporate welfare or some other wealth enhancing scheme for the rich.

Posted by: grandpajohn on June 29, 2010 at 5:52 PM | PERMALINK

Ah yes. The American the Great Pumpkin grew up in. Let's see. He was born in 49, so he's talking 1950-1970. Why, that wasn't a very nice time to be alive, unless you were a st8 Caucasian male. Why in the world would he want to go back to a time like that?

Posted by: The Answer WAS Orange on June 29, 2010 at 12:10 PM

Not only that, but it's curious the Pumpkin wants to go back to that time, seeing that those years saw economic prosperity and an unprecedented growth of the middle class. Wall Street was reigned in by sensible regulation, corporations actually employed Americans, a college education was actually achievable, innovation and design in architecture and engineering was at an all-time high, and America was a "can do" nation. We even put a man on the moon.

Boehner and his cohort have spent the last 30 years doing everything in their power to tear all that down, and have been depressingly successful. Funny how he should pine for the "good old days" when his party is one of the primary reasons they don't exist anymore.

Posted by: electrolite on June 29, 2010 at 7:16 PM | PERMALINK

Great article!

Mr Boehner now has his finger on the pulse of the country?!?! I think not.

Many I speak with are angry at most politicians for volume, finger pointing and overall inaction regarding the myriad of problems we face as a nation.

Posted by: Jane Q on June 30, 2010 at 12:34 PM | PERMALINK




 

 

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