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July 24, 2010

OBAMA SHINES A BRIGHT LIGHT ON BOEHNER'S 'IDEAS' ON JOBS.... It was largely overlooked during a busy media week, but House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio), who's been reluctant to talk about his party's policy agenda in detail, was willing to outline three measures he'd pursue as Speaker to create American jobs. The list made it painfully clear -- to anyone who takes substance even a little seriously -- that Boehner has no idea what he's talking about.

In fact, the remarks were so patently ridiculous, President Obama devoted much of his weekly address to shining a bright light on Boehner's understanding of job creation.

After talking in some detail about his own approach to economic growth, Obama warned against going back "to the same ideas that created this mess in the first place," adding, "Unfortunately, those are the ideas we keep hearing from our friends in the other party."

"This week, the Republican leader in the House of Representatives offered his plan to create jobs," the president explained. "It's a plan that's surprisingly short, and sadly familiar. First, he would repeal health insurance reform, which would take away tax credits from millions of small business owners, and take us back to the days when insurance companies had free rein to drop coverage and jack up premiums. Second, he would say no to new investments in clean energy, after his party already voted against the clean energy tax credits and loans that are creating thousands of new jobs and hundreds of new businesses. And third, even though his party voted against tax cuts for middle-class families, he would permanently keep in place the tax cuts for the very wealthiest Americans - the same tax cuts that have added hundreds of billions to our debt.

"These are not new ideas. They are the same policies that led us into this recession. They will not create jobs; they will kill them. They will not reduce our deficit; they will add $1 trillion to our deficit. They will take us backward at a time when we need to keep America moving forward."

If you listen really carefully at the 3:44 mark, you'll notice that the president actually chuckles, just a little, when describing just how ridiculous Boehner's approach to job creation really is.

That's what it has come to in 2010 -- the Republican agenda is so truly awful, it's hard to describe it without finding it literally comical.

Steve Benen 11:30 AM Permalink | Trackbacks | Comments (33)

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It's the tax cuts stupid...

Loved that bit about Boehner wanting to roll back tax cuts for the middle class while keeping the tax cuts for the most wealthy. That is the message that resonates.

Keep It Simple For Stupid...
Make it about tax cuts: Ours versus theirs.

That's a winner....


Posted by: koreyel on July 24, 2010 at 11:39 AM | PERMALINK

Obama shouldn't just chuckle. He should laugh, openly and loudly at their 'idea's.'
Mockery is the insincerest form of flattery.
Mybe if we mock them, the public will finally understand.

Posted by: c u n d gulag on July 24, 2010 at 11:51 AM | PERMALINK

The problem is the media does not chuckle when they describe the republican plans. That is if the describe them in an honest manner or at all. Usually they just give the republicans a sound bite that sounds nice and leave it at that.

Posted by: cheflovesbeer on July 24, 2010 at 11:58 AM | PERMALINK

I think our tax cuts vs. theirs is NOT a winner. Gore tried it, and he looked ridiculous. We CAN offer some tax cuts, but it has to be a part of a larger story about power, big guys vs. little guys, etc. That story must be primary.

I shudder at the memory of Gore's capitulation on tax cuts in the 2000 campaign, though. Jeebus.

Posted by: Frank C. on July 24, 2010 at 12:09 PM | PERMALINK

We complain about Obama, but every now and then, we should take a step back and say "you know, Obama is right." I know, we should keep the heat on him. But he's doing the best he can, and he's done a lot. Be grateful it's not president McCain.

Posted by: fostert on July 24, 2010 at 12:31 PM | PERMALINK

fostert@12.31p is absolutely correct. Obama is doing a fabulous job digging our country out after 8 years of Bush/Cheney. I can deal with the Republicans dissing him - that's what they're there for - but I can't stand the progressive Dems pissing and moaning, saying he's not "progressive enough", so they're not going to vote in 2010 or some other nonsense.

In their own naive way, the progressive Dems are as bad as the Palin/TeaBaggers.

Posted by: phoebes-in-santa fe on July 24, 2010 at 12:43 PM | PERMALINK

And dissing progressives, particularly when no progressives in the thread have dissed Obama, is also completely unhelpful and unnecessary.

Posted by: cr on July 24, 2010 at 1:02 PM | PERMALINK

cr, if we can't take a little criticism ourselves, we have no right to govern. The very nature of leading means that some people need a little prodding to move along. And those people will bitch. If you can't take that bitching, then you can't lead. Grow the fuck up.

Posted by: fostert on July 24, 2010 at 1:15 PM | PERMALINK

Two things:

1. Jane and Joe Sixpak have been hearing for years now that "the government should be run like a business;" that "you can't spend your way out of debt;" that "we need to cut spending in a recession;" and that "tax cuts to business and the investor class will create jobs." They have, as of yet, no solid reason to believe otherwise.
Among other things, they need to hear -- and it would help if they heard it from names they recognized -- that no matter how much of a tax break a firm or investor gets, they're not going to invest penny one without an expectation of a positive return on the investment. And until Jane and Joe Sixpak feel like they're on solid financial ground, they're not going to spend more than they have to. No consumer spending, no investment, and no investment, no jobs. What's been the only thing keeping the economy going this past year and a half? That's right -- the federal stimulus expenditures that the Publicans held down, call "Porkulus," and claim, deceitfully, didn't work, even as they took credit for the positive effects it had in their own districts.
What Obama's saying now is good -- but it's got to be repeated, backed up, and expanded upon, with as many voices as possible adding to the message, especially voices from the private sector.

2. I think in the headline, which currently reads, "OBAMA SHINES A BRIGHT LINE..." there's a typo, and the word is supposed to be "light"?

Posted by: smartalek on July 24, 2010 at 1:20 PM | PERMALINK

It was largely overlooked during a busy media week, but House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio), who's been reluctant to talk about his party's policy agenda in detail...

Well this week we had that fabulous distraction keeping the media away from anything having to do with policy.

Which is just as well for Boehner, who's been reluctant to talk about policy agenda details in the same vein that that batshit crazy Nevada Senate candidate is reluctant to talk about her agenda: The details would alarm more people than would attract.

There is a reason McCain is always the R's face on the Sunday morning talk shows. It keeps the R leadership from having to actually talk about their agenda. That would heighten the risk that more people would catch on.

Posted by: jcricket on July 24, 2010 at 1:21 PM | PERMALINK

"Jane and Joe Sixpak have been hearing for years now that "the government should be run like a business;"

That's actually the most dangerous concept ever. There is a difference between microeconomics and macroeconomics. A business runs on micro, and the government runs on macro. They are fundamentally different and to say they should be the same is to deny reality. It's like proposing that the sun should rise in the west. We can propose that, but the sun and the earth will behave as they do regardless of what we say.

Here's a simple explanation that involves an obviously theoretical wold. The world has three farmers and they only grow rice. And everyone only eats rice. It's seemingly obvious that every farmer should produce as much rice as they can. That's the micro world. But if the three farmers do that, the price of the rice drops. That's the macro world. In the end, the farmers actually lose money by producing more. John Nash explained this much more elegantly than I can (he got the Nobel and I won't), but this concept should be easy to understand. In the real world, markets work best when they are both competitive and cooperative. That doesn't happen naturally and must come from government regulation. Sounds scary, but it is what works. I'm an engineer, and I know that limiting my options actually makes me design faster. Ask me "design something" and I don't know where to start. Tell me to design an implant for lumbar surgery, and then I know what to do. The limitations are actually what makes the progress.

Posted by: fostert on July 24, 2010 at 1:55 PM | PERMALINK

Even though this thread is free of whining about Obama, there's been loads of it from the progressive wing of Democratic Party, so I agree with phoebus-in-santa fe. All of the progressive media shows blasted him (Obama) for days over the Sherrod matter, especially Lawrence O'Brien who was relentless. Sure they jumped the gun but the real culprit Breitbart skated away with little mention to continue lying on and with, of course, no apology. I can't be the only one to notice the GOP seldom apologizes. Now that snake is lying about the subdued response of the NAACP at Shirley Sherrod's speech and getting away with it in most quarters. There was no cheering ans clapping. If we can't up the enthusiasm gap and close ranks like the GOP does, even in the face of their crap leadership, get ready for congressional investigations on Bo the dog and everything else they can conjure up.

Posted by: Kathryn on July 24, 2010 at 2:00 PM | PERMALINK

In fact, the remarks were so patently ridiculous, President Obama devoted much of his weekly address to shining a bright light on Boehner's understanding of job creation.
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Much more of this please, and a lot less of anonymous aides crying to Drudge2.0 that the hippies aren't clapping loudly enough.
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© on July 24, 2010 at 2:01 PM | PERMALINK

More of this please but try "As your President I believe that we are headed in th right direction". You are the leader, we are headed in the right direction and the Representative from Ohio is an orange windbag who is peddling entropic policy again.... using clear languge to communicate is imperative. keep this up!

Posted by: Trollop on July 24, 2010 at 2:02 PM | PERMALINK

forstert: cr, if we can't take a little criticism ourselves, we have no right to govern. The very nature of leading means that some people need a little prodding to move along. And those people will bitch. If you can't take that bitching, then you can't lead. Grow the fuck up.

First, I seriously doubt if you "govern" or "lead" anything. Based on your comments in this thread, I'm not even sure you can read properly.

Second, I'm usually the one on these threads taking on "progressives" for unnecessarily attacking Obama. The one time I step out in defense of progressives, when they're being directly compared to teabaggers, you think you have some right to tell me to "grow the fuck up?"

Three, go to hell, jerk.

Posted by: cr on July 24, 2010 at 2:25 PM | PERMALINK

Second, I'm usually the one on these threads taking on "progressives" for unnecessarily attacking Obama. The one time I step out in defense of progressives, when they're being directly compared to teabaggers, you think you have some right to tell me to "grow the fuck up?"
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Nonetheless, you are not clapping loudly enough, cr.

The Inner Party expects you to deliver your Self-criticism by the end of the week.
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© on July 24, 2010 at 2:43 PM | PERMALINK


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Posted by: jordanto on July 24, 2010 at 2:58 PM | PERMALINK

@ittdgy

Get a haircut, hippie.

Posted by: cr on July 24, 2010 at 3:05 PM | PERMALINK

"Three, go to hell, jerk."

Nice argument. The previous two points were slightly better, but not by much. My point about as innocuous as it gets. We should criticize Obama but also recognize that he's done good things. And this is somehow controversial. Apparently, black and white are both offended by gray.

Posted by: fostert on July 24, 2010 at 3:20 PM | PERMALINK

And yet, he's going to lose to them.

Ah well.

I think you should call Boehner a "Policy Pipsqueak" from now on. I know Steve, you are opposed to harsh language in your gig here, but I think "Policy Pipsqueek Boehner" has a good ring to it.

Posted by: MNPundit on July 24, 2010 at 3:26 PM | PERMALINK

MNPundit: A bit harsh there don't you think? :-)

Posted by: acuvue oasys on July 24, 2010 at 3:29 PM | PERMALINK

If we can't up the enthusiasm gap and close ranks like the GOP does, even in the face of their crap leadership, get ready for congressional investigations on Bo the dog and everything else they can conjure up. - Posted by: Kathryn

it could be a wonderful opportunity: obama goes on t.v. and says

A man down in Texas heard Michelle on the radio mention the fact that our two youngsters would like to have a dog. And believe it or not, the day before we left on this campaign trip we got a message from Union Station in Baltimore, saying they had a package for us. We went down to get it. You know what it was? It was a little Portuguese Water dog in a crate that he'd sent all the way from Texas, black-haired. And our little girls, Malia and Sasha, the six year old, named it "Bo." And you know, the kids, like all kids, love the dog, and I just want to say this, right now, that regardless of what they say about it, we're gonna keep it.

after that, comeback city!

your pal,
blake

Posted by: blake on July 24, 2010 at 4:58 PM | PERMALINK

I guess discussing the irrelevant Republicans is what passes for policy analysis these days. President Obama should have been discussing why he thinks the private sector should expand with the threat of new health, employment, environmental, and financial regulations hanging over their heads.

Until the Democrats can create conditions that will encourage the creation of non-government dependent private sector employment, there is nothing else to talk about.

Posted by: superdestroyer on July 24, 2010 at 5:28 PM | PERMALINK

By President Obama and the Democratic majority leaders in Congress giving the previous Republican administration a free pass, by not holding transparent, full-scale investigations with probable prosecutions for criminal acts, the Democrats left the door open for Republicans to claim some degree of credibility even though their ideas got us into this mess.

By President Obama and the Democratic majority leaders in Congress not reinstating the Fairness Doctrine at the first opportunity, they allowed hardcore media propaganda outlets like Fox News and similar hardcore propaganda right-wing radio programs to continue to operate without any fairness or balance, allowing these media arms of the Republican Party to smear Democrats and the Obama administration continuously and to lie with impunity.

So now the Obama administration and Democrats are in a fix, with a large number of American citizens being fed outright lies on a daily basis, with these citizens being told up is down, right is left, and being told that what would really help all U.S. citizens (progressive liberal policies) would hurt U.S. citizens, while Republican policies (geared only to help the wealthiest and subsequently hurt so many middle-class and poor U.S. citizens) supposedly will help U.S. citizens (all evidence to the contrary, especially during the Bush/Cheney years). And Democratic leaders are having a hard time countering these bald-faced Republican lies.

Posted by: The Oracle on July 24, 2010 at 5:48 PM | PERMALINK

When your serious about serious matters there will be plenty of work to refute the anti American republicants in their savage , pious , trite theories , and lies (mostly lies) .

Posted by: FRP on July 24, 2010 at 6:06 PM | PERMALINK

By President Obama and the Democratic majority leaders in Congress not reinstating the Fairness Doctrine at the first opportunity, they allowed hardcore media propaganda outlets like Fox News...

Oh, puhleeze.

First of all, you do understand that the FD only ever had to do with broadcast licenses, yes? Are you advocating a FD for cable TV too? What about newspapers? Web sites?

Secondly, the idea that every issue can be boiled down to a finite number of "opposing views", usually two, is just silly.

All the Fairness Doctrine does is entrench what's wrong with the he said/he said, "Some say the earth is round but others insist it's flat," tendency of our present media. All the while it shuts out non-Democratic, non-Republican mainstream voices the same as the mainstream media shuts them out now.

Posted by: Equal Opportunity Cynic on July 24, 2010 at 8:50 PM | PERMALINK

And by the way, if you ARE advocating a Fairness Doctrine for cable television, I hope you also have a plan to get the necessary modifications to the First Amendment.

Posted by: Equal Opportunity Cynic on July 24, 2010 at 8:52 PM | PERMALINK

"And by the way, if you ARE advocating a Fairness Doctrine for cable television, I hope you also have a plan to get the necessary modifications to the First Amendment."

Umm, we had the Fairness Doctrine before, and it didn't require any constitutional changes. Regardless, not one Senator supports the Fairness Doctrine. So for it to happen, it will need every Republican and a handful of Democrats to pass. It's already known that the Democrats oppose it, so only the Republicans can pass it. Do you really think every Republican will support it? And then get a few Democrats? Not going to happen.

Posted by: fostert on July 24, 2010 at 10:28 PM | PERMALINK

And let's be real about the Fairness Doctrine. The Republicans are the only people discussing it, so they are the only people who might pass it. If the Republicans want it, it still won't pass until you can get some Blue Dogs to vote with you.

Posted by: fostert on July 24, 2010 at 10:33 PM | PERMALINK

If the goal is to create jobs, Boehner has it about right.

By 2012, I suspect Keynes will finally be dead after all these years.

Posted by: Jim on July 25, 2010 at 3:25 AM | PERMALINK

To anyone in NC (or anywhere else for that matter)
it was good to hear some of the truths about Burr of NC, about his secret holds on Obama nominees who are black or hispanic, about how he was the protege of Jesse Helms (racist). But that is only the tip of the iceberg, he is a coward, he does not give a darn about the people of NC, votes against unemployment compensation, is courting all the corporations for cash and is an evil sneaky individual. (Now I feel better)
Please support Elaine Marshall.

Posted by: js on July 25, 2010 at 6:19 AM | PERMALINK

Right Jim. Especially since it's Keynes that got us here in the first place. What we need is more Chicago economics.

Posted by: joben899 on July 25, 2010 at 9:17 AM | PERMALINK

This is something that the people should be proud of. Despite the resistance of going to the path of real change, our president still gives his untiring effort to rescue of the country from the pit of destruction. The Obama administration definitely paves the way to a better American life. The Republicans plan nothing but setting obstacles at the expense of the current administration!

Posted by: Mark @ Israel on July 25, 2010 at 12:25 PM | PERMALINK




 

 

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