Good, maybe someone will ask Scalia and Alito if they would have been fine with their ancestors being hassled in NY for papers or face deportation.

Oh and OT but,

"In a new paper, the economists argue that without the Wall Street bailout, the bank stress tests, the emergency lending and asset purchases by the Federal Reserve, and the Obama administration’s fiscal stimulus program, the nation’s gross domestic product would be about 6.5 percent lower this year.

In addition, there would be about 8.5 million fewer jobs, on top of the more than 8 million already lost; and the economy would be experiencing deflation, instead of low inflation.

The paper, by Alan S. Blinder, a Princeton professor and former vice chairman of the Fed, and Mark Zandi, chief economist at Moody’s Analytics, represents a first stab at comprehensively estimating the effects of the economic policy responses of the last few years."

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/28/business/economy/28bailout.html

It seriously makes me wonder just how much of an upside the cold war had -- it gave us a great enemy at a distance to vilify and hate. Now, we hate brown people (Latinos, Muslims, etc.) amongst us.

Damn good thing we have a non-reactionary supreme court that would never take the rethugnican, neo-con, reich-wing side on issues like this!

From the court that gave us Citizens United Not Timid vs FEC, we can expect ANYTHING.

Thank god for our supreme court. God bless the United Corporations of Amerikkka!

This is just sad, I wish our government would fight for the rights of its middle class citizens with the same enthusiasm and urgency as it does for those who break our laws.

I was just thinking... A neat protest might be for a group of fair-skinned, light-haired folks to flagrantly drive 15 mph over the speed limit just to get pulled over. Later, other members of the group could sue the police department for not checking papers.

Glad to hear that won't be necessary -- for a while anyway.

I hope the ruling makes that odious Sheriff Arpaio's haid explode.

Cue rightwing screech-fest about "activist judges" in 3, 2, 1 . . .

[...] the New York Times noted that "legal experts predict the case is bound for the United States Supreme Court."

I wonder whether that (getting it in front of the RATS) wasn't *the* point of the law in the first place, the rabid-right rants notwithstanding. Not so much about curbing the illegals/undocumenteds but testing the strength of the state vs federal laws.

This has nothing to do with those who "break our law" and everything to do with hate legislation, diversion politics, and civil liberties. The GOP is using this as a wedge issue to keep the voters from asking their party what are they going to do to put people to work. They don't have solutions so they use bogus legislation and easy targets to keep their base pleased and ignorant.

The need...: It seriously makes me wonder just how much of an upside the cold war had -- it gave us a great enemy at a distance to vilify and hate. Now, we hate brown people (Latinos, Muslims, etc.) amongst us.

There has always been a certain percentage of the population that hates the "other," near or far.

I am afraid the republicans have fed on hate and division in this country, they are trying to divide and conquer.
Most of them do not realize that asking for someone's papers just for the way they look goes back to nazi germany tactics, even before the Berlin Wall came down I travelled to East Berlin & russian guards came on the train and said 'papers please' but I expected it from them at that time.At my age I remember WW2 very well and wonder how far we have come, we are going back at this point.

mikefromArlington,

“In a new paper, the economists argue that without the Wall Street bailout, the bank stress tests, the emergency lending and asset purchases by the Federal Reserve, and the Obama administration’s fiscal stimulus program, the nation’s gross domestic product would be about 6.5 percent lower this year.

In addition, there would be about 8.5 million fewer jobs, on top of the more than 8 million already lost; and the economy would be experiencing deflation, instead of low inflation.”

Don’t mean to nitpick, but we are experiencing deflation:

Safeway Cuts Year View, Cites Price Deflation

(Reuters) - Supermarket operator Safeway Inc (SWY.N) cut its full-year outlook, citing falling prices for its merchandise as it tries to hold on to shoppers in a weak economy, and its shares fell 4 percent.

Safeway executives said the strength of that push on pricing caught them by surprise.

"Deflation continues in price per item and is not expected to significantly improve until the fourth quarter," said Chief Executive Steve Burd, who oversees supermarkets including Safeway, Vons and Dominick's.

Burd acknowledged that retail deflation was much greater than expected in the second quarter and drove a decline in identical-store sales.

REUTERS

# And earlier this month lumber futures were down the daily limit, steel prices fell during all of June, and both June’s Purchasing Managers Index & Manufacturing Index fell.

Good news for once. At least for the moment, it's still not illegal to conduct a conversation in Spanish, or to try to get work doing odd jobs if you don't have a permanent one (either of which would have singled you out for scrutiny under the AZ law). Who knows what those so-called literalists on the SCOTUS will do with it, though.

"A neat protest might be for a group of fair-skinned, light-haired folks to flagrantly drive 15 mph over the speed limit just to get pulled over. Later, other members of the group could sue the police department for not checking papers."

That's a good one. I have another. We get Bolivian president Evo Morales to walk around Phoenix in with no passport and dressed like a farm worker. Few people know what he looks like, so he'll get busted and cause a huge diplomatic incident.

Cue rightwing screech-fest about "activist judges" in 3, 2, 1 . . .

They would have nobody to blame but themselves.

"In 2000, she was recommended by Arizona Senator Jon Kyl, a Republican, for the federal bench. And she was nominated by then-President Clinton."

http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/dpp/news/immigration/profile-susan-bolton-7-8-2010

She was then confirmed by a Senate voice vote that must have been overwhelming not to have a roll call vote. Can anyone say republican majority in the Senate for this vote?

Nomination: PN1157-106
Date Received: July 21, 2000 (106th Congress)
Nominee: Susan Ritchie Bolton, of Arizona, to be United States District Judge for the District of Arizona vice Robert C. Broomfield, retired.
Referred to: Senate Judiciary
Reported by: Senate Judiciary

Legislative Actions
Floor Action: July 21, 2000 - Received in the Senate and referred to the Committee on the Judiciary.
Committee Action: July 25, 2000 - Committee on the Judiciary. Hearings held.
Committee Action: July 27, 2000 - Committee on the Judiciary. Ordered to be reported favorably.
Floor Action: July 27, 2000 - Reported by Senator Hatch, Committee on the Judiciary, without printed report.
Floor Action: July 27, 2000 - Placed on Senate Executive Calendar. Calendar No. 654.
Floor Action: October 03, 2000 - Considered by Senate. pursuant to the order of October 2, 2000.
Floor Action: October 03, 2000 - Confirmed by the Senate by Voice Vote.
Organization: The Judiciary

Control Number: 106PN0115700

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ntquery/D?nomis:28:./temp/~nomis7Yh5hI::

Joe Friday: Don’t mean to nitpick, but we are experiencing deflation:

Don't mean to nitpick, but did you happen to read the study, or even the NYT article, before you started criticizing?

This is just sad, I wish our government would fight for the rights of its middle class citizens with the same enthusiasm and urgency as it does for those who break our laws.

But it is fighting for the right of its citizens -- the right not to be harrassed by police just because they "look foreign" or have an accent.

Though I agree that the government should also crack down on the corporate interests that encourage illegal immigration as a source of cheap and unregulated labor.

With all the hue and cry about illegals I have to wonder why this has come up now, all I seem to remember from the Bush years is that the wealthy wanted the cheap labor, I guess they don't need it now - we are the cheap labor!!

Libs can get hoist on their own petard when they use manipulative babytalk like "immigrant" for "illegal alien." Besides looking illiterate, immoral (illegal entry is a crime), unpatriotic, and manipulative, the same stupid people that libs are trying to manipulate end up getting confused about the legitimacy of legal immigrants!

Did itty Steve do number 1 or number 2? Hey, this babytalk is fun!

Arizona can't argue that passage is vital on the grounds of a crime emergency because Phoenix ranks in the top four safest big US cities, according to FBI.