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August 15, 2010

CORNYN SHOULD TRY TO KEEP UP WITH CURRENT EVENTS.... At a certain level, it's still hard to fathom why the Cordoba House is so controversial. A Burlington Coat Factory store closed down; a local religious leader wants to build a community center at the location. This isn't especially interesting.

At least, it shouldn't be.

National Republican Senatorial Committee Chairman John Cornyn (R-Texas) argued today on Fox News that his party, without a policy agenda or substantive ideas about the future, intends to pit Americans against each other over this issue during the campaign season.

"This is not about freedom of religion," Cornyn said. "I do think it's unwise to build a mosque in the site where 3,000 Americans lost their lives as the result of a terrorist attack."

First, saying it's "not about freedom of religion" doesn't make it so. When the right organizes to prevent a Muslim American from converting a clothing store into a community center, solely because Muslims will pray there, it's quite obviously about freedom of religion.

Second, Cornyn helps pinpoint the basis for conservative opposition: he believes it's "unwise" to "build a mosque in the site where 3,000 Americans lost their lives as the result of a terrorist attack."

No wonder Republicans are so upset -- they have no idea what they're talking about. If someone proposed building a house of worship for a specific faith group "in the site where" 9/11 occurred, I'd oppose it, too.

And while one would hope John Cornyn, never the sharpest crayon in the box, would understand the basics before going on television to talk about a divisive issue, now is as good a time as any to help him understand current events. Let's make this easy for him: no one is talking about building a mosque at Ground Zero. The proposal calls for converting an old Burlington Coat Factory into a community center, a couple of blocks away from Ground Zero.

I'm sure the conservative senator will want to apologize for his mistake, so the public isn't left with the wrong idea. In fact, Cornyn, who'll no doubt be embarrassed by his confusion, should probably let his Republican allies know. Once the right understands that there's no plan to build a mosque at Ground Zero, the whole dispute should fade away.

Right?

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I wish someone would ask him if the mosque that has been in existence 4 blocks from Ground Zero-- it has been there for decades-- should be destroyed and/or moved then? Or does he know if any Muslim victims died on 9/11? Where are their families? I'd love to have the dems trot them out and put this whole asinine, awful "controversy" to bed. Islam did not attack us, some religious extremists did. By that logic no church should be anywhere near the Oklahoma City bombing.

These people don't giving a flying f*ck about NYC or even 9/11, they just are banking on anti-muslim sentiment to hype up their base (and among far too many Americans) so they can parade around like peacocks bragging about their so-called American Values. It makes me want to tear out my hair.

Posted by: zoe kentucky on August 15, 2010 at 12:05 PM | PERMALINK

We won't win this debate because the Enlightenment has never been all that popular in our nation. Indeed, Ugly Americanism easily wins debates by appealing to our basest emotions. Right-wingers know this. Cornyn is not stupid. He's cynical. Any chance he'll pay a price for such cheap grandstanding? No.

Posted by: walt on August 15, 2010 at 12:05 PM | PERMALINK

This Islamic Center has become the dividing line between intelligence and stupidity. And now that the GOP has so closely allied itself with stupidity, you can't expect any member of that party to come out support the center without losing their Republican bona fides.

Posted by: g. powell on August 15, 2010 at 12:07 PM | PERMALINK

Yep...and the check's in the mail. The GOP knows what it's doing and the stupidity of some of the voting population.

Posted by: SYSPROG on August 15, 2010 at 12:13 PM | PERMALINK

It's all about that old time bigotry - the advertising should be on the lines of: Beliefs John Cornyn and Osama bin Ladin share...

Posted by: RepubAnon on August 15, 2010 at 12:16 PM | PERMALINK

Yeah, that'll help: let's handle a controversy by telling the American people how stupid and bigoted they are.

And of course there's the President's position: "Muslims have the same right to practice their religion as everyone else in this country. And that includes the right to build a place of worship and a community center on private property in Lower Manhattan, in accordance with local laws and ordinances.... I will not comment on the wisdom of making a decision to put a mosque there."

Yup, this one is a slam dunk for us.

Posted by: theAmericanist on August 15, 2010 at 12:17 PM | PERMALINK

Once the right understands that there's no plan to build a mosque at Ground Zero, the whole dispute should fade away.

If only there was some easy way to know the location of the proposed Cordoba House and the location of the World Trade Center.

Why won't our IT companies develop some sort of map application? Is it because the likes of Google, Yahoo, Garmin and Microsoft are in cahoots with terrorists?

Oh,.... right.

Posted by: MikeBoyScout on August 15, 2010 at 12:27 PM | PERMALINK

I am almost to the point where i don't want to hear anything that is going on in this country.Everyone is so upset about this community center (not a mosque) being built in NYC near ground - zero. What "thinking" person" worries about something like this. These so-called "leaders" accusing anyone who thinks differently than they do as being anti-American are so full of shit and yet the media lets them feed their BS to the unthinking masses (which probably is a large majority of our population). You really see the vast emptiness of American thinking when comedians (Stewart, Cobert, late George Carlin, etc.) give the clearest views of what's going on in this country.

Posted by: Chris on August 15, 2010 at 12:33 PM | PERMALINK

All Cornyn needs now is a white-faced red-bulbed nose and a big fuck you grin! Bring on the demagogues! -Kevo

Posted by: kevo on August 15, 2010 at 12:34 PM | PERMALINK

This issue is like an everlasting hangover from the Bush years-- the dems were pretty silent for YEARS while the GOP broadly and frequently used phrases like "islamoterrorists" to the point where many Americans are fearful and distrustful of all Muslims.

There are some pretty hard, simple facts that no politician seems to be brave enough to say right now. Unfortunately I suspect they've seen the dismal poll numbers on this question and have decided it isn't worth the effort trying to educate people or change their minds. Pick your battles and all that.

Regardless, I just wish that the dems would all work from the same talking points. For example:

- Islam itself is not responsible for 9/11.
- Muslims were murdered on 9/11 right along with Christians, Jews, non-theists, etc.
- Destructive extremists use all sorts of rationalizations to justify their actions, on 9/11 it just so happened to be Islam. The people in the KKK and the "Christian Identity" movement use Christianity to support their twisted beliefs. Is that Christianity's fault?

An Islamic community center a few blocks away from 9/11 is a symbol of our freedom and the very core of our American values-- freedom of religion and freedom of speech.

Posted by: zoe kentucky on August 15, 2010 at 12:36 PM | PERMALINK

Yesterday we were all over Rep Gomer for his asinine comments... and he apparently used to be a judge (I've no idea what level). Well, Sen Cornyn used to be a Texas SUPREME COURT judge and was supposedly on W's list for the US Supreme Ct openings that eventually went to Roberts and Alito.

Cornyn says this kind of cr*p all the time. These people have no shame.

Zoe, right on in your comments. And MikeBoyScout, yes, I'd like to see a detailed map with all of the businesses that surround Ground Zero, specifically those that shouldn't be "moral" to the wingers: bars, strip clubs, etc. The Daily Show has done some on this, incl the mosque four blocks away, all of the food vendors.

I am so frustrated at the stupidity and ignorance of the majority of Americans, most of whom would have no problem with this were it explained correctly.

Posted by: Hannah on August 15, 2010 at 12:36 PM | PERMALINK

"No wonder Republicans are so upset -- they have no idea what they're talking about."

How does that differ from every other topic?

Posted by: Mark-NC on August 15, 2010 at 12:41 PM | PERMALINK

If ground zero is such hallowed, how come Fox news supports building a gay bar there (not that there is anything wrong with gays, but a bar seems highly inappropriate).

Posted by: J. Frank Parnell on August 15, 2010 at 12:43 PM | PERMALINK

Zoe, good on you again.

We already have millions of Muslims in this country. If Islam was such a violent religion why don't we have terrorist attacks all the time from these people, as Hmmmmm suggested yesterday?

Religious extremists are responsible for giving religion a bad name. Those of us who truly follow the tenets of our faith, especially "Love God, love your neighbor" which I believe is a part of Islam as well as Christianity, need to speak out more forcefully. The imam heading the community center is one such person. That an idiot like Sarah Palin says "moderate Muslims" must speak out, well, h*ll lady, HE IS!

Posted by: Hannah on August 15, 2010 at 12:46 PM | PERMALINK

I suspect this will be an issue like the internment of Japanese Americans in WWII. Scared and angry, at the time a majority of Americans supported striking out against the only Japanese they could reach. A lot of politicians jumped on the band wagon. 60 years later most agree it was an absurd hysterical counterproductive reaction; that the people we locked up were Americans, not Japanese. And the people Newt Gingrich wants to deprive of freedom of religion are Islamic Americans, not terrorists.

Posted by: J. Frank Parnell on August 15, 2010 at 12:53 PM | PERMALINK

This will be the gay marriage 2010 model.

Posted by: SaintZak on August 15, 2010 at 12:58 PM | PERMALINK

I just watched the odious Peter King on TV, saying how this touched a raw nerve with people, I just wrote him a letter telling him that seeing him on TV touched a raw nerve with me, after all he supported IRA terrorists who were responsible for the serious injury and loss of people I know. The English & Northern Irish did not ask for the removal of Catholic churches, because all catholics did not support the IRA.I also asked him why he did not back health care for the first responders on 9/11. I mentioned the fact that we have muslims serving in the armed forces, does he support them. The republicans are doing what they always do spreading hate and stoking the fires of division.

Posted by: js on August 15, 2010 at 1:01 PM | PERMALINK

Kevo, as I said on an earlier thread today, it's long past time for Obama (and Dem leaders) to start using 'demagogue' to describe the jackals who are trying to tear this country apart. Obama has used the term exactly once since taking office - a measure of his utter failure to hold Republicans accountable. In fact, in that one instance Obama stated that "all sides" were "occasionally" demagoguing the issue of immigration. That's the strongest stuff he's ever had, and it's pathetically weak.

Posted by: smintheus on August 15, 2010 at 1:02 PM | PERMALINK

Why does no every Dem and, ideally every media person, start their answer with "No one is building a mosque at ground zero." Should end the discussion.

Posted by: mike on August 15, 2010 at 1:10 PM | PERMALINK

I do take heart in knowing that a year ago the same right-wing jackasses were equally outraged -- OUTRAGED -- over some other issue they have since abandoned.

Posted by: hells littlest angel on August 15, 2010 at 1:16 PM | PERMALINK

Also very to the point: this isn't just about vague, generic "Muslims." - this particular group has a constructive attitude, and that matters (as explained e.g. by Jeffrey Goldberg.)

Posted by: Neil B on August 15, 2010 at 1:27 PM | PERMALINK

the truth is that stoking religious, racial, and ethnic tensions is a tried and proven tactic that always benefits republicans leading into an election, so expect much, much more of this between now and November.

Posted by: DelCapslock on August 15, 2010 at 1:44 PM | PERMALINK

Cornyn: "I do think it's unwise to build a mosque in the site where 3,000 Americans lost their lives as the result of a terrorist attack."

God this is getting tiring. Why do these assholes in the GOP continuously seem to operate from the grotesque "belief" that the 3,000 victims of the 9/11 attacks were all middle-aged, heterosexual, white Christian men? That seems to be their sole definition of "American." Cornyn ought to try actually visiting New York City for a change; I'm sure it would be quite a shock for him.

Posted by: electrolite on August 15, 2010 at 2:31 PM | PERMALINK

Using Jon Cornyn's logic, there should not be any Christian Churches allowed in Oklahoma City near the federal building, either. I think it is unwise to permit Christian churches near a site where a terrorist and his posse killed 168 Americans lives, including 19 children under the age of 6, and injured more than 680 others.

That's not basing a decision on dislike of a specific religion. It's just commenting on the inadequate wisdom of putting churches connected to the terrorist that close to where their victims were killed and wounded. McVeigh DID spend time at a Christian compound just before the bombing, of course.

Right. Nothing to do with freedom of religion. Just absence of wise decisions.

Posted by: Rick B on August 15, 2010 at 2:42 PM | PERMALINK

Isn't it ironic that earlier this week, Sarah Palin explains to a teacher that she had to quit the governorship so she can help defend the Constitution for Americans. But now she is advocating that the Federal Government disregard the Constitution and step in and overturn a City of New York's zoning ordinance. I thought she was against Washington telling us what to do. Oh wait - she WANTS government to do this, as long as her kind of people are in charge.

Posted by: sublime33 on August 15, 2010 at 3:11 PM | PERMALINK

Steve Benen writes: "If someone proposed building a house of worship for a specific faith group "in the site where" 9/11 occurred, I'd oppose it, too."

I would think that freedom to practice religion would mean allowing that as well. I'm surprised that Benen would oppose it.

Posted by: Quiddity on August 15, 2010 at 3:35 PM | PERMALINK

I agree with Rick B, but I feel we should take this line of thinking even further.

NO Christian church or group should be allowed within a mile of any facility that medically treats women. It would be a gross insult to all of the people who have suffered at the hands of the domestic terrorists (the murderous abortion bombers, snipers, & vandals) with whom the Republicans ally themselves.

Do I really believe this? No, of course not. But, we must confront the terrorist enabling Republicans, and this is an opportunity to do so. Any time this subject comes up, say "domestic terrorists, Doctor Tiller murdered in his church," and see how that registers.

Posted by: BuzzMon on August 15, 2010 at 3:57 PM | PERMALINK

I used to work on Wall Street, and you cannot imagine the incongruity of the old Burlington Coat factory being part of a national news story. It was a place no one has ever cared about, just one of a million anonymous, plain buildings.

So much has been said about this non-story that my mind boggles. The thought that some rube from Alaska or Georgia would be able to even have an opinion about the color of a fucking street sign in New York City is absolutely enraging. 9/11 didn't make New York City or Ground Zero yours. It is ours. Every cowardly, fear-mongering racist who is hyping this story is cordially invited to go pound sand up his ass.

Posted by: Rathskeller on August 15, 2010 at 4:10 PM | PERMALINK

What offends me more is a line from the next paragraph of the article:

Voters "sense that they�re being lectured to, not listened to" by Democrats, he said.

I just love the narcissistic attitude of my fellow Americans, who believe that they must be listened to all the time, no matter how stupid and bigoted their ideas are.

Posted by: Kevin S. on August 15, 2010 at 4:14 PM | PERMALINK

@ smintheus: Kevo, as I said on an earlier thread today, it's long past time for Obama (and Dem leaders) to start using 'demagogue' to describe the jackals who are trying to tear this country apart. Obama has used the term exactly once since taking office - a measure of his utter failure to hold Republicans accountable.

smintheus, do you really think that the typical person has any idea what the word "demagogue" means? They probably think it has something to do with Democrats at a synagogue.

Posted by: FlipYrWhig on August 15, 2010 at 4:18 PM | PERMALINK

he's a frickin US citizen, he can drag his sorry ass to a meeting (planning commission, zoning, whatever) and give a passionate speech opposing the center. But he's from TX? Find a NYC local who will give the speech. there are a lot of out-of-work actors he could hire for such a speech. Find a young (and alive) George C Scott to give a Patton-type speech.

Posted by: lk on August 15, 2010 at 4:23 PM | PERMALINK

>I just love the narcissistic attitude of my fellow Americans, who believe that they must be listened to all the time, no matter how stupid and bigoted their ideas are.

You noticed that, too, Kevin. The right to free speech has somehow been morphed into the right to be taken seriously.

Posted by: Paul Avery on August 15, 2010 at 5:02 PM | PERMALINK

A few topics back the claim was made that Muslims built mosques to celebrate victories. That's not something unique to Islam.

Try doing a web search on "churches built to commemorate victories". You'll find quite a list. I suspect if I tried a few more variants I'd get quite a few more. If I change commemorate to celebrate I see commissioning church bells to celebrate victories was also popular.

Projection, it isn't just for movies...

Posted by: Butch on August 15, 2010 at 5:07 PM | PERMALINK

FlipYrWhig: Most people know that demagogues are bad. If you attack somebody as a demagogue people tend to distance themselves from that person's pronouncements...even though they'd already flocked to his standard.

BuzzMon: Maybe a better way to highlight their hypocrisy is to ask whether Catholic churches should be banned within 2 blocks of any school, given the Church's history of shielding pedophiles.

Posted by: smintheus on August 15, 2010 at 5:40 PM | PERMALINK

When your only policy proposals are to return to everything that made the mess, your only hope is to gin up the rubes in a frenzy of patriotic hysteria. It's the way the Republicans have always done business.

Posted by: TCinLA on August 15, 2010 at 5:42 PM | PERMALINK

Not that it matters, but how far away is the proposed community center from ground zero in actual distance? I live in a small town, and when you say 2 blocks you're talking rock throwing distance. Maybe actual distance would help make the argument that it's not AT ground zero..

Posted by: kanopsis on August 15, 2010 at 5:53 PM | PERMALINK

Most Americans will understand that the media and GOP are exaggerating the "mosque" issue once they get educated to the facts.

The facts are that there is already a mosque in the Ground Zero area just 3 blocks from the proposed new one, and there are other places of worship in the area as well. There is also places of worship and a mosque at the Pentagon.

Posted by: Andrea on August 15, 2010 at 7:07 PM | PERMALINK

A year after this building is completed, a lot of people are going to look back at this debate and be ashamed of themselves.

This is truly a pathetic moment in American history.

Posted by: dddd on August 15, 2010 at 7:14 PM | PERMALINK

After listening to Cornyn it is obvious; the terrorists have won.

Posted by: J. Frank Parnell on August 15, 2010 at 7:51 PM | PERMALINK

Is there really NOTHING ELSE for politicians to talk about in America right now? Forget about Islam, 9/11, etc. A group of private citizens want to rent a commercial space in Lower Manhattan. I should care about their lease, exactly why?

My wife just spent all of July negotiating a commercial lease in San Francisco. Why won't the president and Congress talk about her lease? I demand that the president and Congress address every. single. commercial lease in America. Because it matters.

It certainly matters way more than 10% unemployment.

Posted by: Steve Simitzis on August 15, 2010 at 8:24 PM | PERMALINK

"National Republican Senatorial Committee Chairman John Cornyn (R-Texas) argued today on Fox News that his party, without a policy agenda or substantive ideas about the future, intends to pit Americans against each other over this issue during the campaign season." - Mr. Benen

You didn't really need to go any farther than that. Arguing rationally against Cornyn's diversions and fantasies is satisfying to those who enjoy living in the world of fact and truth, but he's counting on the non critical thinkers out there to push his whacked out candidates over the top.

As ignorantly fruitcakey as his 'bagger candidates are, they are making a far better showing than a rational world would allow. If they can be competitive with their insistent, and chickenshit, belligerence, why shouldn't Cornyn stand up and let them know that he's a team player?

Don't forget, among many in Texas, being considered a successful bullshitter, (spell check likes "bullshitter", that's interesting), is a point of pride. If Cornyn see's his b.s. skewing the results that he wants even slightly in his favor rather than against, he will catapult meaningless and moronic crap 'til the cows come home. Which should be sometime in early 11/2010. And much longer than that if it works.

Posted by: burro on August 15, 2010 at 8:25 PM | PERMALINK

Note also, most of the people complaining about this Islamic center (and by reform types to boot) were OK with Bush midwifing in a religious, Shiite (like Iran!) type government in Iraq! (We spent billions of taxpayer dollars to do it, do you get that?) And now things may fall apart because that government will not treat Sunnis well. Pathetic.

"Simple answers are for simple minds."

Posted by: Neil B on August 15, 2010 at 8:25 PM | PERMALINK

kanopsis, in this case you'd have to throw your rock over the top of a tall (20-story, I think) building, not just go for distance. The site of the proposed project isn't even visible from Ground Zero.

(If everyone was forced to type "45 Park Place NY NY" into Google Maps, click on the pin and hit Street View, things would get less silly pretty fast.)

Posted by: biggerbox on August 15, 2010 at 8:40 PM | PERMALINK

The point is that this so called "controversy" has gone too far. There are already churches and mosques at Ground Zero. This issue is being blown out of proportion. You all know how the media likes to hype up stories for their own benefit and how the republicans like to distort the truth.

Remember the Jeremiah Wright incident? Some people were saying Obama was politically doomed then.

As adults, it's up to us to gather the facts and then make our own educated conclusion. I'm sure most voters will do that once again, like we did in 2008.

There has been a mosque at the Ground Zero area since 1970, and there is one at the Pentagon -- this made up "controversy" needs to end. To me, the only story is how hate and ignorance make Americans look dumber and dumber.

Posted by: Andrea on August 15, 2010 at 9:21 PM | PERMALINK

And we should forbid the building of churches near the Morrow building in Oklahama City where rightwing Christianist Timothy McVeigh blew up the Federal Building of course. It makes senses. It's logical. It's a well reasoned position reached after careful consideration of all the positives and negatives. The Founding Fathers would certainly have agreed.

Posted by: mickster99 on August 15, 2010 at 11:54 PM | PERMALINK

@ kanopsis:

I live in a small town, and when you say 2 blocks you're talking rock throwing distance.

I have every confidence that you're right, that the whole stupid non-troversy hinges on the idea that "two blocks" is "at" or "practically at" the site where the World Trade Center used to be. In fact, people probably imagine that where the World Trade Center used to be is one empty block, and then the "mosque" building is right there.

What I'd like to know is how many other businesses and organizations are within the same radius. I'm sure it's possible to use census data to determine that, but I don't know how myself.

Posted by: FlipYrWhig on August 16, 2010 at 12:01 AM | PERMALINK

@ smintheus: I'd like for you to be right, because it's a word I like myself, but I'm pretty sure you're overestimating the proportion of the population that recognizes the word "demagogue."

Posted by: FlipYrWhig on August 16, 2010 at 12:04 AM | PERMALINK

Lets face it. Rightwingers never ever admit to being wrong, ever.

Except if they get caught screwing someone other than their wives (including gay escorts) and then it's ok because their wives stood by them while they confessed on tv. But then back to normal.

They never ever admit to being wrong, ever.

Got it?

Posted by: mickster99 on August 16, 2010 at 12:04 AM | PERMALINK

FlipYrWhig - the area in question is very heavily business oriented (and the rest are government buildings), so population is not the key factor. There are residences within hailing distance, but by and large the area specifically near that store is abandoned on weekends and at night, unlike the rest of Manhattan.

There are many thousands of businesses in the radius you give around the World Trade Center. You can certainly cross-check my assertion with Google Maps or Google Earth. You'll be able to find hundreds of street-level businesses just by looking at the street view. And of course, every building there is 10-40 stories.

Posted by: Rathskeller on August 16, 2010 at 12:52 AM | PERMALINK

John 'Judicial Free Fire Zone' Cornyn was previously sighted sympathizing with criminals threatening and perpetrating violence on federal judges. So I'm not sure what part of the terrorist sympathizers praying to their Satanic monkey god and conducting human sacrifice is a problem for him.

Perhaps if they went old school and did their Koranic masses in Latin?

Posted by: LosGatosCA on August 16, 2010 at 2:55 AM | PERMALINK

This is not about freedom of religion

He's right. It's about property owner rights and zoning law, which apparently they do not believe in. Where were all the republicans when voting to aid the NY City union represented emergency responders just a few weeks ago and Rep Weiner laid into them on the house floor? The victim card is an epic fail, otherwise they would have supported those victims.

Posted by: flyonthewall on August 16, 2010 at 5:10 AM | PERMALINK

@ Rathskeller:

There are many thousands of businesses in the radius you give around the World Trade Center.

Thanks for the sketch. IMHO if we had a hard number to put out there for context, that would be even better. Because, seriously, I think that people reacting to the project picture it as pretty much right on the edge of the WTC block, with, like, maybe 20 other buildings around it.

Posted by: FlipYrWhig on August 16, 2010 at 11:44 AM | PERMALINK

I'm with Quiddity on this. Whenever ground zero itself actually is developed there will be millions of square feel of office space in the buildings. In my town there are churches in converted movie theaters and old storefronts. What's wrong with a place of worship, regardless of the religion or sect, in the rebuilt WTC site?

Posted by: mrgumby2u on August 16, 2010 at 12:36 PM | PERMALINK

"(spell check likes "bullshitter", that's interesting)"
Posted by: burro on August 15, 2010 at 8:25 PM

Why shouldn't it?
"Bullshitter" is a perfectly cromulent word -- it's essentially a diminutive of "Republican," as in:
"KKKarl Rove began his career as your basic College-Republican bullshitter, but, showing exceptional promise even then as a congenital liar, rapidly rose through the ranks to become a full-fledged Republican, fabulist, and sociopath."

Posted by: smartalek on August 16, 2010 at 12:51 PM | PERMALINK

kanopsis, Rathskeller, and FlipYrWhig have finally addressed an issue that to me has been conspicuously absent. To someone who's never been to NYC -- and there are really no similarly dense cities in the US -- "two blocks" sounds really close.

Of course the Palin/King/etc. class of demagogues knows better than this, but it's not like this issue is about anything other than ginning up false outrage to win elections (or in Palin's case, secure honoraria).

Posted by: Equal Opportunity Cynic on August 16, 2010 at 12:54 PM | PERMALINK




 

 

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