The uproar, Paul concludes, "is all about hate and Islamaphobia."

Well, yeah. And on that score, it's never a bad idea to review this. One wonders what Ron Paul's interest, if any, would be if the Cordoba House planners were trying to rent rather than to exercise property rights.

Wouldn't it be interesting to overhear father and son when they talk politics?

Thanks, yet another paul, for the link to the New Republic article.

I wonder how many of the "Greenland was once Warm crowd" have the faintest idea of what they are talking about. Or the Teagbagging "Ron Paul is the New Messiah" folks. . .

Ruing Paul

He's either confused about his own principles, or he's cast them aside in the hopes of winning an election.

Sounds like he has some identity issues...

Wouldn't it be interesting to overhear father and son when they talk politics?

Yeah, I'll bet it's riveting. And by that, I mean a lot like having your face six inches from someone riveting.

Isn't it all about "The Market?" If the builders of the Park51 Community Center have paid the market rate and acquired all the legal permits, what is the basis of objecting to their following through on their property rights? Would a Christian Church being built in the Jewish Ghetto in NYC be resisted? Especially if the seller of the property were a Jew? I don't know if this has actually happened, so my question is not rhetorical.

There is no Jewish ghetto in NYC. There are of course Jewish people living everywhere, and some predominately super conservative Hasidic (of various sects) neighborhoods in Queens and Brooklyn, boroughs of NYC since 1898. No definite borders, this not being Nazi Germany.

Rhetorically, is there an Aryan Nation Community Center planned for Harlem?

-A much better analogy than Pat Buchanan's Shinto shrine on Ford Island. . .

This brave new world of political greenhorns includng Romney , Beck , and Paul are a great combination for Frankenstein's monster . Elections are so close to Halloween its scary .
Romney is still insulting Baystater's ?
Any way you stitch it , these guys are still missing vital things . Aside from any practical means or methods to act in decent company , they just do not make enough sense to place an order in a restaurant they are not well known in . You could almost feel sorry for the bottom of the barrel with these swells as comparison .

It is an easy worldview to understand: Be smart enough to be born rich, white, and male!

I no longer comment on political blogs in general, for reasons I explained to Steve in an e-mail, but I will comment on Brooklyn, because I live there. In fact, I live in a predominantly Jewish -- though only partially Hasidic -- neighborhood. It has several storefront Protestant churches as well, and several Pakistani grocery stores. (I would expect several more Protestant and Catholic churches in the more Hasidic end because it abuts a main Hispanic district.) But maybe the key to Brooklyn is several blocks down Coney island Avenue from me, where an Islamic center proudly sits, nestled between a Kosher Supermarket and a Jewish daycare center, and which seems to get along nicely there.

Rand Paul's principles are for sale to the highest bidder. His only concern is to get elected and then to step into the cash line and toe the republican line.

He offers nothing and stands for nothing but thought that his "name" could get him into a position of power where he will be paid well in perks etc. to do what he is told...protect the oligarchy.

Run Rand run...away from reporters and toward the cash cow.

Islam didn't attack us on 9/11. You can't even see ground zero from the community center nor can you see the community center 'from' ground zero, and it's a fuc*ing "community center" not a Mosque comparable to a YMCA. Here are the elected reps and candidates using religion for political gain by fear mongering.

It is a huge distraction to rile up the far right fringe from focusing on our real problems...the economy and job losses while the repubs go about outsourcing America and blocking all efforts at recovery.

The same people who are loudly opposing the community center Parks51 voted against funding for medical relief and assistance to the victims of ground zero and their families. Republican hypocrisy at it's finest.

There is no contradiction
between Randy and his dad. They may call themselves "libertarians", but they're both Republicans, through and through, and their primary creed is winning.

Here's how it works: Randy Boy appeals to the teabagger, Moslem-hating part of the Republican electorate. His dad appeals to more moderate, Republican-leaning voters and perhaps a few deluded Democrats. This second group of voters think that Ronald will somehow control, or otherwise influence, his wayward son, once they're both in Washington together. Incredibly, some of these voters may not realize that the two are, in fact, separate people.

That's how it worked with Bush Junior.

Libertarians tend to be in favor of drug legalization. let's hear what Rand said on the subject.

Meanwhile,

BOYCOTT FOX

Anything built near Bush's National Security Disaster site is progress. The most healing thing we can do is to finally look critically at Bush's failure there and move on--ignoring he and his ilk forever.

Ayn Rand thinks a small group of Americans, and only them, who are totally unconnected with the 9/11 attack should give millions to a 9/11 memorial or the victims of 9/11.
And they should give up their plans for a faith based activities center. And do what then? Go bankrupt? Become agnostics because they can't have a place to socialize together. Hold services and prayers in the middle of the street?

That's not even logical, especially as there is already a mosque and at least two churches in the vicinity and he does not ask them for the same sacrifice, much less of the billion dollar businesses that built and had offices in the twin towers, making it such a juicy target.

At least his dad is logical. I don't think even Bachmann would come up with that screwy an idea.

Ron was on Anderson Cooper Monday night splitting hairs over whether he and his son are diametrically opposed on the building of the mosque. Ron says he doesn't care if it's built but the broad-brush islamophobia is wrong. True, Ron, but that obviously implies that it's okay to build it, which is diametrically opposed to your son's position.

Here’s a thought. Perhaps Rand could lead by example, by dropping out of the Senate race and committing the money he would have spent on his campaign to a 9/11 memorial and/or donating it to the victim’s families.

Every day I wonder what has become of the country we live in, I think this will be a period that the republicans will look upon with shame (if there ever are any with a conscience) I know that people overseas are looking at us with disgust.

I kind of enjoyed (Ron) Paul's blasting the opponents of this project as phobic via a conspiracy theory explanation -- it's the neocons!

I wonder who those could be.

The apple and the tree are pretty much in the same spot.

"He's either confused about his own principles, or he's cast them aside in the hopes of winning an election."

I think that sums it up. What's sad is he earlier said he wouldn't comment on the dispute, because after all it is a New York matter and no business of Kentuckian or as he used the line "If you don't live here it's none of your business." Great. So then why make the comment if it's none of your business?

Rand has made it a point to try be his own man and not use his father to try and win. That's fine. No one is asking Rand to be Ron. But is it too much to ask to run on the same principals you touted when you campaigned for your father? And after all, the freedom movement isn't about one man, it's supposed to be about a cause, one Rand apparently doesn't want to associate himself with.

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