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August 27, 2010

ANGLE REFUSES TO WALK BACK 'DOMESTIC ENEMIES' LINE.... On Sharron Angle's list of greatest hits, it has to rank right up there. During an interview in which a right-wing radio host said there are "domestic enemies" serving in Congress, Angle replied that she agreed with the sentiment. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) argued this week, "If she is going to use such rhetoric, she has an obligation to name names and explain to the American people exactly who she thinks is a domestic enemy."

But while the controversy arose a couple of days ago, the interview happened last year. Angle even had a readily available defense -- she could simply try to argue that the provocative remarks came from the host, not her.

Yesterday, the extremist Senate candidate had a chance to walk the whole mess back. As Greg Sargent reported, she declined.

HARRIS: They have gone back to almost a year ago, dug through a conversation you had with my buddy Bill Manders up there in Reno, the big talker up there, where he said that we have domestic enemies and he thinks some of them are in the walls of the Senate and Congress, and you agreed with him. Did you agree with him?

ANGLE: Well, we were talking about what's going on in Congress, of course, and the policies that have come out of Congress, and those policies as we've all seen over the last 18 months have definitely hurt our country.

HARRIS: Yeah, well I agree with you by the way, but I wanted to make sure you got you a chance to clarify that, because I'll tell you the truth, Sharron. I do think we actually do have folks in Congress who truly want to do us harm and see us change from the nation we are now.

ANGLE: There is no doubt that the policies that have been coming out in the last 18 months have injured us, and injured us most specifically here in Nevada.

It would have been so easy for Angle to make this go away. She could have denounced the policies she disagrees with, while adding that she doesn't believe her opponents literally want to harm America.

But that's just not what Angle believes. In her twisted worldview, those who disagree with her are very likely treasonous.

So, I suppose Reid's challenge still stands. If Angle believes there are anti-American traitors shaping federal policy in Washington -- officials deliberately "injuring" the country -- then she would seem to have a responsibility to identify them for public scrutiny.

Steve Benen 11:25 AM Permalink | Trackbacks | Comments (24)

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Frog marching Greenwald

We're on the cusp of this going mainstream...
All the country needs is a million man Beck March...
More economic distress...
And the distance from Muslim to Liberal becomes one chalkboard arrow...
And then watch out:

Cerebral Glenn Greenwald will find his mixed-up liberal ass...
In Gitmo without a computer to post his next anti-Obama screed.

Posted by: koreyel on August 27, 2010 at 11:31 AM | PERMALINK

When 'Our Great Leader' George W. Bush was the president, all who disagreed with his war policies and domestic policies were 'enemies of the state'!

Just because those same persons are now in the majority party does not make them any less 'enemies of the state'!

Posted by: RepublicanPointOfView on August 27, 2010 at 11:35 AM | PERMALINK

It's just the usual GOP projection - their representatives in Congress ARE out to harm the country, in order to return themselves to power, so naturally they have to accuse the Dems of doing it instead.

Posted by: DavidNOE on August 27, 2010 at 11:46 AM | PERMALINK

I cannot stand these Dick Armey-created-tea-party loons. Angle is a disgrace.

Posted by: June on August 27, 2010 at 11:51 AM | PERMALINK

That's one of the reasons why it's really hard to debate your average conservative. They don't believe that someone can take an anti-conservative position that's also patriotic. To them it's one in the same, so instead of debating policies or politics and having to actually use brainpower, they take the easy way out and simply inpugn on ones "devious" motivations.

Posted by: Archon on August 27, 2010 at 11:58 AM | PERMALINK

Hold on--"they" went back A WHOLE YEAR to dig up comments Angle made? You can't do that to a Republican!!! You can only do that to slimy Democrats! What's going on in this country?

Posted by: Lifelong Dem on August 27, 2010 at 11:59 AM | PERMALINK

Angle is just expressing an opinion. I mean it's what Joey said: it's a moo point, a cow's opinion.

Posted by: Tom M on August 27, 2010 at 12:00 PM | PERMALINK

Steve, do you doubt there are people rooting against the US?
I remember Rush L pretty explicitly saying he hopes the US goes down the toilet because that would hurt Obama. And the Republicans are doing there best to make things as bad as possible to hurt Obama.

Posted by: Listen up on August 27, 2010 at 12:02 PM | PERMALINK

koreyel: What is with your Greenwald obsession?

The Republicans are taking the express train to crazytown and this is Glenn Greenwald's fault? Like maybe if he shut his column down, the tea partiers would disband, Glenn Beck would quit TV and radio, and Angle would bow out of her Senate race? Is that what you are suggesting?

Here's a concept, maybe if the President stopped treating Fox as a legitimate news outlet, stopped calling Republicans his "friends across the aisle" and generally stopped giving legitimacy to America's brownshirts, that maybe the crazies would be driven back to the shadows and you wouldn't have to scapegoat Greenwald anymore.

Posted by: square1 on August 27, 2010 at 12:02 PM | PERMALINK

it's like the entire GOP went out and memorized Joseph Goebbels' greatest hits. and no, i am not saying they're Nazis, just fear-mongering parasites.

“Intellectual activity is a danger to the building of character”

and we all know the GOP's talent for Goebbels' "big lie"....

Posted by: ahoypolloi on August 27, 2010 at 12:09 PM | PERMALINK

Most Tea party people have no clue who Greenwald is. They just know that he is a traitor.

Posted by: Carol on August 27, 2010 at 12:09 PM | PERMALINK

Look, nothing ever came of Hitler's mic-on comments in the late 1920s and early 1930s regarding what might become of the Jews were he to eke out a win in an election.

Once his political handlers managed to tone down his rather erratic hand gestures and turn the volume down on the Wagner, he went on to become a pragmatic, even non-controversial leader who championed the small businesses that developed new oven technologies and those cool motorcycle sidecars, innovations still useful to this day.

Leadership changes people. Not to worry, Angle will be O.K., especialy once she gets to Washington D.C. where moderates like Louis Gohmert can soften her rough edges.

Posted by: John Thullen on August 27, 2010 at 12:14 PM | PERMALINK

If Angle refuses to ID the felons in congress she ought to be arrested for Obstruction of Justice.

Posted by: cwolf on August 27, 2010 at 12:31 PM | PERMALINK

I'm sure she's got Keith Elllison in mind, and probably Al Franken...

Posted by: jjm on August 27, 2010 at 12:33 PM | PERMALINK

At the risk of poking the bees nest, aren't those of us on the left guilty of saying very similar stuff about Republicans of late? I think I've seen it said, here and elsewhere, that Republicans are (or seem to be) intentionally tanking the economy for political gain in an election year. That (arguably accurate) point isn't that far off from Angle's "There is no doubt that the policies that have been coming out in the last 18 months have injured us, and injured us most specifically here in Nevada."

Now, she's wrong, of course. And she seems to be arguing that the proponents of these harmful policies are acting out of a desire to harm America because they want to destroy America. But it really is the same point that we routinely make about Republicans. We just call them power hungry instead of domestic enemies.

Am I wrong?

Posted by: BrendanInBoston on August 27, 2010 at 12:34 PM | PERMALINK


No, you're absolutely correct.

I hereby pledge to clean up my rhetoric and to eschew hypocrisy of all kinds.

I fully expect my good friends on the Republican side of the aisle to follow suit.

Why, here's the shade of Lee Atwater himself, standing before me, spitting salt from his mouth, apologizing and offering the hand of peace.

And here's a call coming in from Rush Limbaugh on line two -- I'm sure he's holding a dove in one hand and extending the other in a spirit of loving bipartisanship.

Posted by: John Thullen on August 27, 2010 at 12:43 PM | PERMALINK

Note the "in the walls" locution applied to the Democratic Congress, almost subtle and quick enough to defy detection. What kinds of animals notoriously live *in* the walls? Rats, roaches and other vermin. Dehumanizing opponents comes straight out of the fascist propaganda playbook, and these folks have it down pat.

Make no mistake: they're very, very skilled at this -- especially when sound and image are stirred into the mix. And remember that Nixon was a bigger political joke in `66 than Palin is now, and look where he wound up in `68.

Posted by: kentropic on August 27, 2010 at 12:45 PM | PERMALINK

Perhaps she is referring to Rupert Murdoch...

While not a senator, he certainly wields as much influence as one.

BOYCOTT The Wall Street Journal

Posted by: KurtRex1453 on August 27, 2010 at 1:00 PM | PERMALINK

Would Angle have the US Army invade Congress after they get back from Iraq?

"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic..."

Posted by: Daryl P Cobranchi on August 27, 2010 at 1:00 PM | PERMALINK

John Thullen - Wow, hilarious. You win.

Posted by: BrendanInBoston on August 27, 2010 at 1:12 PM | PERMALINK

"I'm sure she's got Keith Elllison in mind, and probably Al Franken..." jjm on August 27, 2010 at 12:33 PM

I, for one, would be proud to have my congressman and senator on Angle's enemies list.

Posted by: tsquared on August 27, 2010 at 1:27 PM | PERMALINK

At the risk of poking the bees nest, aren't those of us on the left guilty of saying very similar stuff about Republicans of late?

To the extent this is true, Dems have generally been willing to name names. The actions of, for example, McConnell, Boehner and Cantor and the words of Limbaugh and Hannity (ascribing intentionality to Beck seems like a stretch) make more sense when evaluated as at least short term sabotage of the country than against any other metric.

Posted by: drkrick on August 27, 2010 at 2:45 PM | PERMALINK

Don't ask her to name names! I'm surprised she hasn't been coached to do just that. If she named her "Enemies of America in Congress" list those people would have their faces plastered all over the tv screeen on every cable news show non stop with the breathlessly asked: "Why is __________ an enemy of the country?" "What has ___________ done to the country?" "Do you really know_________"

This wouldn't backfire on her. It would turn into a grotesque slanderous circus played out every day, day in and day out, on what passes for our news media.

Posted by: SaintZak on August 27, 2010 at 2:54 PM | PERMALINK

The problem with Angle is that she is fundamentally obtuse, while her supporter think she's a cutie.

What's worse is that 95% of her supporters won't understand that.

Posted by: Amadan on August 27, 2010 at 7:33 PM | PERMALINK



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