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October 26, 2010

CONDEMNING VIOLENCE SHOULDN'T BE DIFFICULT.... We talked earlier about the pre-debate assault in Kentucky last night, in which Rand Paul (R) supporters grabbed a MoveOn activist, forced her to the ground, and at one point, literally stomped on her head as she lay helpless on the curb.

This morning, Paul apparently felt compelled to address the incident, so he did what Republicans always do: he scurried to Fox News. Here's what the right-wing ophthalmologist had to say about the incident:

"We want everybody to be civil; we want the campaign to be about issues. I will tell you that when we arrived, there was enormous passion on both sides and it really was something where you walked into a daze of lights flashing, people yelling and screaming, bumping up. There was a bit of a crowd control problem.

"I don't want anybody, though, to be involved in things that aren't civil. I think it should always be about the issues. It is an unusual situation to have so many people, so passionate on both sides, jockeying back and forth and it wasn't something that I liked or anybody liked about that situation. So I hope in the future it's going to be better."

I don't mean to sound picky, but a defenseless woman was stomped on the head by Rand Paul supporters, and wound up in the hospital. I was hoping Paul would have the decency to use words like "condemn" and "denounce." Maybe he could give her a call to see how she's doing.

Instead, he sought comfort on a Republican news network -- where Paul knew he wouldn't be pressed for a stronger statement or face follow-up questions -- and talked about "both sides" being worked up, and his dissatisfaction with "crowd control."

Here's a hypothetical: if large, male union members had grabbed a young woman who worked with Tea Partiers, dragged her to the ground, and literally stepped on her head, would Rand Paul be on Fox News saying "it wasn't something that I liked," or might his response be a little stronger?

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Man up, Rand.

Posted by: Basilisc on October 26, 2010 at 11:30 AM | PERMALINK

If she were a conservative and the brutes were union workers, right wingers would be flooding every news organization pointing to the display of labors thuggery.

Posted by: mikefromArlington on October 26, 2010 at 11:35 AM | PERMALINK

Words "condemn" and "renounce" are only required for black candidates talking about Reverend Wright.

Not sure what America you *think* you live in.

Posted by: sherifffruitfly on October 26, 2010 at 11:36 AM | PERMALINK

How long before the tea baggers claim that this was all set up by the MoveOn thugs to discredit Paul?

Posted by: Doctor Whom on October 26, 2010 at 11:37 AM | PERMALINK

Mike almost got it right, except it would be "Union thugs beat defenseless patriot."

Posted by: Tigershark on October 26, 2010 at 11:38 AM | PERMALINK

Rand Paul is part of the abusive drunk party.

Posted by: Silver Owl on October 26, 2010 at 11:45 AM | PERMALINK

It's ok to get your head stepped on if you are a democrat. (IOTGYHSOIYD)

Posted by: wilbur321 on October 26, 2010 at 11:50 AM | PERMALINK

Doctor Whom, if you read comments in the Louisville Courier-Journal about the incident, you will find such comments as you mentioned. In addition, several Rand Paul supporters are trying to claim this was, at best, a tit for tat, as they claim a Conway supporter stomped on the wounded foot of a vet who was there for Rand Paul.

So, yes, they were quick to claim this was a setup to make RP look bad.

Posted by: berttheclock on October 26, 2010 at 11:53 AM | PERMALINK

Now can we repeal Godwin's Law?

Posted by: hells littlest angel on October 26, 2010 at 11:53 AM | PERMALINK

Rand is an insane sociopath just likes his disciples. Libertarian jesus wants everyone to be civil on Faux Snooze, whoopdee-fucking doo!

This should be the nail in his campaign coffin. I thought Ginni Thomas was going to be the highlight of October, there are still 5+ days left!

Posted by: Trollop on October 26, 2010 at 11:53 AM | PERMALINK

Wait until after the elections, when the TeaBaggers realize that for all their yelling they just don't have the actual numbers. They are already calling for violence, explicitly. When they don't win as much as they feel they are entitled to win, they will go insane and explode in violence. Hyperbole? I guess we'll know in a few days...

Posted by: Kordo on October 26, 2010 at 11:57 AM | PERMALINK

In fact, the thugs will read Paul's weak response as approval. I'm specifically not saying that Paul approves-- but he should not be soft-pedaling this incident, and he should be going beyond Fox News to say so. Road to Hell, and all that.

Posted by: MattF on October 26, 2010 at 11:59 AM | PERMALINK

What was the name of that teabagger who claimed to have been beat up by "union thugs" who made a short career of his victimization?

Once again, IOKIYAR, or, perhaps more specifically, IOKIYAT.

Posted by: karen marie on October 26, 2010 at 11:59 AM | PERMALINK

The idea that there is a comparison to a movement based on a shameless disregard of the values they espouse when convenient , and the values that are a comfort to the billionaires clubs the Rand and Company revolutionaries are composed of , is a defect that dissolves the instant you discover that there is no there there .
Rand and his nihilistic brethren of the right wing possessing a contempt for the dignity of those they find themselves at war with is typical in that the first victims are the defenseless , and the Truth .
When you have a neighbor over for dinner to discuss with dinner table talk , you are a fool to reveal that , to you , the talk is war . They should be able to discover the state of affairs during the first attack . If you like the idea of forcing Americans to dismiss other Americans as cannon fodder , then you should seriously look into the Republican Party .
If you are offended by the insult to decent Americans by ambitious , densely unaware personalities that distort America historically or its law and political heritage empirically in part by declaring Americans as enemies and combatants of Americans , then you may wondering , like me , what decisive action the sober minded senior states people are fiddling with while American values of industry and tolerance are burning .

Posted by: FRP on October 26, 2010 at 12:00 PM | PERMALINK

Where I come from that behavior is called Aggravated Battery in that the girl was hit with a shoe (weapon) Intent to kill could be charged because of the obvious reckless disregard for her life that is displayed in the video by these hoodlums.

The video clearly shows several identifiable participants knocking her to the ground where she was stomped by a man with his shoe,,, thus slamming her head against the curb where she lay motionless for the rest of the clip.

Don't even bother to ask about the assorted civil rights crimes the Feds could use to indict these punks.

These people are supreme cowards and I look forward to the whole process of indictment - through - imprisonment in a KY or federal penitentiary.

Posted by: cwolf on October 26, 2010 at 12:02 PM | PERMALINK

I hope this video zings around the lefties world asap. There are other elements to the story here -

1. note that this happens right after paul, and presumably his security guys walk by. [And note that in contrast, the democratic candidate for governor of WI - Tom Barrett last year interceeded on behalf of a woman and child and was beat with a pipe as a result].

2. Not only does a guy stand on her head, ANOTHER guy holds her to the ground.

IF you want to see what some elements of the tea party looks like, this is it. Every vote, for ANY republican, in ANY STATE, FOR ANY OFFICE, is an implicit vote for thuggery. It does not matter how nicey nicey the individual candidate is ...

So people can decide. Vote for thugs. Or vote for a semblence fo reason. IF you are in any way a "suspicious looking person" - ie, not white, not male, with short hair, etc., plan on being harrassed more and more. It is just that simple.

Disgusting.

Posted by: bigtuna on October 26, 2010 at 12:06 PM | PERMALINK

But of course Randi will offer to help pay her medical bills, won't he?

Weather report: Northern blast of air from Baffin Bay just froze Hell.

Also, a flying pig was sighted over Alaska.

Posted by: Texas Aggie on October 26, 2010 at 12:06 PM | PERMALINK

Oh, Kordo, you haven't been paying attention! They are already seeding teabaggers' peabrains with the idea that if Democrats win it's because the election was stolen through fraud!

Posted by: karen marie on October 26, 2010 at 12:10 PM | PERMALINK

She wasn't defenseless. She could have chosen not to speak. They would never have attacked her then. Right?

Posted by: Pudentilla on October 26, 2010 at 12:15 PM | PERMALINK

@karen_marie: Good one! I prefer IOKIYATB (It's Okay If You're A TeaBagger).

Posted by: ManOutOfTime on October 26, 2010 at 12:30 PM | PERMALINK

If the Dems do better than expected, or win just a couple of the really contentious races, I suspect we will see some very serious violence perpetrated by tea baggers. Shades of McVeigh come to mind.

Posted by: Greg on October 26, 2010 at 12:43 PM | PERMALINK

"I don't mean to sound picky, but a defenseless woman was stomped on the head by Rand Paul supporters, and wound up in the hospital. I was hoping Paul would have the decency to use words like "condemn" and "denounce." Maybe he could give her a call to see how she's doing."

Are you serious? This is the guy who wonders why Medicare exists one moment and then the next he demands that his physician's fees from Medicare not be reduced. These people are gaping, leaping, screaming hypocrites. He's crazy.

Posted by: Bob on October 26, 2010 at 12:48 PM | PERMALINK

"if large, male union members had grabbed a young woman who worked with Tea Partiers"

Now, why would a young woman be a teabagger? Outside of Chrissie O'Donnell, that is...

Posted by: zandru on October 26, 2010 at 1:03 PM | PERMALINK

cwolf...

You have NOT been paying attention! The Obomination has told his Attorney General that "we have to look forward, not backward".

Besides that, there are more important things for the DOJ and congressional committees to focus on - like Nude Black Panthers not intimidating voters.

Posted by: SadOldVet on October 26, 2010 at 1:11 PM | PERMALINK

His comments sound more reasonable if translated into German.

Posted by: robert on October 26, 2010 at 1:57 PM | PERMALINK

Also, a flying pig was sighted over Alaska

I didn't know that Sarah could fly ...

Posted by: G.Kerby on October 26, 2010 at 1:58 PM | PERMALINK

Besides that, there are more important things for the DOJ and congressional committees to focus on - like Nude Black Panthers not intimidating voters.
Posted by: SadOldVet on October 26, 2010 at 1:11 PM

That's right! Also: all those awful people in California who labor under the delusion they actually live in a "democracy" and may vote to legalize pot. But don't worry! Eric Holder's on the case. The banksters may have destroyed the economy and created a nationwide disaster for millions of people, but this DOJ is gonna stamp out the evil weed and win the War on Some Drugs!

Excuse me while I take another bong hit to calm my nerves at the ridiculousness of it all.

Posted by: electrolite on October 26, 2010 at 2:04 PM | PERMALINK

Why would a man who ties up and kidnaps and humiliates women he considers friends have a problem with his supporters assaulting women who are not his friends. He is disgusting but he is consistent in his sociopathy.

Posted by: thebewilderness on October 26, 2010 at 2:46 PM | PERMALINK

The woman has a rap sheet to go with her bad hair. While no one should have their skull stomped (well, maybe some people), you guys should really hold your moral indignation until the whole picture emerges...

Posted by: Charles Nelson on October 26, 2010 at 3:41 PM | PERMALINK

"I don't want anybody, though, to be involved in things that aren't civil." Civil?

How about "aren't CRIMINAL"!

Posted by: Hannah on October 26, 2010 at 3:44 PM | PERMALINK

The woman has a rap sheet to go with her bad hair.

That makes it OK to hold her down and stomp on her head? Ah, moral relativism.....!

Posted by: g on October 26, 2010 at 4:31 PM | PERMALINK

"Here's a hypothetical: if large, male union members had grabbed a young woman who worked with Tea Partiers, dragged her to the ground, and literally stepped on her head, would Rand Paul be on Fox News saying "it wasn't something that I liked," or might his response be a little stronger?"

The problem with this scenario is that many Republicans already believe unions members routinely engage in politically-motivated violence. They simply repeat assertions at each other, without even waiting for an incident. Kind of like (d) voting fraud -- it's an article of faith on the Right that such fraud is happening; actual incidents have become superfluous.

Posted by: CRA on October 27, 2010 at 3:27 AM | PERMALINK




 

 

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