February 2, 2011
QUOTE OF THE DAY.... In June 2009, then-Rep. Mark Kirk (R) of Illinois was one of just eight House Republicans to break party ranks and support the American Clean Energy and Security Act (ACES), which included a cap-and-trade system. Exactly one month later, Kirk, fearing a primary loss as he ran for the Senate, reversed course and announced his opposition to the bill he'd just supported.
Kirk, whose reputation for borderline-pathological dishonesty is well deserved, has struggled ever since to explain why he was for combating the climate crisis before he was against it. Apparently, the freshman senator has came up with a new excuse. As Bradford Plumer summarized, "It was Gore's fault!"
Another Republican blasted from both sides of the spectrum for his record on emissions, Sen. Mark Kirk of Illinois, said he is "not terribly concerned" about taking heat from green groups for his criticism of EPA action on carbon emissions.
"The consensus behind the climate change bill collapsed and then further deteriorated with the personal and political collapse of Vice President [Al] Gore," Kirk said in a brief interview last week.
Hmm. When first asked to explain why he voted for a climate bill -- which was the right call, by the way -- Kirk said it would help "the narrow interests" of his district, but not Illinois overall. Later, he adopted a new line, saying he voted for a massive energy bill after an extensive debate "out of ignorance" and "a lack of understanding" about how the U.S. economy operates. (This was intended to be Kirk defending his own record.)
Now, apparently, Kirk has a third explanation -- and it has something to do with Al Gore's personal life, as if this is somehow relevant.
I'll never fully understand what in the world voters in Illinois were thinking.
—Steve Benen 1:10 PM
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As for what the people of IL were thinking - well, they weren't.
They listened to Ruadio Rushwanda, watched FOX, read their conservative Op-ed writers, and didn't vote for a great candidate, instead choosing a lying stooge.
Posted by: c u n d gulag on February 2, 2011 at 1:21 PM | PERMALINK
Well, you see, you have to say what you mean by 'pathological'. It's not the same thing as 'habitual', or 'amoral', or 'disgusting'.
Posted by: MattF on February 2, 2011 at 1:23 PM | PERMALINK
Last time I checked, goal-posts were very heavy suckers, and as the Republican are continually moving such posts, I can't but wonder if they are sustaining horrible herniae in their efforts! -Kevo
Posted by: kevo on February 2, 2011 at 1:28 PM | PERMALINK
obama says to Egypt, "Change must begin now!"
OOOOOOOOOOPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is the same guy that demanded a "public option" and then sold it way to the insurance industry and then directly lied to the American people about it.
Why only one side in everything posted here?
Posted by: minot on February 2, 2011 at 1:29 PM | PERMALINK
Well, it was a close election.
Posted by: coldhotel on February 2, 2011 at 1:29 PM | PERMALINK
Given the complete surrender of Republican realists on climate change, it's hard to fault Kirk for his flip flop. Let's acknowledge that at this point, you'd have to leave the party before betraying one of it's key anti-science tenets. But blaming it on Al Gore's marital problem is truly inventive.
Posted by: walt on February 2, 2011 at 1:39 PM | PERMALINK
Al Gore's problem is that he is a Democrat and has a penis, much like Bill Clinton.
On the other hand, the problem with Pelosi is that she's a Democrat, and does not have one.
Posted by: MobiusKlein on February 2, 2011 at 1:49 PM | PERMALINK
From the desk of Senator Mark Kirk...
"...whose reputation for borderline-pathological dishonesty is well deserved..."
To print such a slanderous lie is pathetic, even for such an Obamanaut as Steve Benen.
I assure you that there is absolutely nothing borderline about my pathological dishonesty!
Posted by: CaptainKirk(or was that major or general?) on February 2, 2011 at 1:51 PM | PERMALINK
Based on my (educated and pretty liberal) family, Kirk got a fairly good number of cross-over votes because people remembered his moderate track record, at least in the Chicago area; it was also a way of voicing displeasure with the choice of Giannoulias as a senate candidate and the Illinois machine. To be honest, either candidate was bound to be an embarrassment at some point—Kirk because of his habitual lying and policy flip flops, Giannoulias because of his shady background. At least Kirk has the advantage of not being connected to Obama—anything dumb from a Senator Giannoulias would have been immediately connected to the president, resulting in the medium shitstorm of the century.
Anyway, I’m not sure how good a lock Kirk has on reelection in 2016. I’ve already heard Burris nostalgia, which says something, and there are always the rumors about Kirk’s “naval” sexual preferences, which shouldn’t be grounds for a resignation but would probably be anathema to the Republicans. He might also get primaried, à la Scott Brown in 2012. And with 2016 being a presidential election year, Illinois won’t be suffering the enthusiasm gap of 2010.
Posted by: Beta Magellan on February 2, 2011 at 1:56 PM | PERMALINK
Speaking as an Illinois resident, I echo Beta Magellan - I held my nose and voted for Giannoulias, because these days I'd never vote for a Republican under any circumstances (or waste my vote by not voting for a Democratic opponent, though living in DuPage County as I do there are a lot of offices where I abstain because only Republicans are on the ballot). But I had to hold my nose; Giannoulias wasn't much of a candidate either, and it's not that surprising that Kirk won in a close race.
Posted by: DavidNOE on February 2, 2011 at 2:04 PM | PERMALINK
Agreed. Given Kirk's rep and confusion on sexual orientation (aka the rumor that his wife found him in bed with another man -- they're divorced now), he's the last one who should be bringing up "personal issues."
Posted by: Molly Weasley on February 2, 2011 at 2:05 PM | PERMALINK
minot, @1:29PM
You seem to know the difference between capital and lower case letters. You seem to know where to use which properly. It is, therefore, most striking that *the only place* you use a lower case instead of upper is when you write Obama's name. With that kind of burnt-in hatred, exhibiting itself in childish pouting, you want to be treated seriously? Really?
Posted by: exlibra on February 2, 2011 at 2:07 PM | PERMALINK
What we in Illinois thought about was, "Oh, God, can we have a REAL choice?!" Mark Kirk's Democratic opponent was Alexi Giannoulias -- an ethically-compromised greaseball whose family bank collapsed over very, VERY iffy circumstances (some of which surrounded possible mob money laundering) and who, as Illinois Treasurer, was on the job when a fund designed to help people save money for college collapsed.
Believe me, we wished we had someone halfway decent to vote for ...
Posted by: EdgewaterJoe on February 2, 2011 at 2:17 PM | PERMALINK
Maybe someone should ask Kirk why Gore's "personal and political collapse" has *anything* to do with the SCIENCE of climate change?!
Posted by: Hannah on February 2, 2011 at 2:17 PM | PERMALINK
@ EdgewaterJoe:
you'll remember that we did have someone more than "halfway decent to vote for." his name was david hoffman - for whom i voted in the primary. of course, since my vote in a illinois democratic primary is usually the kiss of death, we can see how far that went.
Posted by: mellowjohn on February 2, 2011 at 2:33 PM | PERMALINK
exlibra I might add what minot is incapable of is having a remote idea of what the conversation is about. I think it's some kind of Obama tourettes syndrome. Either that or minot is actually one of those old pull string dolls with the 4 or 5 banal cliches issueing out of it's lifeless pie hole.
Posted by: Gandalf on February 2, 2011 at 2:37 PM | PERMALINK
Speaking of "science" (not that Republicans can), here's a url for a story about how China and other countries are developing clean thorium-based nuclear power. Good to know we'll be able to be one of their customers. http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2011/02/china-thorium-power/
Posted by: Greg Worley on February 2, 2011 at 2:59 PM | PERMALINK
"minot"
Because your side is over at Rushville and Becktown. Go away. And I think you have been told this before.
But let me explain this to you: Obama nev er said he was against the public option. What he said was 'I'm for it but those stupid lying a...holes over there in Rethug land, and a few of their fellow travelers on our side who think they might be able to sell their souls to get re-elected, they are against it so I can't get it passed in the Congress so I have to make a deal. Now maybe you don't understand the difference, or maybe you are just a BS artist. I don't really care, but this is the reason I dont want you here.
Oh and are you admitting at long last that Kirk is wrong to lie?!
Posted by: robert on February 2, 2011 at 3:55 PM | PERMALINK
Beta, DavidNOE and Edgewater Joe have explained it. c u n d gulag has no idea what he's talking about.
mellowjohn, Hoffman was not only a good candidate; I'm still convinced that he would have beaten Kirk easily once he got his name recognition up downstate. But there was no way he was going to win with the backing that Giannoulias had. Sigh.
Posted by: shortstop on February 2, 2011 at 8:56 PM | PERMALINK
I understand the painful choice you in Illinois had, choosing between a Republican and a *probably* criminal Democrat. The trouble is, considering how destructive Republicans are, *any* Democrat would have been better.
You may remember some years back, folks in Louisiana faced a similar choice - between a crooked Democrat and a racist, white supremacist. They wisely chose the Democrat - who was honest enough to admit what he was.
Posted by: knightphoenix2 on February 2, 2011 at 11:53 PM | PERMALINK
The trouble is, considering how destructive Republicans are, *any* Democrat would have been better.
We know that. We weren't able to convince a sufficient number of low-information independents and moderates of this. Kirk would have lost had he been an open teabagger; those guys still don't fly in Illinois' statewide elections. Instead, he successfully convinced too many people who weren't paying much attention that he's a reasonable fellow.
You may remember some years back, folks in Louisiana faced a similar choice - between a crooked Democrat and a racist, white supremacist. They wisely chose the Democrat - who was honest enough to admit what he was.
Actually, he never stopped denying what he was; everyone else just went on calling a crook a crook without his participation. And there is little doubt that were Louisiana to face the same choice today, Duke would be elected.
Posted by: shortstop on February 3, 2011 at 11:06 AM | PERMALINK
How did I miss the "personal and political collapse" of Al Gore?
Posted by: Eric Faulkner on February 3, 2011 at 10:04 PM | PERMALINK
We can only hope that Kirk is the Peter Fitzgerald of 2016--
a "one-termer." Kirk's election was an absolute tragedy.
No one (no one-not even Republicans) should be surprised at Kirk's recent stupid behavior.
It's the same Kirk we've known here in the 10th Congressional district for 10 years.
Here's hoping we can right the wrong of Kirk's election in 2016.
Posted by: Nick on February 7, 2011 at 12:14 AM | PERMALINK