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February 16, 2011

THE LIMITS OF BEING 'PRO-FAMILY'.... The right finds the strangest things to complain about.

Rep. Michele Bachmann spoke out Tuesday against First Lady Michelle Obama's reported support of tax breaks for breast pumps.

On Laura Ingraham's radio show Tuesday, the Tea Party favorite criticized Mrs. Obama for reportedly endorsing steps she warned could lead to a "nanny state."

"I've given birth to five babies and I breast fed every single one of these babies," Bachmann, R-Minn., said. "To think that government has to go out and buy my breast pump for my babies. I mean, you want to talk about the nanny state? I think you just got a new definition -- a new definition of the nanny."

On Fox News last night, Tucker Carlson was whining, too. He told Sean Hannity, "It takes a lot of time to make those kinds of decisions [about raising children]. You are a busy man. Why would you want to raise your own kids when Michelle Obama will do it for you? In fact, she will do it at gunpoint."

Given these reactions, you'd think the First Lady had done something truly outrageous. In Grown-Up Land, Michelle Obama has said breast-feeding helps combat childhood obesity, and has pointed to the fact that breast pumps and related supplies are tax-deductible as designated medical supplies. It's hardly shocking.

This, Bachmann said, is "very consistent with where the hard left is coming from."

Remember when the right used to talk about the need for "pro-family" policies that gave a hand to parents? I wonder whatever happened to those conservatives.

Steve Benen 9:15 AM Permalink | Trackbacks | Comments (43)

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They are pro-family. Just pro-rich-white family. Phuck everyone else.

Posted by: r on February 16, 2011 at 9:19 AM | PERMALINK

WTF? Gunpoint? That Tucker is one giant ass.

Posted by: Alli on February 16, 2011 at 9:22 AM | PERMALINK

As oppossed to Bachman's Ninny state.. This shit is depressing first thing of the day! These people are a genuine crisis and they don't even know it.

Posted by: Trollop on February 16, 2011 at 9:29 AM | PERMALINK

Tucker is as close to the Gabbie character in Paramounts "Gulliver's Travels" as a silhouette .

Posted by: FRP on February 16, 2011 at 9:30 AM | PERMALINK

The simple answer to why Bachmann and @ucker are against this is because it is something the benefits middle and low income American's. This is the class of people those two and all their shpeople want to put into servitude. Tax breaks for rich white people only is their slogan!

Posted by: nodak on February 16, 2011 at 9:31 AM | PERMALINK

If an Obama (or a Democrat in general) says it, it's bad. It doesn't matter what the subject is. And they don't seem to care how crazy they sound as long as they can bash the Dems.

Posted by: millsapian87 on February 16, 2011 at 9:33 AM | PERMALINK

Why does the media take these idiots seriously? That just makes them accessories to stupidity.

Posted by: Roger on February 16, 2011 at 9:36 AM | PERMALINK

This faction of lunatics is perhaps one of the largest threats to this country we've ever faced.

Posted by: citizen_pain on February 16, 2011 at 9:37 AM | PERMALINK

If Michelle had taken on literacy like Laura then the right would have been accusing her of trying to get kids to read left wing propaganda.

Posted by: Alli on February 16, 2011 at 9:37 AM | PERMALINK

Millsapian nails it. This isn't some "policy" or even ideological dispute. This is just another example of how the right wages Total Political War. Constantly.

Posted by: walt on February 16, 2011 at 9:39 AM | PERMALINK

If the Republicans had not DESTROYED the America Family, by forcing women to abandon their motherhood role, and enter the workforce, just to keep that family's head above water, then she would be at home, nursing her children the way the Good Lord designed females of every mammalian species! (End rant. . .)

Posted by: DAY on February 16, 2011 at 9:39 AM | PERMALINK

Tax breaks for breast pumps = wicked socialism.
Tax breaks for oil and coal industries = holy free enterprise.

It's foolish to expect logical consistency or even minimal decency from such people.

Posted by: Kevin on February 16, 2011 at 9:42 AM | PERMALINK

"Remember when the right used to talk about the need for "pro-family" policies that gave a hand to parents? I wonder whatever happened to those conservatives."

I think those conservatives were all breast or pump fed by their Moms.

The latest generation were weaned on either formula or battery acid.


PS: There's a Tucker and breast joke just hanging up there like a lame curveball, but I'll leave it for someone else to hit out of the park.

Posted by: c u n d gulag on February 16, 2011 at 9:43 AM | PERMALINK

Amazing that Benen would provide info on anything said by Tucker Carlson and Michelle Bachmann.

Talk about dumb and dumber. Sorry, really mean dumber and dumbest.

In the world of real conservatives, it is necessary to attack anything done or said by the scary people of the world. The relationship of the attack to reality is not relevant.

Real conservatives know that the top three list of scary people is:
3) Any democrat
2) Any black or brown democrat
1) Any black or brown female democrat

Posted by: AmusedOldVet on February 16, 2011 at 9:45 AM | PERMALINK

"I wonder whatever happened to those conservatives."

duh....maybe we elected a black guy president.

Posted by: T2 on February 16, 2011 at 9:49 AM | PERMALINK

"I've given birth to five babies and I breast fed every single one of these babies,"

Why am I imagining all at once and under the porch?

Posted by: SaintZak on February 16, 2011 at 9:52 AM | PERMALINK

Remembering that the only type of family that the Republicans are "pro" is the kind with a husband who works in an office and a wife who works at home raising the kids would help you sort this one out.

Posted by: Fall Line on February 16, 2011 at 9:52 AM | PERMALINK

Two of the world's biggest asses spewing nonsense on Fox Noise. Why would anyone even put themselves through the agony of listening to these buffoons on any station is beyond me...

Posted by: stevio on February 16, 2011 at 9:53 AM | PERMALINK

On the other hand, Republicans (at least in South Dakota) do support shooting your daughter's doctor if she's doing something you disagree with. So there's that.

Posted by: Basilsic on February 16, 2011 at 9:53 AM | PERMALINK

Remembering that the only type of family that the Republicans are "pro" is the kind with a husband who works in an office and a wife who works at home raising the kids would help you sort this one out.
Posted by: Fall Line on February 16, 2011 at 9:52 AM | PERMALINK***************

True, but,as usual, it's "do as I say, not as I do" as we watch Ms. Bachman preach about this from her J-O-B.

Posted by: In what respect, Charlie? on February 16, 2011 at 10:00 AM | PERMALINK

Wait, are you saying these supplies are already deductible? And the far right mouthpieces are taking gleeful advantage of a chance to accuse the Obamas of forcing us all to knuckle under to the socialist agenda at the point of a government gun? You might as well say the sun rose today.

Posted by: Lifelong Dem on February 16, 2011 at 10:04 AM | PERMALINK

This, Bachmann said, is "very consistent with where the hard left is coming from."

Yes, Michele. The Hard Left is coming from the point of view that Americans should take advantage of ALREADY LONG ESTABLISHED tax deductions. Scary for you, is it?

Posted by: g on February 16, 2011 at 10:16 AM | PERMALINK

Unfortunately for sane people everywhere, and to the great detriment of America, the lunacy will continue unabated. The voting public has recently endorsed this Republican policy of total insanity. All this ranting, screeching, howling, and frothing works wonders to elect Republicans. Why on Earth would they let up - they've got a Presidency to win back?

Posted by: ckelly on February 16, 2011 at 10:21 AM | PERMALINK

Of course the rethugs still want to control a womans uterus.

Posted by: j on February 16, 2011 at 10:22 AM | PERMALINK

Breast pump = mommy leaving a fridge full of milk while she's at work and baby is raised by the Corporation for Public Broadcasting. Real American Women do what their mammaries tell them: stay at home.

Posted by: Grumpy on February 16, 2011 at 10:30 AM | PERMALINK

Bachmann is a selfish bitch, it's all about her and constantly needs something to complain about. She doesn't give a crap about any familes.

Posted by: Silver Owl on February 16, 2011 at 10:42 AM | PERMALINK

"Pro-family"
means "anti-women." Just as "pro-life" does. These boys have some really "mommy issues."

Posted by: zandru on February 16, 2011 at 10:50 AM | PERMALINK

Tucker has a chronic condition, he wears his bow ties too tight, which cuts off circulation to his upper extremities. Brain dead by choice.

Posted by: Ted76 on February 16, 2011 at 10:52 AM | PERMALINK

"Why would you want to raise your own kids when Michelle Obama will do it for you? In fact, she will do it at gunpoint."--Tucker Carlson

Blisteringly stupid.

Posted by: CRA on February 16, 2011 at 11:02 AM | PERMALINK

That's rich coming from Bachmann, considering she's been content to suck at the teat of taxpayers, with her family farm collecting $250,000 in farming subsidies - subsidies which apparently allowed her a $50,000 income from the farm in 2008.

Posted by: June on February 16, 2011 at 11:14 AM | PERMALINK

Saint Zak wins the tread.

Posted by: BrendanInBoston on February 16, 2011 at 11:32 AM | PERMALINK

I have always been fat. All three of my ex-wives are fat. All my children from all my marriages are fat.

This is America. It's our right to be obese. The First Nanny Lady will just have to deal with it and lay off her post birth eugenics.

Posted by: Mlke K on February 16, 2011 at 12:08 PM | PERMALINK

SIDE NOTE: one of Bachmann's and other right wingers favorite phrases seems to be "at the point of a gun" which precludes any discussion based on a rational basis. I think this point ought to be made when talking with these folks in a public forum. I have not quite got the concept down yet...

Meanwhile, for a humorous take on Jan Brewer's economic policy see: http://twitgoo.com/1z87qv

Posted by: KurtRex1453 on February 16, 2011 at 12:11 PM | PERMALINK

lmao @ Mlke K's "post birth eugenics"

Not sure how that would work, seeing how eugenics is about breeding, but hey, it's a hilarious concept.

Posted by: Mitch on February 16, 2011 at 12:16 PM | PERMALINK

Steve Benen wrote: "Remember when the right used to talk about the need for 'pro-family' policies that gave a hand to parents?"

Actually, no. I don't remember anyone on the "right" ever supporting policies that "gave a hand to parents".

As far as I can remember, for the right, "pro-family" has always and only meant "using the power of the state to force women to bear children against their will".

Posted by: SecularAnimist on February 16, 2011 at 12:16 PM | PERMALINK

Bachmann also has an ownership stake in a Wisconsin family farm. From 1995 through 2006, the Bachmann family farm has received $251,973 in federal subsidies, chiefly for dairy and corn price supports.
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/michelle_bachman_welfare_queen_20091221/
So government help to purchase breast pumps FOR COWS is OK?

Posted by: jjdaddyo on February 16, 2011 at 12:38 PM | PERMALINK

OH MY GAWD, NOT A TAX BREAK. We all know how opposed the Republicans are to those.

Posted by: Freddie on February 16, 2011 at 12:58 PM | PERMALINK

Every time I think right wing hysterics has gone as far as it can, it continues escalating. Are they all ingesting meds which should not be taken together?

Posted by: mlm on February 16, 2011 at 1:06 PM | PERMALINK

Apparently, the tax break to treat breast pumps as medical equipment is not some old thing, somehow missed by everyone, but a newborn itself. From the TPM article on the same subject:
The government has taken recent steps to promote breastfeeding, including a ruling last week by the Internal Revenue Service to declare breast pumps and other nursing supplies as medical tax deductions.

Posted by: exlibra on February 16, 2011 at 1:07 PM | PERMALINK

This "tax break" is very minor. You have to have more than 7.5 percent of AGI in medical expenses before any deductions count - and then only the aomount above the cutoff is deductable. And even if you itemize medical expenses (most people don't), your tax break is less than a third of the cost in most cases. And how much can a breast pump cost, anyway?

Still it's rather rich to hear Republicans complaining about minor tax breaks that help young mothers after fighting tooth and nail to protect the incomes of the plutocrats.

Why can't the Dems capitalize on this great material they are being handed?

Posted by: Virginia on February 16, 2011 at 1:18 PM | PERMALINK

Just like always, they only care about babies and families until the babies are born. Then it's all Ayn Rand individualism.

Posted by: JoyousMN on February 16, 2011 at 1:31 PM | PERMALINK

It's not about family. It's not about child rearing. It's all about politics ... as usual with wingers.

Posted by: Shadow on February 16, 2011 at 11:31 PM | PERMALINK

Well, college tuition for your kids is tax-deductible, too, as are eyeglasses and crutches. Does that fall under the "nanny state"?

Posted by: Nancy on February 17, 2011 at 12:19 AM | PERMALINK




 

 

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