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March 15, 2011

BUYERS' REMORSE IN OHIO.... It's a political dynamic we've seen many times before. An incumbent becomes unpopular for reasons that aren't his/her fault, leading voters to elect someone from the other party in order to get a change in direction. Voters then realize the new person is much worse and feel buyers' remorse.

We're seeing a terrific example of this in Ohio. Former Gov. Ted Strickland (D) was narrowly defeated in November as the state's economy continued to struggle, ousted by Gov. John Kasich (R), the strange former congressman and Lehman Brothers executive, who almost certainly would have lost under normal circumstances.

And after a few months of watching the Kasich administration, Ohioans wish he had lost.

We find [Kasich] with just a 35% approval rating and 54% of voters disapproving of him. His approval with people who voted for him is already all the way down to 71%, while he's won over just 5% of folks who report having voted for Ted Strickland last fall. Particularly concerning for him is a 33/54 spread with independents.

Voters in the state are having significant buyers' remorse about the results of last fall's election. In a rematch 55% say they would now vote for Ted Strickland to just 40% who would vote for Kasich.

That's from Public Policy Polling. A new Ohio Poll from the University of Cincinnati shows similar results, with Kasich's support dropping to just 40%.

What's more, the governor's standing may yet deteriorate further, when voters see what else he's up to.

Reporters have been told they will not be allowed to broadcast sound and images from the Tuesday release of Ohio Gov. John Kasich's budget plan.

Spokeswoman Connie Wehrkamp says journalists can bring only pens, notepads and tape recorders to the afternoon briefing, where Kasich is to announce the first details of his state spending blueprint for the next two years. She says videos and photos will be prohibited and the audio may not be used for anything but checking accuracy.

In case you're curious, the answer is no, there is no legal mechanism that allows Ohio voters to recall a governor.

Steve Benen 12:30 PM Permalink | Trackbacks | Comments (33)

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Where is the spine among the journalists? Some news org. ought to sue the state! Have they no open meeting laws? It must be a public meeting!!

Hell in a Teaparty handbasket.

Posted by: Nanuq on March 15, 2011 at 12:36 PM | PERMALINK

small govt for the win. Hey newspapers journalists you can only report on my work with a typewriter and a walkman. I know its 2011 but its the best i can do

Posted by: allamr18 on March 15, 2011 at 12:38 PM | PERMALINK

Maybe we should be thankful that the Governor is letting in pens, pencils and taperecorders.

Next time, he might want only crayons allowed so only Teabaggers can know what he's talking about; and Etch-a-Sketches for a visual record.

Posted by: c u n d gulag on March 15, 2011 at 12:41 PM | PERMALINK

THe people in Ohio, like the people in wisconsin, knew what they were getting...and they voted for these clowns anyway. I'd say I don't feel sorry for them, but the country will suffer greatly for the stupidity of the American voter once again.

Buyers' remorse, yeah right, until the next election.

Posted by: SaintZak on March 15, 2011 at 12:47 PM | PERMALINK

Recall in Ohio can be instituted with a ballot iniative and that is already in the plans in Ohio. To say that kasich is strange is an understatement but in the galaxy of right wing fascist governors he probably fits about in the middle which makes him more than strange. It makes him dangerous. REcall Kasich now.

Posted by: Gandalf on March 15, 2011 at 12:49 PM | PERMALINK

I'll confessed to being a little surprised by all of this. Kasich is not stupid. Prior to 2010, he wasn't exactly known as a far-right ideologue. Yet something happened that put Movement Conservatism in the driver's seat. Maybe all those corporate benefactors expected something for their contributions. If so, their overreach may finally get the Reagan Democrats' attention.

Posted by: walt on March 15, 2011 at 12:53 PM | PERMALINK

I, too, wonder how they can do this with open meeting laws. What would prevent a journalist from using tape or video from a handheld device?

Posted by: g on March 15, 2011 at 1:00 PM | PERMALINK

Lawsuits, lawsuits, and more lawsuits filed against every elected official in Ohio... If you keep the pressure up they are bound to change or crack. Concurrently, public referendum on adding recall to constitution of Ohio.

Posted by: KurtRex1453 on March 15, 2011 at 1:08 PM | PERMALINK

If they let them record it I don't believe they can stop them from broadcasting the recording. There might be some legal recourse after the broadcast, I don't know, but to stop them from broadcasting surely would be prior restraint. I don't think the courts would allow that.

Posted by: kw on March 15, 2011 at 1:09 PM | PERMALINK

I have absolutely zero sympathy for those fuckwits in Ohio; people who vote Republican deserve every bit of pain and suffering they get. And no, they won't learn anything from this.

Oh, and dear reporters: boycott that fascist fuck's press release. He needs you more than you need him.

Posted by: Monty on March 15, 2011 at 1:13 PM | PERMALINK

Who knew that there would be a nostalgia for the days when the mindless , common conservative refrains included "if you've done nothing wrong you have nothing to hide" .
Double down , its not just for destroying families now .

Posted by: FRP on March 15, 2011 at 1:14 PM | PERMALINK

same numbers here in Florida for convicted criminal governor Rick Scott.
35% = Teabaggers and other assorted backwoods low info voters.

Posted by: John R on March 15, 2011 at 1:21 PM | PERMALINK

Last fall, the Tea Baggers, with their funny hats and misspelled signs, raged against the machine. "We're mad as hell, and we don't know why!"

-maybe they should have thought about the "WHY", before they headed for the polls.

Perhaps there will be a silver lining, in 2014- "Once bitten, twice shy."
-Nah. . .

Posted by: DAY on March 15, 2011 at 1:22 PM | PERMALINK

Maybe a tv station in Ohio needs to hire James O'Keefe to go in and record it for them.

If they don't storm the meeting with cameras and recorders than they deserve to be treated like that.

Posted by: martin on March 15, 2011 at 1:23 PM | PERMALINK

Elections have consequences. Dumbfuckery has consequences. Dumbfucks in the voting booths? Ai yi yi.

Posted by: hells littlest angel on March 15, 2011 at 1:24 PM | PERMALINK

The news organizations should record it then put it on the internet as the top story so everyone can download and play it to their heart's content. The government cannot tell journalists and news organizations how to report the news. This is one of our basic rights. The government does not own the recording. Dare the government to sue over putting the recording on the internet. Mock them. Dare them to do it.

Posted by: cb on March 15, 2011 at 1:26 PM | PERMALINK

Reporters have been told they will not be allowed to broadcast sound and images ...

What country is this again? [eyes scroll to top of page] Ohio! I know Texas has a corner on "A (w)hole other country" but now there is open competition. If they can go this far, why not tell the Republican networks to just transmit sound bars and elevator music? Watching my country crack and crumble sure takes on some weird angles.

Posted by: Kevin (not the famous one) on March 15, 2011 at 1:38 PM | PERMALINK

Since Kasich doesn't want his picture taken, the media should allot that time spot to Dems bashing his plan. Next time he might actually ask the media nicely for some coverage. And they should stiff him.

Posted by: Tim H on March 15, 2011 at 1:41 PM | PERMALINK

Actually, the Dems should take a look at this and realize what they need to do if they ever take power again. Steve answered his own question.

Here's what happens, if the economy recovers - they'll win re-election.

If the economy is still in the dumps they'll lose, but they'll have accomplished their major goals, it will be difficult for the new government to undo all of their policy changes. Doing stuff is hard, undoing stuff is harder.

On the national level think about it, Gitmo, Bush Tax Cuts, DADT (and think about that, it passed with 66 senators and pulling teeth was easier) and so on and so on.

Posted by: Dervin on March 15, 2011 at 1:44 PM | PERMALINK

Wow. I thought Walker was taking a nose-dive, but he's coming up roses compared to Kasich. Once his budget numbers are released, he'll probably crash into Bush territory.

Got to make Obama happy, however, because having a GOP governor with the popularity of bubonic plague can only help his reelection efforts in Ohio. Same thing in Wisconsin. And Florida. And, well, let's just say the GOP electing all these swing-state governors last year might prove to be a colossal mistake as they become more and more unpopular.

Posted by: gf120581 on March 15, 2011 at 1:45 PM | PERMALINK

I'm an Ohio resident and a Democrat. I most assuredly did not vote for Kasich. However, I get impatient with all this talk about recalls. The citizens, for whatever God-forsaken reason, decided to replace Strickland with Kasich. But it was a legitimate election and Kasich IS doing what he said he'd do. No hidden agenda here. We have elections for just this reason - to replace those with whom we disagree or no longer support. Recall should only be used in those rare instances where the elected individual actually broke the law or committed some other egregious act. Simply implementing policies you don't like isn't a good enough reason. Sorry, fellow Ohioans, but you'll have your chance again in 2014.

Posted by: Wayne on March 15, 2011 at 1:48 PM | PERMALINK

Just saw "Despicable Me" for the first time last week.

Best joke in the movie is the scene in which Gru (the title character) needs to get a loan, so he goes to the "Bank of Evil." As he passes by the sign, under the name in small letters under "Bank of Evil" it reads "formerly Lehman Brothers."

Posted by: JEA on March 15, 2011 at 1:53 PM | PERMALINK

Umm, saintzak,
these yo-yos were elected by approximately 51% of voters it was no mandate. But I suppose dipsticks like you can't consider the fact that 49% of us affected by these terrible people worked our butts off trying to prevent it. You might want to think about how you'd feel if it happens to you. Do you think you would deserve it? I mean YOU elected them.

Posted by: dave on March 15, 2011 at 1:54 PM | PERMALINK

Sorry Wayne but your full of shit. Recalls are not strictly about illegal acts that's called impeachment. And if enough people want to have a recall election then let's go for it. OR would you just prefer that the state of Ohio becomes another corporate acquisition?

Posted by: Gandalf on March 15, 2011 at 2:08 PM | PERMALINK

Sorry Wayne but your full of shit. Recalls are not strictly about illegal acts that's called impeachment. And if enough people want to have a recall election then let's go for it. OR would you just prefer that the state of Ohio becomes another corporate acquisition?

Posted by: Gandalf on March 15, 2011 at 2:11 PM | PERMALINK

Ohio, the heart of all the petty bullshit!

(Improved license plate slogan)

Posted by: Trollop on March 15, 2011 at 2:15 PM | PERMALINK

Agreed with Gandalf. If an elected official is poised to run their state into the ground, that's enough justification for a recall.

Posted by: Kris on March 15, 2011 at 2:16 PM | PERMALINK

I'm with Monty:
"people who vote Republican deserve every bit of pain and suffering they get"

I am sure the voters didn't know what they were really getting, since Republicans lie all the time about everything. It's sad to say that,because it wasn't always true. Why, I remember one time when Nixon told the truth, I think . . .

Posted by: Daniel Kim on March 15, 2011 at 2:28 PM | PERMALINK

Wayne! World class concern trolling. That was worth the price of your post!

"sure he is a fascist traitor, but by golly we just have to sit back and watch him dismantle the state and our prosperity."

None of these tea partier governors would be vexing us without Citizens United and corrupt outside interests. We need to recall everyone of the Bastards.

Posted by: Sparko on March 15, 2011 at 3:06 PM | PERMALINK

Impeachment is not just for illegal acts. It is a political process for extreme cases of poor or outrageous performance.

Suppose the Governor decided to watch EPSN all day and sign a few papers from time to time. That's not illegal, but I expect it would be impeachable.

Recalls work the same way. I don't think it should be impossible to recall an elected official but it should be quite difficult. It should take widespread revulsion to motivate enough people to take an extraordinary step. I have no problem with the recall mechanism in Wisconsin (you have to get 1/4 of the people who voted to agree just to schedule the recall vote, and you only get 60 days to get them to sign -- that's a pretty high threshold).

Suppose a Governor decided to sell off all the State Parks to private developers, to get a one-time cash infusion for his budget, and hadn't said anything of the sort during the campaign? And had enough libertarian nuts in the legislature to go along with it? That would be pretty awful -- you'd want to be able to recall him for something like that.

Posted by: Z. Mulls on March 15, 2011 at 3:40 PM | PERMALINK

IMPEACH ( indict) Kaisch for going agianst the US CONSTITUTION and probably the OHIO CONSTITUTION in not allowing of SPEECH. They won't be able to stop YOUTUBE I BET

Posted by: ML Johnston on March 15, 2011 at 4:12 PM | PERMALINK

Why do I think now is a good time to invest in spy cams?

Posted by: MsJoanney on March 15, 2011 at 5:06 PM | PERMALINK

If recall is a legitimate part of a state's constitution, then it is a democratic process. After all, it's an election, not a coup. It brings a state a little closer to a parliamentary system, where if people see that they're heading straight for a cliff, they don't have to keep driving until the next scheduled election.

Sometimes I wish our federal government had such a mechanism. It could hardly make our politics any more tumultuous and nasty than it already is, and it might save us from at least a little bad policy. It certainly would not hurt if politicians felt more of an obligation to tell us what they intend before an election is held.

Posted by: tamiasmin on March 15, 2011 at 5:12 PM | PERMALINK




 

 

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