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March 25, 2011

QUOTE OF THE DAY.... On Fox News this morning, Bill Hemmer, after some gratuitous shots at President Obama, asked Sen. John McCain about U.S. policy in Libya, most notably who would replace Gadhafi if McCain gets his wish about regime change.

HEMMER: I know you want Gadhafi out; the whole world knows he's a bad man. But what takes his place? You were just in Afghanistan, I believe, right? And you know, some of the al Qaeda fighters -- they're hiding out in Pakistan or crossing the border into Afghanistan -- come from Libya. Now, how concerned are you that if you kick Gadhafi out, that you allow Islamists then, as bad as he might be, to take control in Tripoli?

MCCAIN: Well, I don't think we worried too much when we wanted to get rid of Hitler as to who would take his place.

McCain then changed the subject, letting viewers know that the rebels have a website. (Seriously, that's what he said. He even encouraged viewers to visit it, saying, "Go on it. They are people from all over Libya.")

By any reasonable standard, this isn't a real answer to a legitimate question. It's the guy-at-the-end-of-the-bar kind of response, not the kind of thing one would hope to hear from the ranking U.S. senator on the Senate Armed Services Committee.

But putting aside McCain's intellectual laziness, I'm curious about the follow up Bill Hemmer didn't think to ask: if Gadhafi is Hitler, and the Libyan dictator has American blood on his hands, why did McCain personally visit with Gadhafi in August 2009 to discuss delivery of American military equipment to the Libyan regime?

Why, after his face-to-face chat, did the senator offer praise for Gadhafi, instead of condemning him?

Indeed, if McCain was having a friendly chat at the ranch of a tyrant he considers a modern-day Hitler, shouldn't the senator have tried to strangle the monster right there on the spot, instead of talking about U.S. aid to the guy?

Update: Here's the clip of this morning's Fox News interview:


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"personal visit with Kadaffiduck"

Now, where have I read of any personal visits with a dictator? Seems as though Saddam had a visit in the '80s from someone? Rums, something or other?

Posted by: berttheclock on March 25, 2011 at 1:30 PM | PERMALINK

McCain isn't even right about World War II, since there was in fact a great deal of thought put into who would take Hitler's place, as would be expected from people who remembered 1919. My understanding is that Field Marshal Rommel was the original choice, but after his assisted suicide, perhaps partly because Dolfi and the boys were aware that he was being considered as a possible conservative Protestant non-Nazi successor, they settled on Adenauer, who was a good choice.

Posted by: Gene O'Grady on March 25, 2011 at 1:42 PM | PERMALINK

Pick a dictator. Any dictator. My guess is that you'd find a group picture in his/her wallet of some US suck-up among the assorted characters pictured. My guess he/she'd be standing adjacent to an Englishman or a Frenchman, etc. To those of you who haven't figured it out yet, it's the ALMIGHTY TRIAD: Religion/Money/Politics.

Feel free to arrange them in the priority that best facilitates your particular read on any event that has ever happened since the advent of the three. Nauseating...

Posted by: stevio on March 25, 2011 at 1:43 PM | PERMALINK

"By any reasonable standard, this isn't a real answer to a legitimate question."


It's a flippant answer but it's not actually all that unreasonable given the Islamist super-villain paranoia that FOX pukes out 24/7.

Mike

Posted by: MBunge on March 25, 2011 at 1:43 PM | PERMALINK

Why even ask this question? You know they're not going to ask the question, even on the less slanted news shows. Liberals should stop wringing their hands over media laziness, they should take a page out of the conservatives' book and use it to their advantage to shape the liberal message.

Posted by: bos;n on March 25, 2011 at 1:43 PM | PERMALINK

Steve, buddy, do you really expect McCain to even be able to REMEMBER 2009??

I doubt he can remember where he was last week.

Hell, he's lucky to put on matching socks most mornings.

Posted by: Mitch on March 25, 2011 at 1:45 PM | PERMALINK

McCain is an old fool, but he was also a young fool. Remember all his crashed airplanes?

Why anyone credits his intelligence on anything is RIDICULOUS.

Posted by: jjm on March 25, 2011 at 1:46 PM | PERMALINK

What a stupid example. The Soviets and U.S. were in fact in a mad dash for the remains of Nazi Germany as the war wound done. The immediate upshot of "replacing Hitler" was that half of Germany and all of Eastern Europe fell behind the Iron Curtain. That was better than having Hitler destroying all of Europe, but clearly it was something the US "worried about." Numbskull.

Posted by: harokin on March 25, 2011 at 1:53 PM | PERMALINK

Andy why isn't any other corporate media outlet, like 'meet the patsies' with swollen lips Gregory, CNN, the network morning shows featuring yet more of the corporate media elite, etc not not only asking these questions but, within them, pointing out to McShit and all the viewers the flip flops he has made .. why not ? and there you have your fucking corporate agenda .. could not be more plain .... they just want fucking soundbites from hemorrhoids like McShit in order to undermine Obama and thus advance the corporate agenda ..

Posted by: stormskies on March 25, 2011 at 1:55 PM | PERMALINK

Our MSM have an obsession with Newt and McCain. YOu can't turn the TV on Sunday, or any other day for that matter, without one of these two ignorant clowns being on somewhere.

Though why a disgraced former Speaker, and a candidate who picked the singe most unintelligent running partner in the history of this country when running for President, are asked their opinion about ANYTHING, is beyond me.

Posted by: c u n d gulag on March 25, 2011 at 2:05 PM | PERMALINK

McCain shoots from the hip - blurts out the first thing he can pronounce. Just like George Bush, Rummy, most of those guys.
If you don't know the answer.....say something flip or funny and move on.....most of the stupid loser's I knew in High School did the same thing.

Posted by: T2 on March 25, 2011 at 2:09 PM | PERMALINK

As OUR corporately owned media are in the entertainment business, they should have a fascination with Senator McCain and should have him as their lead guest more frequently than they do!

It is and will always be interesting to see what Senator McCain's opinion is on any topic. As, for most topics, he has taken both sides of issues; it is always interesting to see which opinion he will express on any given day. That has a hell of a lot more entertainment value than getting some boring person who you already know what they believe!

Posted by: RepublicanPointOfView on March 25, 2011 at 2:14 PM | PERMALINK

MCCAIN: Well, I don't think we worried too much when we wanted to get rid of Hitler as to who would take his place.

actually mccain's wrong. the allies eventually determined that assassinating hitler would prolong the war because the germans were likely to replace him with a more competent leader who would better prosecute the war.

Posted by: mudwall jackson on March 25, 2011 at 2:27 PM | PERMALINK

re T2, c u n d gulag, and other commenters who disparage the intelligence of the honorable Senator McCain...

Your attacks on Senator McCain are unjust and vicious!!!

1) John is not the stupidest person around. In fact, there was one person with lower academics in his Naval Academy graduating class!

2) John had to select Sarah as his running mate. There were limited choices available to not make him look like the stupid person on the ticket!

3) Do NOT CONFUSE stupidity with senility! John has both!

4) John has a right to be angry. From getting into the Naval Academy to graduating from the Academy, to getting his Naval assignments, to getting elected Congressman, to getting elected Senator; John has always been entitled! On two occasions, that of being asked to leave the Navy because of extra-marital affairs and that of not receiving the presidency, John has been betrayed and not received what he was entitled to.

5) After losing his presidency to the n1gger, President McCain is entitled to all of the media air time!

Posted by: SadOldVet on March 25, 2011 at 2:28 PM | PERMALINK

You still avoid the question of whether Obama has done or is doing the right thing in Libya. Sure, McCain repeatedly demonstrates how he was a weak candidate in 2008, but he won't be running in 2012.

Posted by: MatthewRMarler on March 25, 2011 at 2:33 PM | PERMALINK

I seem to recall about 45 years of armed conflict abut who would run Germany (and the rest of the world) after Hitler. You'd think John McCain could remember that, too.

Posted by: rea on March 25, 2011 at 2:35 PM | PERMALINK

It's pretty simple: John McCain is Chamberlain. That's the correct wingnut term for politicians who "appease" despots who are as bad as Hitler, right?

Posted by: Redshift on March 25, 2011 at 2:43 PM | PERMALINK

It's pretty simple: John McCain is Chamberlain. That's the correct wingnut term for politicians who "appease" despots who are as bad as Hitler, right?

Posted by: Redshift on March 25, 2011 at 2:43 PM | PERMALINK

Another view of our powers to be during the middle and latter stages of WWII concerning any replacement of Hitler was that Hitler was making mistake after mistake. Biggest myth of that war was that Hitler was a military genius. The list of his blunders following the march into France is endless. At least with Hitler alive, went the argument, we knew our opponent.

Posted by: berttheclock on March 25, 2011 at 3:32 PM | PERMALINK

The real question here is not 'what would McCain do?" The real question is 'who cares what McCain would do?' Does anyone really care? Really? Don't be surprised if tries to run for president again? After all, he probably doesn't remember that he lost the last election.

Posted by: sparky on March 25, 2011 at 3:41 PM | PERMALINK

McCain can't kill Qadafi.

Without Qadafi, world technology wouldn't advance enough to invent time travel and then he'd never have been born.

(Okay, YOU come up with a better explanation how he finds the time to do talk shows every single Sunday morning.)

Posted by: toowearyforoutrage on March 25, 2011 at 4:20 PM | PERMALINK

Why, after his face-to-face chat, did the senator offer praise for Gadhafi, instead of condemning him?

"Because Gadhafi may be a sonofabitch, but he's our sonofabitch! Now you goddamn kids, get offa my lawn!"

Posted by: John McCain on March 25, 2011 at 5:17 PM | PERMALINK

You're right, it's just like Hitler. We shouldn't worry about who will replace him, we should just directly occupy the country for a few decades. That's what people want, right?

Posted by: Jurgan on March 25, 2011 at 10:20 PM | PERMALINK




 

 

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