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May 3, 2011

RICE'S LIMITED VIEW OF HISTORY.... I'm going to hope she just misspoke and didn't actually mean this.

It didn't take long after the momentous announcement of Osama bin Laden's death for conservatives to start taking credit and claiming vindication for the Bush administration's counterterrorism policies. This morning on Fox & Friends, former National Security Adviser and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice joined the chorus of conservatives heaping praise onto her former boss, suggesting that Bush's bullhorn speech at Ground Zero was "probably the most important moment maybe in American history."

Really, she said that. It's on video.

Fox News' Brian Kilmeade argued that it would be "nice" for President Obama to invite George W. Bush to join him at Ground Zero on Thursday. Rice dodged that, but said, "President Bush had at Ground Zero probably the most important moment maybe in American history. It was when this wounded nation watched their commander-in-chief stand on that rubble and say that they will hear us, we are going to avenge this."

Um, Condi? It was a good moment, and it was powerful imagery, but to suggest the bullhorn speech may have been "the most important moment maybe in American history" is so absurd, it's almost comical.

Rice went on to defend the observation, noting the bullhorn speech was "a clarion call to the nation at Ground Zero," which in turn led to a successful war in Afghanistan, a successful war in Iraq, and many defeats for al Qaeda, and the death of bin Laden. "Surely," Rice added, "this is all coming into place and President Bush began that with that call to the nation."

Remember, in the Bush/Cheney administration, Condoleezza Rice was considered one of the least ridiculous figures.

I'd like to think this goes without saying, but in case anyone's inclined to think Rice's assessment has merit, Bush badly handled the conflict in Afghanistan; Bush's handling of the war in Iraq was a fiasco for the ages; the Bush administration's track record on counter-terrorism was genuinely awful; and Bush downplayed the significance of bin Laden for most of his two terms.

And I can think of several hundred moments that were more important in American history than Bush's speech at Ground Zero.

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I always remember Bush looking like a scared rabbit reading "My Pet Goat" when we were under attack.

Posted by: Objective Dem on May 3, 2011 at 2:14 PM | PERMALINK

Can someone find the Stephen Colbert quote he made at the annual National Press Club party where he talked about Bush showing the strength of his administration while standing on the World Trade Center rubble?

Posted by: FiveFeetHighNRisin on May 3, 2011 at 2:14 PM | PERMALINK

Yeah - that whole freeing a race of people from a despicable chattel slavery thing was peanuts compared to Dubya with a bullhorn.

Condi was, is, and has always been a sad joke.

Ugh.

Posted by: Trinity on May 3, 2011 at 2:15 PM | PERMALINK

Doesn't she have some dissertation defense to terrorize, or perhaps some dull parking committee to chair. Bush's apathy and blundering is the only thing that ultimately should be highlighted. the need to somehow canonize him suggests the difference between this moment and the unity that followed 9-11.

Posted by: Rich on May 3, 2011 at 2:15 PM | PERMALINK

And of course lost in the recall of that moment was once again Bush Admin's "stagecraft" over substance. What did he say into the bullhorn? "I can hear you! I can hear you! The rest of the world hears you! And the people -- and the people who knocked these buildings down will hear all of us soon!"

But his Admin never did capture or kill OBL.

Posted by: JohnE on May 3, 2011 at 2:16 PM | PERMALINK

These people simply leave in a utterly delusional universe, completely fact free, and this will never change. If they were to admit that just one thing is wrong in their delusional construction of reality they would then be forced to admit that their entire delusional universe is also wrong. That just won't happen. And, of course, this is why when fact are presented to these people they simply are reduced to the ultimate delusional dodge: " I don't 'believe' that. And so it goes .........

Posted by: stormskies on May 3, 2011 at 2:20 PM | PERMALINK

Condi may have in a general sense been considered one of the least ridiculous W admin figures, but that general statement is subject to the critical exception that Condi seemed to have a huge, inexplicable crush on W that blinded large areas of her judgment.

Posted by: zeitgeist on May 3, 2011 at 2:21 PM | PERMALINK

Found it!

"I stand by this man. I stand by this man because he stands for things. Not only for things, he stands on things. Things like aircraft carriers, and rubble, and recently flooded city squares. And that sends a strong message: that no matter what happens to America, she will always rebound—with the most powerfully staged photo ops in the world."
-Stephen Colbert at the 2006 White House Correspondents' Association Dinner

Posted by: FiveFeetHighNRisin' on May 3, 2011 at 2:21 PM | PERMALINK

Come on, give her some credit.

I for one had no idea that Bush had planned this all along with Hari Seldonesque accuracy, to royally screw up everything he laid his little hands on during his term in office, only to have some black guy turn everything into a success story after he left office.

Clearly Bush deserves all the credit, but let's save some for Condi as well. It's only fair.

Posted by: Danny on May 3, 2011 at 2:24 PM | PERMALINK

She must have forgotten his awe inspiring "go shopping" speech.

Posted by: DAY on May 3, 2011 at 2:25 PM | PERMALINK

...but, she plays the piano and ice skates...

Posted by: SaintZak on May 3, 2011 at 2:26 PM | PERMALINK

The Bushies' desperate attempts to rewrite history is meant to forestall the inevitable reckoning for the buffoons in that administration. If Obama can get a second term, the republican grip on Washington will start to wane, and the likelihood of a relatively objective review of the Bush years becomes more likely.

There is a reason the Bushies went right for the Gitmo/torture validation. The Bushies know history won't be kind to them on that front. All sorts of people, including doctors, covered up brutal torture(far worse than waterboarding); and once it comes out, they will be pariahs. So they futilely attempt to justify the torture as a means to an end(OBL capture/kill).

Ultimately, I don't think it works. Truth will out.

Posted by: Holmes on May 3, 2011 at 2:28 PM | PERMALINK

Rice is stupid enough not only to say something like this, but also to believe it.

Posted by: DJ on May 3, 2011 at 2:29 PM | PERMALINK

One performance with a megaphone beats out the Declaration of Independence, ratification of the Constitution, everything in Lincoln's presidency, Pearl Harbor, D-Day, JFK resolving the Cuban missile crisis peacefully, the Moon landing, the fall of the Berlin Wall, etc... This overdone hero worship recalls when Condi, referring to G.W. Bush, started a sentence with "As I was telling my husb�"?

http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/people/columns/intelligencer/n_10245/

Posted by: Bob G on May 3, 2011 at 2:29 PM | PERMALINK

What - his "Mission Accomplished" speech wasn't more important?

Posted by: low-tech cyclist on May 3, 2011 at 2:30 PM | PERMALINK

"...Bush badly handled the conflict in Afghanistan; Bush's handling of the war in Iraq was a fiasco for the ages; the Bush administration's track record on counter-terrorism was genuinely awful; and Bush downplayed the significance of bin Laden for most of his two terms."

This is all true...in our reality. In their reality,which they created out of whole cloth (and lies and deception) George W Bush was the best president ever. Any evidence to the contrary goes into the dust bin and gets burned, therefore doesn't exist anymore

Posted by: atlliberal on May 3, 2011 at 2:31 PM | PERMALINK

@Holmes

This. This exactly. You, sir, are right on the money, and a most excellent gentleman.

This sickening sales pitch is about trying to wring some small amount of victory from the jaws of their big defeat. Let's not allow them that. Four more years.

Posted by: Danny on May 3, 2011 at 2:32 PM | PERMALINK

"I can hear you! I can hear you! The rest of the world hears you! And the people -- and the people who knocked these buildings down will hear all of us soon!"

And by soon, Dubya meant nearly 10 years later, when a Democrat is running the show.

Posted by: Holmes on May 3, 2011 at 2:32 PM | PERMALINK

again, it was George W. Bush that chose to ignore direct intelligence reports that Bin Laden was planning the exact type of attack that occurred. I believe his exact words were "There, you've covered your ass" when informed Bin Laden was planning the attack.
And if my memory isn't wrong, it was one Condi Rice that revealed that particular PDB in congressional testimony. She didn't do a damned thing to stop 9/11 either.

Posted by: T2 on May 3, 2011 at 2:32 PM | PERMALINK

For some reason all I can think about is when Michelle Obama misspoke and said that her husband's nomination was, "the first time in my adult life I am proud of my country..."

Didn't that get a little bit of attention?

Too bad Rice is a Republican.

We'd never hear the end of it if a Demo had said the same thing about and Obama speech being "the most important moment maybe in American history".

Posted by: Mitch on May 3, 2011 at 2:34 PM | PERMALINK

What a joke! The most important moment in American history was when Rumsfeld said, "This war might take six weeks or six months, but it will not take six years." (referring to the Iraq war).

Posted by: Gridlock on May 3, 2011 at 2:35 PM | PERMALINK

We should all repeat this to any douchebag repug who has the audacity to give Bush/ Cheney credit for the death of Bin Laden- In 2001 Bin Laden was trapped at Tora Bora in Afganistan And Fact Bush/ Cheney let him escape. PERIOD

Posted by: Chris on May 3, 2011 at 2:35 PM | PERMALINK

Correction!!!
Rumsfeld actually said, "It could last six days, six weeks. I doubt six months," he said, speaking at the American air base at Aviano, in northern Italy.

Posted by: Gridlock on May 3, 2011 at 2:37 PM | PERMALINK

Exactly what T2 said -- let's see, almost exactly a month before (when those towers were still standing and the nearly 3,000 people who were lost were still ALIVE) -- Dubya decided that his briefing meeting and the information within that detailed AQ's desire to hit the US (maybe with hijacked PLANES) was too boring.

A month later he stands on the rubble with his bullhorn and 8 years later he saunters out of office after accomplishing nothing having to do with that attack.

Jesus, Condi -- what a twit you are.

Posted by: JCT on May 3, 2011 at 2:39 PM | PERMALINK

Remember, in the Bush/Cheney administration, Condoleezza Rice was considered one of the least ridiculous figures.

In an altered state of mind or in an alternate reality or in some wierd determination of relativity, perhaps this statement has some value!

In the real world, the only not ridiculous figure was what the heck was the pet's name?

Posted by: SadOldVet on May 3, 2011 at 2:41 PM | PERMALINK

You have got to be kidding me.

A guy mimicking a leader by yelling through a bullhorn DAYS after the event is more important the methodical and successful hunt for OBL by Obama?

A reminder comes to us from Think Progress: " As Lt. Col. Reid Sawyer, the director of the Combating Terrorism Center at West Point, told NPR yesterday, “if bin Laden had been killed in Afghanistan eight years ago in the caves of Tora Bora, al-Qaida might well have died with him. Now the organization is diversified enough it could weather bin Laden’s death — and hardly miss a beat.”

Moreover, as Rumsfeld himself acknowledged, Bush’s extra-legal torture and rendition policies did not help capture Bin Laden. Enhanced interrogation techniques did not work. Bush ordered one final push to capture Bin laden shortly before he left office, but this effort too was unsuccessful."

Posted by: jjm on May 3, 2011 at 2:45 PM | PERMALINK

I'm curious...how often did Condi and Dubya and the gang give Bill Clinton credit for identifying bin-Laden as the greatest enemy our nation faced back in the late '90s? How often was he invited to take credit for going after bin-Laden? How many times did they point out Clinton actually came closer to killing bin-Laden than Bush ever did (and did so in the fact of threats of impeachment from House Republicans, who accused him of just playing "Wag the Dog" when he'd talk about bin-Laden?...
Oh, that's right! They didn't credit Clinton with prescient knowledge of how dangerous bin-Laden was. Quite the opposite! To this day, they say he failed to kill bin-Laden! So pardon me if I point out it was Dubya and his gang who waltzed around for six years telling us they really didn't care if they caught bin-Laden, even after the 9/11 attacks!

Posted by: Zoomie on May 3, 2011 at 2:45 PM | PERMALINK

Typical Bushies. Still pushing television visuals and inspiring depictions of leadership ... instead of actual leadership.

Ten years and upteen screw ups and failures of actual leadership later, and the Bush people are STILL telling us that the visual of Bush with a bullhorn on a pile of debris is a critical event in the life of the nation. Maybe even the most critical ever!

Pathetic.

Posted by: Bokonon on May 3, 2011 at 2:48 PM | PERMALINK

Wasn't that the clarion call where he told us to keep shopping?

Posted by: g on May 3, 2011 at 2:50 PM | PERMALINK

Condi was blinded by the thrill of seeing her husband, oops, boss up there with the bullhorn.

Posted by: RollaMO on May 3, 2011 at 2:50 PM | PERMALINK

Thanx Zoomie...my thought exactly. Where was BILL when Bush was standing on the rubble? Where was HILLARY for that matter? SHE was a senator from NY! What also struck me on THESE comments was when Obama gives an important speech on let's say RACE, then it's 'just a speech'...But Bush? It's a 'defining moment'...more Condi on The Daily Rundown today...amazing...

Posted by: SYSPROG on May 3, 2011 at 2:52 PM | PERMALINK

Bush - sends US combat troops into Iraq - Obama gets them out
Bush - can't find Bin Laden - Obama finds him
Bush - gets us into a terrible Recession - Obama brings us out

Posted by: T2 on May 3, 2011 at 2:53 PM | PERMALINK

I guess it's true - you never do forget your first crush. You only forget every awful thing your first crush ever did. It's just that, usually, those awful things you first crush does, he does to YOU, not the whole country. Or, world.

Posted by: slappy magoo on May 3, 2011 at 2:53 PM | PERMALINK

Afghanistan? .. Iraq?

I would really like to hear Condi's definition of 'success'.

Posted by: Ken on May 3, 2011 at 2:54 PM | PERMALINK

It's not "almost comical." It's UNBELIEVABLY comical.

It also perfectly encapsulates the Bush administration's conception of politics -- and especially the president's role in politics -- as little more than theater. Calling a fucking shout into a bullhorn more important than the blood spilled in defense of our country is incredibly insulting and incredibly stupid. Shit, it wasn't even the most important thing that happened that day. Does Condi Rice really, really think the world would be a worse place if George Bush didn't ad lib into a goddamn bullhorn? This is quite possibly the dumbest fucking thing ever uttered by a Secretary of State in American history.

Posted by: the_dan on May 3, 2011 at 2:58 PM | PERMALINK

it's the gop's whole cargo cult belief that speechifying matters more that doing some actual work...

in the real word "actions speak louder than words."

"the most important moment maybe in American history" how quickly they forget that whole 7/4/1776 stuff...

Posted by: dj spellchecka on May 3, 2011 at 3:05 PM | PERMALINK

Rice's remark is right up there with the really, really creepy remark by either Junior or Dick (I forget now) that the "highlight" of the administration was 9/11, or words to that effect.

I've made this comment before here, and to again note that I'm not implying any kind of conspiracy -- I think Gore Vidal was right when he said they're too dumb -- but it's always struck me that no one in the Bush Jr. administration has ever expressed any sort of regret that the attack occurred. Saying "we regret it happened" doesn't imply blame...though I DO blame them for apparently being too dumb to figure out that something was up. Rice herself said in open testimony before the 9/11 Commission (paraphrasing here) that the intelligence implied something big was afoot, they just didn't know where, when, and what.

If I'd been questioning my follow up would have been, "well, what did you do to try to find out?"

Posted by: MichaelF on May 3, 2011 at 3:05 PM | PERMALINK

Most important moment in American History. "All we have to fear is fear itself." "Four Score and seven years ago." "One small step for a man, one giant leap for mankind." "December 7, 1941, a day that will live in infamy." etc.etc.etc.

Now what memorable line comes from Condi's most important moment in American History?

That is nothing comparible to the thousands of important things Americans have done which first happened in a singualr moment. The telephone, ("Watson come here I want you."), Kittyhawk 1903, the television, the internet, the two vaccines for polio, hundreds of other medical breakthroughs, the atomic bomb ("Now I am become deathm, the distroyer of worlds,") etc. etc. etc.

The audience of Fox News eat Condi's idiocy up. My question is why did Stanford. Bush's moment on the rubble doesn't even make the top thousand most important moments in American history.

Posted by: Ron Byers on May 3, 2011 at 3:06 PM | PERMALINK

I think this speaks loudly of the contempt that the Bushies had - and continue to have - for the collective intelligence of the American people.

They are STILL pissing on our leg, and then intoning from the TV screen - with the greatest of import and seriousness - that it is raining.

They are shameless. These spin tactics have always worked well for them - except for those instances when reality turned toxic, and came crashing in on the nation, and couldn't be denied or spun any longer. So why should they stop now, in retirement? All they need is to sustain their base, and confuse enough people in the middle. And they hope to ultimately win the battle for history with this B.S.

Posted by: Bokonon on May 3, 2011 at 3:08 PM | PERMALINK

Hi - I often read but rarely post. However, I believe Steve has issued a challenge: List several hundred more important events. I'll start (with the obvious):

1. The declaration of independence
2. The instigation and suppression of Shay's Rebellion
3. The development and ratification of the US constitution
4. The adoption of the Bill or Rights
5. The foundation of the US Capitol in Washington D.C.
6. The official ending of the US slave trade
7. The battle of Yorktown
8. The 1812 War with Britain
9. The writing of the national anthem
10. George Washington's refusal to run for a third presidential term of office

...

and I'm putting in a place-holder for:
300. The birth, in 1961, in Hawaii, of Barack Hussein Obama

Posted by: Kber on May 3, 2011 at 3:08 PM | PERMALINK

Thanks Danny for the Hari Seldon reference, but if Bush could have foreseen the consequences of his actions that well, I like to think he would have stayed drunk.

Posted by: bob on May 3, 2011 at 3:09 PM | PERMALINK

One of the problems with the widespread incompetence of the last admin is that none of these people are otherwise employable. Their sole purpose and means of income is in defending their past. Pathetic.

Posted by: Mark on May 3, 2011 at 3:09 PM | PERMALINK

Geo. W. Bush, isn't he the one that served as the warm up rider for Paul Revere's horse, prior to the famous ride. Condi forgot to menton this.

Posted by: Ted76 on May 3, 2011 at 3:09 PM | PERMALINK

"Fox News' Brian Kilmeade argued that it would be "nice" for President Obama to invite George W. Bush to join him at Ground Zero on Thursday."

But there aren't any rubble piles for him to stand on.

Posted by: bob h on May 3, 2011 at 3:13 PM | PERMALINK

Silly woman.

Posted by: Joe Friday on May 3, 2011 at 3:16 PM | PERMALINK

...Bush badly mishandled the conflict in Afghanistan.

Fixed.

Posted by: Screamin' Demon on May 3, 2011 at 3:21 PM | PERMALINK

Condoleeza Rice was and is a despicable liar.

Posted by: SecularAnimist on May 3, 2011 at 3:24 PM | PERMALINK

My recollection is that Tony Blair came over soon after 9/11 and made the speeches that you'd expect of the President. Articulate ones, at that.

Posted by: Dave Martin on May 3, 2011 at 3:25 PM | PERMALINK

She was one of the most incompetent WH staffers in memory. The day she left was one of the most important in American History.

Posted by: hornblower on May 3, 2011 at 3:29 PM | PERMALINK

If we're talking about specific moments in history rather than multi-year conflicts or political movements, then let's include LBJ's signing of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965. It cost the Democrats the Deep South for pretty much forever, but earned him a place in history as the president who dismantled what was left of Jim Crow.

Posted by: Death Panel Truck on May 3, 2011 at 3:30 PM | PERMALINK

Um, Condi, more important than passage of the 13th Amendment?

Posted by: AK Liberal on May 3, 2011 at 3:32 PM | PERMALINK

Perhaps Kinda-sleeza Rice meant that Bush's bullhorn speech was a clarion-call to all republicans to use the 9/11 attacks to partisan advantage -just as he used an attack by an organization with no connection to Iraq whatsoever to invade said country...

Posted by: Brian on May 3, 2011 at 3:36 PM | PERMALINK

As long as we're getting outraged (and we should be) let's not forget that the whole 911 thing was made possible by GWB when he ignored multiple warnings about Bin Ladin including the the infamous August 6th daily briefing entitled "Bin Ladin Determined to Strike in US."

So, let us review: 1) Bush ignores warnings that Bin Ladin was going to attack, 2) Bin Laden does attack killing about 2,700 people in New York, then 3) Bush gets a huge political boost by making a speech on the rubble (which surely included numerous dead bodies of Bin Ladin's victims)that he help create by his own negligence and 4) successfully ran for reelection BASED ON HIS NATIONAL SECURITY CREDENTIALS.

Now that's what I call managing your message.

Speaking of Rice and 911; as usual The Onion got it right.

http://www.theonion.com/articles/sept-11-could-not-have-been-prevented-without-accr,11070/

Posted by: Hieronymus The Troll Braintree on May 3, 2011 at 3:38 PM | PERMALINK

Speaking of clueless people, Palin gave a speech thanking Bush today, but never once mentioning President Obama.

Posted by: Holmes on May 3, 2011 at 3:38 PM | PERMALINK

Oh, if only we'd had Bush and his bullhorn at Midway--we might have shortened WWII by a couple of years!

Posted by: rea on May 3, 2011 at 3:42 PM | PERMALINK

Hey, you can't blame her for sticking up for her husband. Er, the former president, I mean.

Posted by: kc on May 3, 2011 at 3:44 PM | PERMALINK

After 9/11 Condi said no one could have imagined planes flown into buildings, although that scenario was raised in a report she received when she took office. Was she lying or merely incompetent? In citing the bullhorn moment and hyping its significance, she seems to suggest she is both.

Posted by: Frank on May 3, 2011 at 3:55 PM | PERMALINK

Rice showed up on the Today Show this morning as well. First question out of the box from Matt Lauer was about the controversy regarding whether or not the original intelligence on bin Laden's courier (the piece that eventually led to the discovery of his location) was the result of torture. Rice totally ignored the question and instead talked very generally about what a great job both the Bush and Obama administrations did in running bin Laden to ground. Unfortunately, Lauer did not follow up.

Rice was a total failure as National Security Advisor, and let her personal loyalty to GWB prevail in keeping silent in the face of obviously unlawful and immoral interrogation practices, as well as clearly unconstitutional extensions of Presidential power. She continues to be a Bush apologist, trying to grab credit for GWB for this latest achievement. She has absolutely no credibility, as far as I am concerned.

Posted by: DRF on May 3, 2011 at 3:58 PM | PERMALINK

Battle of Lexington?

Posted by: smintheus on May 3, 2011 at 4:01 PM | PERMALINK

Brought to you by the same people who believe the Soviet Union was destroyed by Reagan saying, "Tear down this wall."

Posted by: vickijean on May 3, 2011 at 4:09 PM | PERMALINK

OK, if we're playing that game, the most important moment in American history was George H.W. Bush being impressed with a supermarket checkout scanner. Because that led to the election of Clinton, which led to the Monica Lewinsky affair, which led to Clinton's VP being unable to best Dubya Bush in Florida, which led to the bullhorn speech, etc.

Posted by: FlipYrWhig on May 3, 2011 at 4:25 PM | PERMALINK

You know, that moment when Bush yelled through the bullhorn "The people who knocked these buildings down will hear all of us soon!" has always symbolized, to me, the stupidity of Bush. The people that knocked the buildings down were in ashes at the bottom of the pile of rubble. They will never hear anything.

Posted by: charlie don't surf on May 3, 2011 at 4:28 PM | PERMALINK

Funny, I just recall a petulant, whiny little man shouting a peevish boast through a bullhorn, self-consciously acting the way he thought a leader should act, but obviously not being one himself.

America would have united behind a prune danish at that point - it was our reaction to the tragedy that brought us together, not Bush's bravado.

It was not only NOT the most important moment in American history, it wasn't even the most inspiring speech in American history. "Nothing to fear but fear itself" anyone? Sheesh, even St. Ronnie's "tear down this wall" was more powerful, even it if didn't do all that ending-the-Cold-War nonsense the hagiographers say.

I thought Condi had a job - why is she auditioning for brass polisher at the W library?

Posted by: biggerbox on May 3, 2011 at 4:28 PM | PERMALINK

Frank,

After 9/11 Condi said no one could have imagined planes flown into buildings, although that scenario was raised in a report she received when she took office.

Just hours after the 9/11 attacks, Candi stated during a press conference:

"I don't think anybody could have predicted that these people would take an airplane and slam it into the World Trade Center ... that they would try to use ... a hijacked airplane as a missile.

EXCEPT:

A) During the transition, according to protocol, every out-going member of the Clinton cabinet briefed every corresponding incoming member of the Bush cabinet, and then breaking with protocol, President Clinton met with Candi to EMPHASIZE the threat of al-Qaeda and their intention to utilize hijacked commercial airliners as weapons.

B) The Bushies ordered, for the first time in history, SAM batteries deployed around the site of a G8 Summit in Genoa, Italy in late July 2001, less than 60 days prior to 9/11, as a deterrent to the potential threat by al-Qaeda to hijack commercial airliners and crash them into American assets.


Posted by: Joe Friday on May 3, 2011 at 4:30 PM | PERMALINK

Why would Obama invite Bush? Bush said himself he didn't give Bin Laden a whole lot of thought.

Posted by: Gus on May 3, 2011 at 5:21 PM | PERMALINK

Condi was right. "I can hear you! I can hear you! The rest of the world hears you! And the people -- and the people who knocked these buildings down will hear all of us soon!" -- and thus began the fall of the American Empire.

Posted by: jon b on May 3, 2011 at 5:41 PM | PERMALINK

Like most right-wingers, Rice is so far gone on the "right wing authoritarian" scale that she has serious cognitive impairment.

She, in particular, epitomizes the "RWA follower" to an alarming degree.

Read Robert Altemeyer's work to see just how scary those folks really are.

Posted by: worcestergirl on May 3, 2011 at 6:10 PM | PERMALINK

What I most remember is that only six months after making the "dead or alive" pledge, Bush said he really didn't give all that much thought to Osama bin Laden; he wasn't a priority. And that 5 years after the "dead or alive" pledge, Bush disbanded the bin Laden intelligence unit which had been in place before he took office.

So I guess what I most remember about the photo-op with the bullhorn is that Bush was standing on the graves of thousands who died in at least some part due to his negligence, and shouting lies through a bullhorn. Suffice to say, I wouldn't rank that as one of our proudest moments.

Posted by: Jennifer on May 3, 2011 at 6:46 PM | PERMALINK

On 911 Condi was all set to deliver a major foreign policy speech about how to deal with the major foreign threat facing the U.S.: i.e. how we needed to build star wars to protect us from ICBM's. Interestingly enough the speach was cancelled. Non-governmental terrorist threats were not even on the Bushies' radar. Remember when Bush was warned: "Osama bin Laden determined to strike in U.S."? Bush told the security advisor that delivered this message: "Okay, you've covered your ass" and promptly went on vacation.

Posted by: J. Frank Parnell on May 3, 2011 at 7:12 PM | PERMALINK

To call her a "conservative" is a huge disservice to that word.

She and all of them are radicals.

And her words prove that she's not even among the smart radicals.

And she was never among the least venal of them.

Posted by: Suzan on May 3, 2011 at 7:17 PM | PERMALINK

Shorter Condi: the things that Bush yelled through that bullhorn that day traveled around the world and killed Osama Bin Laden ten years later.

Nothing that happened in between mattered. Because that is when The Great Leader expressed his Will. And the Will later became so. All bow down.

I am actually not joking. This is pretty close to what many partisan Republicans feel. Witness Sarah Palin's speech to Colorado Christian University yesterday in which she credited Bush, and didn't mention Obama once (to rapturous applause).

Posted by: Bokonon on May 3, 2011 at 7:18 PM | PERMALINK




 

 

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