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Lawrence Wright


By Markos Kounalakis and Peter Laufer


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Immediately after 9/11, the New Yorker writer Lawrence Wright e-mailed his editor, David Remnick, and said, “Put me to work.” He wasn’t kidding. Wright spent the next five years traveling to remote corners of the world in an ambitious attempt to explain the intellectual and political origins of al-Qaeda. He interviewed more than 600 people, including members of Osama bin Laden’s family. The eventual result was a book called The Looming Tower: Al-Qaeda and the Road to 9/11, which was nominated for a National Book Award. But after years of mixing with jihadists and being eavesdropped on by the FBI, Wright felt he still had more to say. Last year, he converted his personal experiences into My Trip to Al-Qaeda, a one-man stage performance. The Washington Monthly’s Peter Laufer and Markos Kounalakis spoke to Wright about the play, which he performed at New York’s Culture Project in March.

Subscribe Online & Save 33%WM: Tell us about how you’ve made this unusual transition from journalist to the stage.

LW: It’s a little odd. I’m not a character in my book—it’s not a personal account at all. But I had a lot of experiences and emotions that I was still dealing with, and this seemed like an interesting outlet for them.

WM: And those thoughts are based on interviews with some of the less savory characters in our world situation.

LW: People were always asking me, “What’s it like to talk to these guys? You’ve met people in al-Qaeda, you’ve talked to bin Laden’s family.” And I hadn’t really thought about what it was like. I’d been so buried in the work for five years I hadn’t reflected about the feelings I had experienced. I was trying to be an impartial reporter, but there were times that I was very inflamed, and I hadn’t really dealt with those things personally.

WM: So, you walk into the home of a family member of bin Laden’s and they invite you in, you sit down, you have tea? What’s the environment in a room like that?

LW: The members of the bin Laden family that I met were really gracious to me. I had become rather close to his brother-in-law, Jamal Khalifa, who unfortunately was murdered last month in Madagascar. He was a very interesting guy. There are a lot of accusations about his involvement in al-Qaeda. I don’t think he was involved. But he was extremely helpful and insightful in guiding me to understanding the mindset behind this kind of radicalism.

WM: How does this material manifest itself on the stage?

LW: When I started this, the only person I knew who had done a one-man show before was Calvin Trillin, at the New Yorker. I asked him for advice, and he said, “Use props!” So I have a number of film clips. I have pieces of interviews with some of my subjects, so you can hear Jamal Khalifa and others talking to me, to help the audience understand the nature of these people.

WM: I imagine that the U.S. government also took an interest in what you were doing. What was that like?

LW: It was infuriating. The thing that’s so demoralizing about it is how incompetent the government was in its surveillance of me. Instead of surveilling me, they thought they were surveilling my daughter, who was a college student at the time. They were monitoring these calls that were going from my number to a number in London belonging to a solicitor who represented several of the jihadis that I had been interviewing—and the calls were mainly her telling me, “Please don’t talk to my clients.”

WM: And they came knocking on your door?

LW: Yeah.

WM: What happened?

LW: Well, it was an FBI agent and a bureaucrat for the Food and Drug Administration who happened to be a member of the joint terrorism task force in Austin, Texas—where, of course, terror is an everyday concern. They were going to ask me about these calls to London. I thought they were coming for advice. I had spoken to the local FBI, since I had written about al-Qaeda and I had written a movie, The Siege. They had wanted some counsel. I am always helpful to people who really want to know something about this movement, so I thought that’s what these guys were there for. But no—they were investigating me. So I started asking my own questions, like, “How did you know about these calls?” “What’s wrong with talking to a lawyer?” “How did you get [my daughter’s] name?”

WM: What kind of responses did you get?

LW: At that point, they shut their briefcases and left.

   

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Markos Kounalakis, the president of the Washington Monthly, and author Peter Laufer, the magazine’s broadcast editor, host the weekly program Washington Monthly on the Radio, from which this interview was excerpted. The show can be heard on our flagship station, Progressive Talk 1260 AM in Washington, D.C. For a list of other stations or to listen online, visit www.washingtonmonthly.com.

 
 
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