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October 03, 2012 10:10 PM Debate Live Blog IV: Health Care

By Ed Kilgore

* Mitt’s indictment of Obamacare inexplicably omits slavery of individual mandate.

* BHO on Obamacare: “Insurance companies can’t jerk you around.” I like that one.

* Mitt’s excitement at memorizing Romneycare rap drawing him into really dangerous exposure of one of his major weaknesses. His mendacity about Dem partisanship on health care pretty breathtaking.

* Very labored BHO description of IPAB.

* Mitt just flat out lying about pre-existing conditions in his “plan.”

* Somewhere, Sarah Palin is screaming DEATH PANELS! DEATH PANELS!

* BHO really going heavily into “vagueness” theme.

* Conservative heads explode anew at Mitt the Reasonable Bipartisan.

* Afraid I know too much about health care policy to view Mitt’s rap as anything other than a pack of lies. Have no idea how it’s coming across to people who haven’t been marinated in health care debates.

Ed Kilgore is a contributing writer to the Washington Monthly. He is managing editor for The Democratic Strategist and a senior fellow at the Progressive Policy Institute. Find him on Twitter: @ed_kilgore.

Comments

  • POed Lib on October 03, 2012 10:20 PM:

    Jeezus, Romney just called for the destruction of the public school system. Money following student - this is the end of the public school system.

  • T2 on October 03, 2012 10:24 PM:

    It's great if you can spend two months prepping for a debate. But Obama has a country to run and it shows tonite. This is the debate Romney has to win....but there are two more.

  • Hue and Cry on October 03, 2012 10:25 PM:

    I went to Mitt's websites and unable to find his specificed plans for his so-called healthcare program. He makes it up as he goes along and the rest comes from what his handlers told him.

  • Blue Girl on October 03, 2012 10:34 PM:

    Off topic, but the first big bankster is about to go down. A warrant has been issued for Jamie Dimon's arrest.

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  • coralsea on October 03, 2012 10:35 PM:

    I did not like Mendacious Mitt before tonight. I absolutely DESPISE the cretinous motherfucker now.

    At the very least, thanks for reinforcing my lifelong belief that mormons suck ass. I'm sure baby jebus is very proud of his lying candidate.

  • John on October 03, 2012 10:36 PM:

    Romney seems pretty snappy with a lot of details, but short on details. Kind of like a Christmas wish list. He keeps promising things but not saying how to provide them.

    Romney seemed a little caffeinated at times, kind of scary. Obama seemed a little quiet.

  • pea on October 03, 2012 10:36 PM:

    Yeah, R: "making schools more 'competitive' = success." No, making them effective = success. R just lies, smiles, lays eggs, lies more and more and more and more and more. If anyone thinks he really cares for little brown kids in public schools (or their parents), guess again. He's going to "restore O's cuts to medicare" so he can waste the money on the insurance companies. Lehrer should retire. I hate debates but forced myself to watch this one (sorta). If only R's nose would truly grow with each lie. Can't take it. thank god it's over. Rachel Maddow: "we saw this debate format die a painful death tonight" -- or something like that. Yeah, let's just cancel the other debates, vote tomorrow and get the pain over with!!!! And don't bother to call Congress back. Let them stay home til the new one begins. Oh yea, and Steve Schmidt says Romney did so well. Maybe for his side. Not for this Dem. I just can't take it!!!

  • 4jkb4ia on October 03, 2012 10:38 PM:

    I remember enough from the debate over ACA that I thought Obama won this segment really decisively and Romney never recovered. For the first half Romney was holding his own enough that I wanted to look at where his facts were coming from. I still have no idea where the 22 million people who are going to lose their insurance is coming from.

  • John Sully on October 03, 2012 10:46 PM:

    Unfortunately I'm pretty well steeped in health care issues, so it came across as a pack of lies. But most of what RMoney said tonight on any issue was a pack of lies or an evasion of the question.

  • Thisby on October 04, 2012 4:11 AM:

    I, too, am pretty well steeped in healthcare issues, and during this segment it was all I could do to stop myself from yelling and throwing things at the liar Romney, thereby waking up my husband (who had fallen asleep in his chair some 20 minutes earlier). Romney wavered between contradicting his very well-known position(s) and just telling outright lies. Too much detail to go into tonight... but I do think Romney is not stupid about healthcare and he really knows he's lying, or at least "prevaricating," in most of his responses.

    On another note, I think Jim Lehrer owns the biggest failure of the evening. Not because he is old and "past it," but because he is old and still adheres to the premise that debates work because gentlemen follow the rules laid down. If one participant proves himself over and over to be no gentleman, as Romney did from the get-go, the whole thing falls apart. I suggest in future we retire Mr. Lehrer and hire, oh, I don't know... Simon Cowell?

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