Political Animal


October 05, 2012 1:57 PM Lunch Buffet

By Ed Kilgore

Jobs report got day off to a quick start, but now political discourse degenerating fast thanks to BLS Truthers. Just amazing. But here are some other mid-day news bites:

* Big Bird arrives on campaign trail even faster than I’d guessed.

* Really dumb Sally Quinn column saying Romney “won the God vote” by mentioning the Almighty in the debate.

* Even Bush administration lawyer denounces reported plan for Romney to come out in favor of return to torture.

* Antonin Scalia warms up for Supreme Court term with speech saying decisions on abortion (overturning Roe, of course!) and same-sex marriage (denying constitutional protection, of course!) are “no-brainers.”

* As Abby Rapoport notes at TAP, conservative “voter fraud” enthusiasts strangely silent about charges of registration fraud against firm hired by GOP op to work in five battleground states.

And in non-political news:

* Baseball post-season begins today in Atlanta (Go Braves!) and Arlington TX.

Back after I eat the Five Guys hot dog my wife brought me back from a business trip.

Ed Kilgore is a contributing writer to the Washington Monthly. He is managing editor for The Democratic Strategist and a senior fellow at the Progressive Policy Institute. Find him on Twitter: @ed_kilgore.


  • Lev @ LibraryGrape.com on October 05, 2012 2:13 PM:

    Erm, Goldsmith was the one who stopped torture within the Bush Administration by having the DOJ withdraw the Bybee memo. This isn't a flip.

  • Gandalf on October 05, 2012 2:19 PM:

    How on earth can you use statistics on job numbers to blast the president for four years then when the numbers arn't to your liking you just say they're not accurate. Those people are completely deranged.

  • SadOldVet on October 05, 2012 2:30 PM:

    F... Off Kilgore! Go Cardinals!!!

  • Hue and Cry on October 05, 2012 2:31 PM:

    Mitt Romney may have cheated in the debate--CBS


    "...The rules of the presidential debates are clear about not bringing outside notes and presidents and aspirants have followed the rule for decades.

    Video of the first eleven seconds of the debate available on YouTube shows Mitt Romney reaching into his pocket at the moment he is out of view of those in front of him, he used the lectern as a shield, and removing what appears to be folded papers from his pocket.

    We see this because the camera that was broadcasting was behind Romney. Those in the audience and the moderator may have been shielded from his sleight of hand, but not the viewers.

    Romney then proceeds to unfold the item in front of him.

    For those curious if it could have been some else, later video sheds some light on what Romney retrieves from his lectern.

    After the Romney and Obama families chat post-debate the President walks off stage, leaving his notes behind for an aide, no doubt.

    But not so for Romney. The Presidential challenger goes back to his lectern to retrieve his items. It is clear that the only thing that Romney takes is paper. Not a handkerchief. Not a white flag. Nothing but paper.

    So the next question is: what is Mitt Romney’s explanation for the apparent cheating?..."

  • T2 on October 05, 2012 2:33 PM:

    you'd think that if Obama could actually rig the jobs reports he'd have done it a few months back, and dropped the rate down to 5%.

  • Arlington BigFish on October 05, 2012 2:36 PM:

    They don't have 5 Guys in CA? They're on practically every corner here in Northern Virginia.

  • Andy Hall on October 05, 2012 2:37 PM:

    "Baseball post-season begins today in Atlanta (Go Braves!) and Arlington TX."

    Fun Fact: The Houston Astros did so poorly this year they're not even allowed to buy *tickets* to the playoffs.

  • Davis X. Machina on October 05, 2012 2:45 PM:

    "Really dumb Sally Quinn column".

    Ooh. I am so changing the example on my Powerpoint slide on 'tautology'.

  • Mitch on October 05, 2012 2:52 PM:

    "The death penalty? Give me a break. It's easy. Abortion? Absolutely easy. Nobody ever thought the Constitution prevented restrictions on abortion. Homosexual sodomy? Come on. For 200 years, it was criminal in every state," Scalia said at the American Enterprise Institute.

    Scalia has proved that he has no business being on the Court. He has proven that he is not impartial, not guided solely by facts and evidence. I would say that such statements about prejudgements on possible cases is impeachment worthy. It's certainly not "good behavior" (quoting Article III, Section 1) for a member of the highest court in the land.

    Of course, since the House has to begin impeachment, it will never happen. He does deserve it, though.

    And, of course, there is the stupidity of his argument itself to consider. Why is it that nobody can ever ask these cretins if slavery should be allowed or whether women should be allowed to vote? After all, Scalia states that "Homosexual sodomy" was outlawed for 200 years as his justification for prejudging possible cases. Well, slavery went on for nearly 90 years under our Constitution and women could not vote for about a century and a half.

    I'll never understand why conservatives think that history should dictate the norms of the present. I suppose it is because they live under the delusion that there was some sort of past "Golden Age" which they are striving to bring about again. Personally, I read a lot of history and every single time period was worse in nearly every way than the one in which we live right now. Of course, I can't understand why people base their worldviews on primitive mythology from the Bronze Age, either. Or how hateful scum like Scalia manage to rule the world, while so many good, caring, open-minded people suffer. I suppose it's just another of life's little mysteries.

  • T2 on October 05, 2012 3:08 PM:

    truther thing on the jobs data add it to the list.....Climate Change is a conspiracy, Obama wasn't born in Hawaii, the Congressional Budget Office is a conspiracy....one wonders how the news media can continue to report this junk with a straight face and a "both sides do it" mentality.

  • Gene O'Grady on October 05, 2012 3:12 PM:

    Didn't Sally Quinn lose the God vote by sleeping with her married boss?

  • Mitch on October 05, 2012 3:32 PM:


    What confuses me the most about all of these conspiracy theories is this:

    Don't the people who believe in these oddball massive conspiracies almost always believe that the government is useless and cannot do anything correctly? How can they possibly believe that intricate conspiracies, requiring thousands of participants across a wide range of fields and ran by "useless" government officials possibly hope to work?

    But, hey, nobody every accused Homo sapiens sapiens of being very sapient.

  • RepublicanPointOfView on October 05, 2012 4:24 PM:

    Big Bird deserves to be fired! The Corporation For Public Broadcasting receives an enormous $445 million a year in federal subsidies. We need to eliminate all unnecessary federal spending whether large or small.

    Besides that, the CPB funding is almost 10% of the subsidies and tax breaks that Exxon-Mobile receives each year. Take care of the needy and eliminate the greedy. Big Bird must go. Exxon must stay.

  • emjayay on October 05, 2012 4:25 PM:

    T2, you somehow forgot that when all the polls went against Romney after the Democratic convention after not budging after the Republican one, suddenly all the polls were obviously wrong. Either they all had a secret meeting, or they all changed their methodologies simultaneously or maybe all their computers broke at the same time, or something. Maybe a virus.

    I'm listening to NPR. At the end of The TakeAway the played a phone message from some woman who said the unemployment numbers were wrong or something. Then a few minutes later on All Things Considered they played an interview with some woman probably at a Romney rally who said she doesn't trust any stats she sees on TV. The interviewer pointed out that the BLS is insulated from politics and she said you can't put it past Democrats to skew anything. Why does NPR waste its air time with worthless garbage? Oh, so they can't be accused of being lefties.

  • alwaysiamcaesar on October 05, 2012 4:39 PM:

    Ths is a poser for Hue and Cry . Lets just say that your supposition is spot on , would it be fair to ask , "So what ?"

    I ask that because I am trying to get my head around how much structure notes could have presented to a curriculumn that is founded upon lie when opening mouth .

    Thank you , and guten abend

  • emjayay on October 05, 2012 4:46 PM:

    The original and reigning champion of recent denial of reality/conspiracy theories, from I think more the far far left than the far far right, is of course that the CIA or some other federal government conspiracy brought down the twin towers with a controlled demolition. In order to justify wars or something. And no Jews showed up for work because they were warned. Maybe Israel was involved. Etc.

    Or that based on his good Mormon life Mitt Romney is going to get his own planet after he dies.

  • SadOldVet on October 05, 2012 4:55 PM:

    Really dumb Sally Quinn column saying Romney “won the God vote” by mentioning the Almighty in the debate.

    Really dumb does not even start to describe this! Everyone knows that God does not have a valid voter ID and cannot vote.

  • Tired Liberal on October 05, 2012 8:22 PM:

    Every time I start feeling sympathy for the financial problems of the Washington Post I remember that they actually pay Sally Quinn and Jennifer Rubin to write for them.

  • cwolf on October 05, 2012 9:36 PM:

    * Antonin Scalia warms up for Supreme Court term with speech saying decisions on abortion (overturning Roe, of course!) and same-sex marriage (denying constitutional protection, of course!) are “no-brainers.”

    As a brainless twit, Scalia is unusually qualified to mull over "No-Brainers"

  • FreakyBeaky on October 06, 2012 8:39 PM:

    Isn't the phrase "really dumb Sally Quinn column" redundant?

  • diekkinadot on October 28, 2012 3:11 AM:

    I in some cases get vague solutions like 'I need to get bigger' or 'I desire to obtain far more muscle'