Political Animal


October 23, 2012 1:48 PM Lunch Buffet

By Ed Kilgore

So in what’s already another slow news day (unless you enjoy endless post-debate spin), the political world has ground to a halt in anticipation of the daily release of the Gallup Tracking Poll, which is late for some reason. But here are some other mid-day Lite Treats:

* This headline for a Ron Fournier piece, which accurately reflects the CW, is the kind of thing that can make you crazy: “Obama Wins Third Debate but Romney Wins Debate Season.” Did you know there was a “debate season?” Somehow missed that in the past.

* Lotta mumbling and entrail-reading about Obama’s statement that planned spending sequestration “will not happen.”

* In follow-up to debates, Romney campaign clarifies that “World Court” will be asked to arrest Ahmedinejad for “inciting genocide.” Does World Court have marshals?

* At Ten Miles Square, Andrew Sabl suggests Obama will win Ohio after mastering rhetoric of “moderate isolationism.”

* At College Guide, Daniel Luzer reports colleges hosting debates each shelled out 3-5 million smackers in costs.

And in non-political news:

* In case you somehow missed it, Giants came back from 3-1 deficit in series to win NL pennant in Game Seven 9-0 laugher.

Back with the hour.

Ed Kilgore is a contributing writer to the Washington Monthly. He is managing editor for The Democratic Strategist and a senior fellow at the Progressive Policy Institute. Find him on Twitter: @ed_kilgore.


  • schtick on October 23, 2012 2:01 PM:

    I imagine the "World Court" will gladly hand over Ahmedinejad as soon as we hand over Bush and Cheney.

  • castanea on October 23, 2012 2:16 PM:

    The Fournier headline demonstrates just how ineffectual the rightwing is in America if it has to stick to common measures of success.

    "Our record in the debates might have been 1 win and 3 losses, but overall we are the champs!"

    What was the name of that Iraqi information minister? He'd have a home in today's GOP.

  • T2 on October 23, 2012 2:16 PM:

    I guess debates work like this: If you win one and lose two others, then you win the series even though the record is 1 for you, 2 for the opponent.

    The Right is going to an extreme, aided by the Media, to say that Obama's two solid wins plus Biden's crushing of Ryan do not equal the damage Romney did in the first debate. Of all four, Biden's win, I think, actually was what should have sealed it up for Obama. But no, the Right has decided Romney wins and that is that. I have a very strong feeling that if all three debates had gone like the last two, the Right would still say Romney won the series. Don't forget, they said Ryan beat Biden, too.
    Pointing out all the lies in the first Romney effort bounces off the Right like pebbles. To them, that's the key to winning.

  • BillFromPA on October 23, 2012 2:24 PM:

    Regarding "“Obama Wins Third Debate but Romney Wins Debate Season.”

    Before Obama sleep-walked through debate 1 the MSM were going to great lenghts to make this look like a tight race, the better to sell add time and newspapers. Remember the double digit leads in many battleground states? Makes for a snooze fest. Obama gave Mittens a little breathing room and the horse race was back on. Two Obama debate wins and a fine preformance by Biden and things start to revert to pre-debate conditions, MSM can't let that happen! I'll be ignoring these lemmings and won't be concerned unless Nate Silver's nubmers deteriorate, which are actually headed our way, even before last night. I suspect we'll all, except trolls, be breathing easier before the weekend arrives.

  • CharlieM on October 23, 2012 2:29 PM:

    You think Romney will also "require" (gotta love that CEO mentality) the World Court to arrest a certain film maker for inciting trouble after they arrest Ahmed for inciting same (assuming they get over their bout of ROFL)?

  • stormskies on October 23, 2012 3:10 PM:

    And within this fact lies the fact that the corporate media is actively complicit in creating one of the biggest con jobs on the American public that has ever occurred.

    Once again the corporate media is one of the greatest enemies our country actually has. The corporate agenda in the form of the props they use, called pundits, could not be more clear.

    Are we supposed to ‘believe’ that as of the first debate where Obama was pulling away before the debate from Romney in all the polls that the first debate was/ is the cause of the Romney surge ? Even though he lied 27 times in 38 minutes.

    And then Biden destroys Ryan, and Obama destroys Romney in the final two debates. Yet there is no ‘surge’ for them ? And that the ‘momentum’ is still with Romney based on those 38 minutes of the first debate ? And we have propaganda emanating from places like the Politico that pretends that Romney has won the ‘debate season’.

    This is a fucking monumental CON JOB being pulled of by the corporate media. And they do this deliberately of course in order to make people ‘believe’ that which is not true.

    And by doing this they then create an affect in which those that are still deciding who to vote for want to vote for a ‘winner’. Stupid people do such things. It’s called ‘behavioral contagion’ in psychological terms.

    The corporate media knows this thus they have created on of the biggest con jobs in our history. They are, indeed, one of the greatest enemies to our country.

  • Anonymous on October 23, 2012 3:22 PM:

    Fournier is one of 3 MSM reporters (ie, non-Fox) that all but appear to be RNC plants in the press corp (John Solomn and Mark Halpern the other 2). I cancelled my Atlantic sub. when their sister publication hired him. I think his history of nakedly shilling for the Republicans needs to be pointed out every time he writes something like this (by the way notice how similar this is to the week in 08 where McCain couldn't recall how many houses he had and about 50 other things went wrong for him only to have Halpern declare McCain that weeks winner?).

    Conclusion, Fournier is not a good faith actor.

  • Anonymous on October 23, 2012 3:31 PM:

    By the way, I would like to add Mike Allen to the other 3 reporters I list above.

  • kindness on October 23, 2012 3:37 PM:

    The Romney camp is saying that no matter what the score of the Giants-Cardinals game, the Cardinals have won the season.

  • James E. Powell on October 23, 2012 3:58 PM:


    The corporate press/media is owned by the ruling class. Is it any wonder that it constantly puts out messages and images that are favorable to the ruling class?

    It is a mistake to regard the corporate press/media as anything but the propagandists of the ruling class. Just as it is a mistake to regard the Republican Party as the party of the ruling class.

  • James E. Powell on October 23, 2012 4:28 PM:

    Uh, that should be "Just as it is a mistake to regard the Republican Party as anything but the party of the ruling class.

  • Mitch on October 23, 2012 5:03 PM:

    The worst of the media corporations are propagandists of the most vile sort. They are willing to do anything in the attempt to increase their profits. They certainly do not care about any consequences.

    The best of the media corporations are soulless weather vanes. They care about nothing but selling ad space. They will spin stories, over hype (or invent) controversies and generally cater to the worst in human nature in the pathetic hope of gaining more ratings and, thus sponsorship dollars.

    But this is what happens when monopolies are allowed to form. And, yes, having six corporations own 90% of all American media means that those six are monopolies. Monopolies are the very opposite of capitalism. They stifle innovation, they restrict the free flow of information and they prevent other organizations from having any chance to succeed. And that is if they are not actively attempting to misinform the public, subvert democracy and manipulate our political systems—which they are doing.

    These corporations have bastardized the concept of the Free Press. They are the greatest threat to our republic (not Al-Qaida, not Iran, not any other nation); they are our enemies, both foreign and domestic. They care nothing for accuracy, truth or journalism; they care about their wallets at best, and their power at worst. Our nation will be at risk until they are broken up.

  • grandpa john on October 23, 2012 7:27 PM:

    Once again the corporate media is one of the greatest enemies our country actually has. The corporate agenda in the form of the props they use, called pundits, could not be more clear.
    Amen brother, preach it, as I have been preaching it since 2000. When the US finally becomes a third world nation, the blame will be as much or more so on our so called "media" as it is on wingnut politicians