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November 30, 2012 9:30 AM Crazy People’s Rights

By Ed Kilgore

So Lindsay Graham and Rand Paul got into a bit of an argument on the floor of the U.S. Senate yesterday about the rights of detained terrorist suspects that got kind of colorful:

In case you can’t access the video, Graham suggested that Gitmo detainees were “crazy bastards” who didn’t deserve any rights. And Paul objected that a “crazy bastard” standard for denying people due process sent the Constitution down a pretty slippery slope.

As I happens, I’m with Paul on the merits, but in general find it pretty amusing whenever Republican senators debate other people’s sanity.

Ed Kilgore is a contributing writer to the Washington Monthly. He is managing editor for The Democratic Strategist and a senior fellow at the Progressive Policy Institute. Find him on Twitter: @ed_kilgore.

Comments

  • Ron Byers on November 30, 2012 9:50 AM:

    Paul wins that exchange.

    Let's be honest, Republicans are afraid that if the Gitmo prisoners ever made it to America the American legal system would discover just how little we have on many of the individuals we are holding and just how badly we treated our prisoners. A lot of former high ranking Republicans might be exposed as war criminals.

  • G.Kerby on November 30, 2012 9:55 AM:

    Like his father, Rand shows us that a stopped clock is right twice a day ...

  • c u n d gulag on November 30, 2012 9:57 AM:

    Normally, Rand is no one to talk about anyone else's sanity.

    I will, however, make an exception when he's talking about SC's Senator Blance DuGraham (R - 'That's French for, "White Cracker").

    Oh, those terrible Islamofascists and their Mohammed-inspired evil Super Powers - like the ability to disappear in a puff of smoke, or use their eyes to melt the walls of Super Max prisons, and escape.

    Those powers apparently, can only be contained by placing them on islands, and sorrounding them with shark-infested waters.

  • c u n d gulag on November 30, 2012 9:59 AM:

    OY!

    "Blanche DuGraham!"

    "EDIT" - PLEEZE!!!

  • CharlieM on November 30, 2012 10:00 AM:

    Yeah, well, even crazy people occasionally take their meds. Rand sounds like he found the bottle. Doubt if he'll keep taking 'em without adult supervision.

  • martin on November 30, 2012 10:01 AM:

    Isn't Crazy Bastards the Republican base?

  • Josef K on November 30, 2012 10:04 AM:

    As I happens, I’m with Paul on the merits, but in general find it pretty amusing whenever Republican senators debate other people’s sanity.

    Seconded on both counts. Personally I wouldn't weep a tear if Herr Paul would fall of the face of the planet (or into one of these multiple 'black sites' we've got running across the planet), but then I have a huge problem with his entire governing philosophy. And I have to wonder if Graham has the slightest idea how many of the his Tea Party supporters could legitimately be scooped up and tossed into Gitmo these days?

    These two idiots have at least done us the service of bringing the issue back up to the media, if nothing else. Heck, we might even see Camp X-Ray closed sometime in the next 4 years.

  • paul on November 30, 2012 10:04 AM:

    When Rand Paul is telling you you're too far to the right, you should probably listen.

    I'm trying to think of what might be the equivalent on the other side of the spectrum, but we don't have any senators from the CPUSA, much less other senators who would draw charges from them of being dangerously leftwing.

  • Matt on November 30, 2012 11:16 AM:

    And Paul objected that a “crazy bastard” standard for denying people due process sent the Constitution down a pretty slipper[y] slope.

    Well, hey, I'm no fan of Rand Paul, but you can't go calling out a guy's dad right in front of him and not expect him to push back.

  • schtick on November 30, 2012 12:22 PM:

    This from the party of right-wing-religious-hypocrite-nuts. I'm not surprised. Like two little kids jumping in a sandbox and each accusing the other of kicking out a grain of sand.
    I'm with Ron Byers. Their fear is that someone will find out the truth about how bad and how wrong Gitmo was. Too bad the dems feel so guilty about going along with all this crap as it happened or they would have had a "committee" or two to "investigate" what was happening as it happened like the teapubs have been doing for the past few years.
    Fast and furious anyone? Benghazi anyone?

  • cwolf on November 30, 2012 12:33 PM:

    @ martin on November 30, 2012 10:01 AM:...
    Isn't Crazy Bastards the Republican base?

    Close, it's actually "Crazy Basetards"