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November 14, 2012 11:07 AM Mandate From Seniors?

By Ed Kilgore

The highly selective nonsense surrounding various claims that “the American people” provided a “mandate” on November 6 for this or that just reached a new peak of absurdity: the idea that seniors just love Paul Ryan’s thinking about “entitlement reform.” In a post urging House Republicans to dump John Boehner for Paul Ryan, Erick Erickson of RedState seems to be making that case:

Paul Ryan managed to get through a brutal Presidential campaign with higher favorables than the incumbent Vice President, saw senior citizens actually gravitate to him instead of runaway from him and his proposals, and Paul Ryan is actually speaking up defending conservative values, ideals, and principles while John Boehner is trying to muddy them and compromise them away.

We’re going to hear the bit about seniors a lot between now and whenever Ryan decides to run for president. Never mind that white seniors have been trending very, very hard Republican since 2006, regardless of who it is they are being asked to vote for. Never mind that Ryan spent much of his relatively brief time on the 2012 campaign trail demagoguing “Obama’s Medicare cuts.” And never mind that almost no one actually votes for presidential candidates based on anything a running-mate says or does. It’s now been proved seniors are prepared to march on Washington demanding entitlement reform. Takes away some of the sting of defeat, eh?

Ed Kilgore is a contributing writer to the Washington Monthly. He is managing editor for The Democratic Strategist and a senior fellow at the Progressive Policy Institute. Find him on Twitter: @ed_kilgore.


  • stormskies on November 14, 2012 11:22 AM:

    These creeps, Repiglican creeps, simply live in a fictional universe that never ends. Even now they must manufacture unending delusions to have any sense of meaning or purpose in their stupid lives.

    Just watch Fox fiction 24/7.

    It is truly something to behold. And the sad fact is that this is about half of our population. Thank god that will progressively change and the demographic already underway, and the reason Obama won, only accelerate.

  • Bo on November 14, 2012 11:24 AM:

    Yeppers. I have been expressing my concern about just this very thing here. It's the "Trump-ization" of the GOPer/TeaFolk Party. They are going to take a page out of his beauty pageant playbook -- Doogie lost the beauty contest so let's give him the "consolation prize".

    Maybe they should go all the way and suggest to Doogie that he legally change his last name to "Ryanmirez" so that he can attract more Latino supporters.

    Today's GOP -- all hat; no cattle.

  • Peter C on November 14, 2012 11:29 AM:

    The Republicans always claim a mandate based more upon the extreme-ness of their positions than on the size of the actual vote result. They view the fact that ANYONE would vote for them when they occupy the farthest right position as proof that the farthest right position is correct.

  • c u n d gulag on November 14, 2012 11:47 AM:

    Jyazoos H. Keerist, playing Yiddisha Football, saying, "Ok, Judas, after you send me downfield, hit me on a pattern that'll look like a cross! That'll payoff BIG!!!"

    The FOX watching geezers would put Hannibal Lecter in charge of SS and Medicare - if only he'd promise to eat the dark meat only!

  • T2 on November 14, 2012 11:53 AM:

    "demagoguing" isn't the word I'd use. Lying is more to the fact. Ryan, who had the same 700 billion Medicare cut as Obama proposed basically lied about that the entire campaign....he could not tell the truth about this own plan to voucherize Medicare because Seniors have drubbed it in any poll. To come out an say Seniors like his plan is just another example of the State of Delusion Ryan and his fellow GOPers live in. If they continue that delusion until 2016, they will lose badly.

  • Crusty the Ex-Clown on November 14, 2012 12:46 PM:

    This white senior will never vote for a Republican again. And I'm annoyed that we don't have two serious political parties to choose from, instead of one party (D) which tries to make things work in spite of the repeated attempts of sabotage by the other (R) party. I used to vote for the best candidate, but these days it's not worth the trouble to winnow out the scant R germ from the over-abundant chaff of Tea Partiers, homophobes, misogynists, racists, wingnuts and troglodytes. I am forced by logic to vote against magic underwear and magic tax cuts and all the rest of the fantasies proffered by the dreary, sad residue of what was once a genuine party.

  • buddy66 on November 14, 2012 4:00 PM:

    I am a white male senior who is one of Obama's 47%. And I, too, want entitlement reform: I want a fair COLA boost on my SS retirement checks from a fund that I paid into for 40 years; I want a raise on my VA service-connected disability checks that factors age into the original disabling condition; and I want Medicare for everyone.

    Yes, I voted for Obama. And I want stuff.

  • zandru on November 14, 2012 4:05 PM:

    Well, the old folks who voted for Romney/cheered for Ryan are probably that minority of "greedy geezers" - happy to let their children and grandchildren continue to pay for THEIR Social Security and Medicare benefits, while getting none when the children/grandchildren are old enough.

    This plays right into the well-established "angry elderly white man" demographic. They're already dying out; let's not make any more of 'em.

    "zisions necessary" Yeah.

  • Doug on November 14, 2012 7:46 PM:

    The difference between Rep/Dem support by seniors was, I believe, something like 56/44, That is NOT insurmountable a difference. Nor is it unknown that many Republican voters vote "Republican" when to do so is clearly NOT in their interest.
    I believe the phrase is "Stupid is as stupid does", is it not?