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December 27, 2012 1:32 PM “Plenty of Guns At My Home School”

By Ed Kilgore

No, I won’t write about every stupid and blasphemous utterance by a Christian Right figure made in response to the Newtown massacre. But some really stand out, including this one noted by Frank Schaeffer (who knows his Christian Right as well as anyone around) at Alternet, attributed to Pastor Sam Morris of the Old Paths Baptist Church of Fayetteville, Tennessee:

Why do you still send your kids to the governmental schools?…What’s behind this shooting that we saw on Dec. 14 in Newtown, Connecticut and the other one’s like it? What’s going on. Well, number one, deception… I got news for you, when you kicked God out of schools, you’re going to be judged for that….They think homeschoolers are a bunch of crazies, man. But I’m going to tell you something, I’ve never seen a police officer or a metal detector at a home school. Never. Amen. Now, there’s plenty of guns at my home school. Amen. I guarantee you we’re not going to have a mass shooting at any of the schools that are represented in this building today. I guarantee you, if there is a shooting, it won’t last very long. Amen. I guarantee you there’s at least six or seven guns in this place right now. Amen.

Now a lot of liberals would read this and chalk it up to “Christianity” or supernaturalism generally. But I tend to identify with Schaeffer’s specifically Christian reaction:

Who hates Jesus? It isn’t the so-called new atheists like Richard Dawkins. It’s the Christian leaders bent on taking Christianity down with them into their private hell of stupidity. With friends like these Jesus needs no enemies.
Ed Kilgore is a contributing writer to the Washington Monthly. He is managing editor for The Democratic Strategist and a senior fellow at the Progressive Policy Institute. Find him on Twitter: @ed_kilgore.


  • RMcD on December 27, 2012 1:48 PM:

    Um, wasn't Adam Lanza largely home-schooled by his mom, the first victim? In their home? Which had lots of guns? Somehow I don't think a metal detector would have helped Nancy Lanza.

  • boatboy_srq on December 27, 2012 2:08 PM:

    From the "sermon," I can't tell whether Morris is praying to the Father, Son and Holy Ghost - or merely to Smith & Wesson.

    Schaeffer, as always, nails these a##hats.

  • low-tech cyclist on December 27, 2012 2:38 PM:

    Is it just me, or have the leaders of the 'Christian' Right taken a strange turn lately?

    I used to be able to think, 'well, they are reading their Bibles rather selectively, but you can see how they get there from the Bible,' but more and more lately, I hear Pat Robertson, Franklin Graham, etc. say things that make you wonder if they've actually bothered to read anything from the Gospels in the past several years.

    Any connection between what they advocate and anything Jesus or Paul preached that found its way into the pages of the New Testament seems to have been completely ruptured. They used to just be modern-day Pharisees, but now they're much further from the faith than that, based on the things they've been saying lately.

  • pfc on December 27, 2012 2:39 PM:

    For Jesus said, "If someone strikes you on the cheek, turn to him the other one also, so you can better site down the barrel of your gun before you blow the m*ther-f*cker to hell."

  • c u n d gulag on December 27, 2012 2:42 PM:

    I can practically guarantee you, that among the many dead children in this country every year, there were more than a few who were home-schooled by the same parent who blew them away with a gun, whether it was by accident, or on purpose.

    There are plenty of parents with mental issues, who, before killing themselves, kill their spouse and children, to protect them from the wicked ways of the world at large.
    'Better they die by my pure Christian hand and go to Heaven, than be polluted, and their souls doomed to Hell, by the ways of the wicked and impure in this world. Amen.'

  • boatboy_srq on December 27, 2012 2:53 PM:

    [M]ore and more lately, I hear Pat Robertson, Franklin Graham, etc. say things that make you wonder if they've actually bothered to read anything from the Gospels in the past several years.

    Exodus, Leviticus, Deuteronomy, and Kings appear to be the FundiEvangelical bread and butter these days. One wonders why they bother calling themselves Xtian in the first place, since the only New Testament writer they seem to have any awareness of whatsoever is Paul - and then only when he tells women where their place in society is because Shut Up.

  • Josef K on December 27, 2012 2:55 PM:

    Morris lays out a fairly convincing case, actually. By that I mean he's likely correct that any mass shooting at his "home school" will indeed be very brief, if only because he or one of the students will end up detonating the arsenal themselves.

    One can but hope Morris is more responsible with his weapons than with his sermons.

  • Rick B on December 27, 2012 4:52 PM:

    Ed, your second quote really shows where Schaeffer is coming from.

    Schaeffer has no problem with the average religious person. His problem is with the hierarchy of the accepted Christian church. That's because Schaeffer is a heretic against Christianity and the leaders of true Christian churches know it.

  • boatboy_srq on December 27, 2012 5:30 PM:

    @Rick B:

    Which accepted Christian church would that be? WBC? Without Walls? The various (and quite disunited) AoG congregations? Have you actually sat down and reviewed their philosophical underpinnings, their interpretation of Scripture, their liturgy? Schaeffer isn't condemning Christian sects in some blanket manner - he's calling out the fundie wingnuts for what they are: the Unclean, malministering to the Gullible. You'll notice that most of his targets are in sects that don't even have a hierarchy to speak of - unless you suggest that Dobson or Robertson is the fundie equivalent of the Pope.

    You'll also notice he doesn't say a whole lot about mainstream Protestantism (outside the SBC, if that can still be deemed "mainstream"), or Orthodoxy. And while more can be said recently about the RCs (thanks a heap, Pope Nazinger) than in many years, he pretty much leaves them alone too. Those are the keepers of this "hierarchy of the accepted Christian church" - the denominations who have organized, whose structure is time-tested, and whose reach has been greatest - not these TV-preacher snake-oil salesmen that Schaeffer denounces so succinctly and righteously. Not that there aren't flaws amongst those groups either - just that they're demonstrably less wholly in the grip of Mammon.