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January 15, 2013 1:28 PM Solution Is Obvious

By Ed Kilgore

Tying together several themes of the day, here’s what Ann Coulter had to say on Sean Hannity’s show about gun violence in America:

“On the gun crimes, we keep hearing how low they are in Europe, and oh, they’re so low, and they have no guns,” Coulter told Fox’s Sean Hannity. “If you compare white populations, we have the same murder rate as Belgium.”

Coulter didn’t have to draw a picture of her ideas for a “solution” to the problem.

If I didn’t really like the Belgians, I’d suggest that she get herself over there permanently right away. It might be a socialist hell in her eyes, but it would be one where she’d not only be secure, but would not be allowed within 100 yards of a camera.

Ed Kilgore is a contributing writer to the Washington Monthly. He is managing editor for The Democratic Strategist and a senior fellow at the Progressive Policy Institute. Find him on Twitter: @ed_kilgore.


  • FriscoSF on January 15, 2013 1:33 PM:

    Apparently, it's a Final Solution

    No need to keep revisiting once it's implemented

  • BillFromPA on January 15, 2013 1:39 PM:

    The GOP racists, I know, that's redundant, don't even try to hide it anymore, do they?

  • Ron Byers on January 15, 2013 1:41 PM:

    That might be the single most racist comment I have heard from a public figure in several years. Amazing.

  • FairbanksRick on January 15, 2013 1:43 PM:

    Someone should fact-check Coulter's claim.

  • c u n d gulag on January 15, 2013 1:52 PM:

    The poor dear...

    She's trying SOOOOOOO hard to stay relevant.

    And, she isn't getting any younger...

    So, what's a poor aging racist shrew to do, but go on FOX, and spew some of her patented racist poo-poo?

    Hopefully, her 15 minutes of fame's about up.
    Sadly, it's been more like 15 years.

    'Never Mind the Singing, Just Shut-up!!!'

  • DRF on January 15, 2013 1:53 PM:

    FairbanksRick is absolutely right; someone should fact-check her claim. Coulter has an extensive history of misrepresenting facts.

    Does the U.S. even have statistics which break gun murders down by race? Does Belgium? And is she talking about victims or perpetrators?

    Let's suppose for a moment that there are statistics bearing out Coulter's point that gun murders are higher in the non-white communities here (as a percentage of population)? What about "mass" murders? What about murders of family members? What would happen if you separated out from non-white murders all of the gang-related killings?

    You can play with statistics all day, but I'm not sure what point is being made? Is Coulter suggesting that guns aren't a problem that this country needs to solve because most of the murders take place in the black community? It's too bad (but predictable) that Hannity didn't press her to state her conclusion explicitly.

  • jjm on January 15, 2013 2:05 PM:

    So then, what's wrong with limiting the guns people of color have access to if they are the instruments of death for those in that community just like those of whites?

    Oh-- I guess that what she's saying is to take the guns away from the non-whites, but keep them in the hands of the whites so they can protect themselves from the non-whites who, under her ideas, would no longer have guns.

    Or does she meant that would non-whites should still be allowed to have them like whites, allowing the whites to escalate their demand for guns?

    How about nominating her as the most illogical thinker ever in support of gun manufacturers?

  • Peter C on January 15, 2013 2:16 PM:

    What a horrible harpy. She soils all who associate with her. With Hannity, however, it is hard to tell.

  • meady on January 15, 2013 2:19 PM:

    Oh the lengths they will go to continue the notion of white priviledge. How far a leap would it be to say that if a white person shoots someone, it's "legitimate", not even a crime. That woman is vile.

  • anonymous on January 15, 2013 2:33 PM:

    Has she looked at the gun violence in Asian countries? Or are Asians honorary whites? Why do I even ask? A while back you had a thread about why non-whites do not vote for republicans. Well here is your answer right there. Every single day, some republican politician or personality will say something to offend the non-white citizens of this country. I am an Asian. My children associate the word republican with racists. The most offensive thing you can say to them if they make a ridiculous argument, or say something racist is "are you a republican, or are you arguing like a republican". Maybe I am an anomaly and other non-whites do not perceive republicans this way. But if they do, then this party is finished as far as non-whites are concerned.

  • Roy Earle on January 15, 2013 2:40 PM:

  • Josef K on January 15, 2013 2:57 PM:

    What is it with this woman? And Michele Malkin, come to that? And Mary Maitlan? And pretty much any other woman who claims membership in the GOP?

  • Daniel on January 15, 2013 2:59 PM:

    Even if she is right, who cares? We have gun violence that impacts a significant portion of our population. Even if it's higher in the black population it's still America's gun violence. Is she arguing that because it's higher in the black population it somehow doesn't count?

  • Josef K on January 15, 2013 3:02 PM:

    From Roy Earle at 2:40 PM:

    What if she's correct?


    "Correct" about what? That whites are comparatively less likely to be killed by gunfire than any other ethnicity, or the implication that all other ethnicities except whites are murderous sociopths?

    Specify, please.

  • Peter C on January 15, 2013 3:12 PM:

    “If you compare white populations, ... you're a racist ... and possibly a fascist." just sayin'.

  • arkie on January 15, 2013 3:17 PM:

    As usual, Coulter is wrong.

    US murder rate for whites is 3.7/100,000. Belgium's overall rate is 1.7/100,000.



  • grand resume on January 15, 2013 3:19 PM:

    Such lovely, wonderful and creative ideas! Doesn’t the wonder of this season just shine.

  • SRW on January 15, 2013 3:21 PM:

    Ann Coulter (I am sure all will be shocked by this) has her facts wrong.

    In 2010, according to the UN Office on Drugs and Crime, the intentional homicide rated in the United States was 4.8 per 100,000 versus 1.7 in Belgium. (http://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/data-and-analysis/homicide.html

  • OBE on January 15, 2013 3:24 PM:

    @Roy Earle Really? Do, you think the link you posted is potential proof of Coulters point? Funny because I took her point to be that white crime rates are low by virtue of their whiteness. And lets not mention the legal killings classified as self protection and sanctioned by a number of States using the "Stand your ground" laws or the killings by law enforcement. If the victims of that are black, it's immediately a black crime statistic regardless of what race pulls the trigger. I'd like to see a statistic on which race kills the most people with guns. Something tells me, just a gut feeling, white wouldn't stand up so well...

  • Anonymous on January 15, 2013 4:18 PM:

    c u n d gulag on January 15, 2013 1:52 PM:

    The poor dear...

    She's trying SOOOOOOO hard to stay relevant.

    And, she isn't getting any younger...

    when was ann coulter EVER relevant?

  • mudwall jackson on January 15, 2013 4:27 PM:

    maybe i'm missing something but weren't most of the victims of both aurora and newtown white? and weren't both gunmen white? not to the mention the gunman in tucson and the shooter who killed the firemen in new york?

  • Lucia on January 15, 2013 4:31 PM:

    Why why why does anyone pay attention to this woman?

  • punaise on January 15, 2013 5:59 PM:

    One minor aspect of my work involves entering peoples' homes and spending several hours taking detailed measurements for architectural base plans. Yesterday we measured up a new job in a predominantly white enclave of Oakland, CA. I couldn't help noticing that the normal and pleasant seeming client's bedside reading included an Ann Coulter book. I can only hope he was conducting opposition research...

  • Mimikatz on January 15, 2013 6:05 PM:

    There is more (probably gang-related) black on black and brown on brown gun violence than white on white per capita, but nearly all mass murderers are white with mostly white victims. The bigger cities and urban cores have lots of gun murders, but the mass shootings are all farther suburbs, exurbs and small cities. So what's the point? People are more likely to be killed by family, friends and neighbors. And that is much more prevalent than mass shootings or even stranger shootings.

  • Federal Offense on January 15, 2013 8:28 PM:

    Not enough appearances on Fox's Red Eye hate fest for self promoter Coultergeist, thus she has to spout and fleece and scam somewhere to cling to her own thoughts of relevance.

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