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May 12, 2013 5:39 PM Will shooting in New Orleans have consequences in DC?

By Samuel Knight

Another day, another shooting; this one in New Orleans.

Here’s part of the report from the AP:

Gunmen opened fire as dozens of people marched in a Mother’s Day second-line parade in New Orleans on Sunday, wounding at least 12 people, police said.
Police Superintendent Ronal Serpas told reporters that a 10-year-old girl grazed by a bullet was among those wounded in the shooting around 2 p.m. She was in good condition. He said three or four people were in surgery but their conditions weren’t known. No deaths were reported.

Depressingly, this might not be that noteworthy, as far as stories about gun violence in America are concerned. Americans are shot all the time in otherwise peaceful settings. But people, it seems, are acutely sensitive to such stories again in the wake of the Senate’s failure to pass Newtown-inspired gun control.

Arizona Sen. Jeff Flake is from a state that hosted a high profile shooting incident, and he took a tumble in the polls after voting against the Manchin-Toomey amendment on expanded background checks (John McCain voted for the amendment).

If the same happens to David Vitter - he voted against Toomey-Manchin, too; Mary Landrieu voted in the affirmative - it could suggest that the gun control lobby is starting to turn the tide.

Samuel Knight is a freelance journalist living in DC and a former intern at the Washington Monthly.


  • c u n d gulag on May 12, 2013 5:57 PM:

    When this madness ever be allowed to end?

  • charlie don't surf on May 12, 2013 6:11 PM:

    Nope, this is not a news story. It's so commonplace, people expect it. From the NOLA.com story:

    "Me and mom were going to the second line. I told her I didn't want to go because there are always shots at a second line," Tyler said. "And the second I heard shots, I heard shots fired, we ran outside and one man fell in my lap who had been shot."

    This is a public event where people ALWAYS bring guns and shoot them.


  • jjm on May 12, 2013 6:48 PM:

    It must be because of how vocal "mom" groups have been against gun violence. Are they now being targeted by impotent-without-gun-gun-nuts?

  • Anonymous on May 12, 2013 7:40 PM:

    Shit no. The fuckers at the NRA are disciples of Moloch. They are willing to sacrifice other people's children as sacrifice to Moloch. Moloch is a jealous god, and she needs the sacrifice of multiple children monthly to appease her savage appetite. To the NRA, there is no problem with collateral damage.

    I myself have a simple prayer: May all victims of gun violence be the children, parents, spouses and persons who are NRA members. They love guns? Fine. Let them suffer the consequences. I am tired of others being damaged by the NRA bloodlust.

  • DJ on May 12, 2013 9:00 PM:

  • bob h on May 13, 2013 7:12 AM:

    I had assumed the gun creeps would top Newtown by assaulting a nursery school next. But it turned out to be a Mother's Day parade.

  • Milt on May 13, 2013 7:39 AM:

    It is now the next morning and I find it most interesting how little coverage there is in the major newspapers. Have the powers decided such shootings are detracting interest from other more important stories or the public has little interest since there were not multiple killings or is it just that it did not take place on the east coast?

  • JR on May 13, 2013 9:21 AM:

    Are you kidding? A suspect was reported to have dark skin, so it will be dismissed as a gang-banger incident - all the more reason for Anerica to amass firearms. If it turns out to be white guys, they'll be called nut jobs, and not a threat.

  • smartalek on May 13, 2013 9:24 AM:

    "Will shooting in New Orleans have consequences in DC?"


  • smartalek on May 13, 2013 9:58 AM:

    Oh, I'm sorry -- was elaboration expected?
    I'da thought it was self-evident, but just in case any of the expected influx of wingers trolls shows up (likely, w/ this subject matter), and has the ability to read and process info (unlikely, hut hope abides, miracles do happen, etc):
    First, the impact on popping numbers for the troglodytes in the Senate is utterly irrelevant. First, we're too far from an election. By the time of the next one, this memory will have faded.
    Second, the gun issue is too far down the priority list for most of the voters on our side, but is at the top of the list for most of the antis. And because all the gun-nuts vote Publican anyway, they'll vote as they always do. But a significant number of people who'd be moderate on this issue are also people who normally vote Publican. Are they goodjg to abandon that stance to punish a pol with whom they generally agree on MoŽt other issues? Not a chance.
    Third, Hizzoner Mayor Bloomberg's bux notwithstanding, the big money has historically gone with the NRA, and I'd bet it still will. And that money matters -- the better-financed candidate wins, what, over 90% of the time, IIRC.
    Fourth and most important: the ethnicities, class, and location of, and the outcomes for, the people involved. The news reports I've heard / read so far say nothing, but it being New Orleans, it's a fair bet that many, probably most, of the dramatis personae are not white, and not upper-middle-class or higher. And nobody has died (thank Whoever). If the voting populace isn't going to be exercised by the deaths of over a score of mediaworthy little kids in suburban Connecticut (highest per-cap avg income of all 50 states, I do believe), they sure as hell aren't going to motivate for the non-deaths or two or three kids from N'awlins. Hell, does that city even still exist, post-Katrina?
    I've said this before, and everyone here knows it: meaningful action on gun violence will happen when, and only when, it meaningfully affects the family/ies of any major Publican pol[s] and/or donor[s].
    Needless to say, this does NOT mean I'm hoping for such, let alone suggesting anything. I am not a Publican sicko, and no social advance is worth the unwilling sacrifice of any innocents. But that is the way it is.

  • POed Lib on May 13, 2013 10:11 AM:

    I had not seen the Moloch piece by Garry Wills. It is very good, but not quite strong enough. He omits one important thing - guns change the way you think, and create the Moloch worshipper out of the agnostic.

  • Anonymous on May 13, 2013 10:13 AM:

    There was a poll (Gallup, I think) related to Vietter and Landrieu. This also showed that voters in LA favor expanded background checks by 72-20%

    Mary Landriey (D)
    current favorability 49-41
    previous rating 47-45
    Change +6
    More likely to vote for - less likely 45-25

    David Vitter (R) - no data on change in favorability
    More likely to vote for - less likely 25-41

  • Milt on May 13, 2013 11:08 AM:

    Right you are. The Chicago Tribune says, "The FBI attributed the incident to "street violence," not terrorism".

  • David Martin on May 13, 2013 4:44 PM:

    There was recently a somewhat similar incident several miles from my house. Around 500 people were outdoors in a largely-black and largely low-income neighborhood. Shooting broke out, some 50 spent cartridges were found, 5 people hit.

    The incident is getting lots of attention from the sheriff's department, but I doubt that it affected the local consensus that Florida needs looser gun laws, not stricter ones.

    Had five people been shot in a better part of town, reactions might have been somewhat different.